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Reply #225 - May 25^th, 2023 at 2:01pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 1:55pm:

Aquascoot said "... in Trump's case, ... he just wants to be noticed ..."

US justice systems have noticed Donald Trump, but he doesn't seem to like that.

Lol

No, he certainly doesn't like it.

So much so that he's written a letter to Merrick Garland alleging that he's being treated unfairly, and begging the DOJ not to prosecute him.

Poor widdle diddums.

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Reply #226 - May 25^th, 2023 at 2:05pm

This article says Ukraine is winning?

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/24/europe/wagner-prigozhin-russia-manpower-ukrai...

Wagner chief warns Russians could revolt if invasion continues to struggle

By Rob Picheta and Mariya Knight, CNN
Published 2:37 PM EDT, Wed May 24, 2023

CNN —

A new “revolution” could rock Russia if its stuttering war effort in Ukraine continues, the chief of private military group Wagner has said, in a scathing assessment of Moscow’s military readiness that could further expose divisions in Russian President Vladimir Putin’s military hierarchy.

Yevgeny Prigozhin said in an interview with Konstantin Dolgov, a pro-Russian blogger, that Moscow’s troops are unprepared to resist forces loyal to Kyiv even when they enter Russian territory.

He also praised the capabilities of the Ukrainian army, and urged Moscow to escalate its war effort if it wants to avoid a long and costly conflict.

“I believe Ukrainians today are one of the strongest armies in the world,” Prigozhin said.

He called Kyiv’s forces “highly organized, highly trained and their intelligence is on the highest level, they can operate any military system with equal success, a Soviet or a NATO one.”

In recent days Moscow suffered embarrassment when a group of anti-Putin Russians entered the Belgorod region in an incursion that caused anger and confusion among Russia’s influential military analysts. Asked about the incident, Prigozhin said Russian defense forces are “absolutely not ready to resist them in any shape or form.”

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #227 - May 25^th, 2023 at 2:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 2:01pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 1:55pm:

Aquascoot said "... in Trump's case, ... he just wants to be noticed ..."

US justice systems have noticed Donald Trump, but he doesn't seem to like that.

Lol

No, he certainly doesn't like it.

So much so that he's written a letter to Merrick Garland alleging that he's being treated unfairly, and begging the DOJ not to prosecute him.

Poor widdle diddums.

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #228 - May 25^th, 2023 at 2:32pm

Bobby. wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 1:59pm:

This article says Ukraine is winning?

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/24/europe/wagner-prigozhin-russia-manpower-ukrai...

Wagner chief warns Russians could revolt if invasion continues to struggle

By Rob Picheta and Mariya Knight, CNN
Published 2:37 PM EDT, Wed May 24, 2023

CNN —

A new “revolution” could rock Russia if its stuttering war effort in Ukraine continues, the chief of private military group Wagner has said, in a scathing assessment of Moscow’s military readiness that could further expose divisions in Russian President Vladimir Putin’s military hierarchy.

Yevgeny Prigozhin said in an interview with Konstantin Dolgov, a pro-Russian blogger, that Moscow’s troops are unprepared to resist forces loyal to Kyiv even when they enter Russian territory.

He also praised the capabilities of the Ukrainian army, and urged Moscow to escalate its war effort if it wants to avoid a long and costly conflict.

“I believe Ukrainians today are one of the strongest armies in the world,” Prigozhin said. He called Kyiv’s forces “highly organized, highly trained and their intelligence is on the highest level, they can operate any military system with equal success, a Soviet or a NATO one.”

In recent days Moscow suffered embarrassment when a group of anti-Putin Russians entered the Belgorod region in an incursion that caused anger and confusion among Russia’s influential military analysts. Asked about the incident, Prigozhin said Russian defense forces are “absolutely not ready to resist them in any shape or form.”

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bobby

this is what i mean about "you cant trust the mainstream media"

maria knight churns out an article every 3 days about how wonderful ukraine is doing.

she is like goebels in berlin in 1945 churning out articles about how the russians are being slaughtered in the streets of berlin.

its just propaganda my friend

May 9, 2023 - Russia-Ukraine news

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https://edition.cnn.com › europe › live-news › russia-ukr...
Mariya Knight background cnn from edition.cnn.com
9 May 2023 — Ukraine shoots down more than a dozen cruise missiles over Kyiv, military says. From CNN's Mariya Knight.

May 8, 2023 - Russia-Ukraine news

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https://edition.cnn.com › europe › live-news › russia-ukr...
8 May 2023 — According to his biography on the movement website, he previously held government positions ... By Mariya Knight and Josh Pennington, CNN ...

May 9, 2023 - Russia-Ukraine news

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https://edition.cnn.com › europe › live-news › russia-ukr...
9 May 2023 — UN says no grain ships inspected for 2 days as Ukraine blames Russia for delays. From CNN's Richard Roth, Hande Atay, Mariya Knight and Jen ...

May 9, 2023 - Russia-Ukraine news

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9 May 2023 — A Ukrainian service member walks near residential buildings damaged by a Russian military strike in Bakhmut, Ukraine, on April 21.

May 8, 2023 - Russia-Ukraine news

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8 May 2023 — Ukrainian official claims Russian soldiers are trying to leave Zaporizhzhia disguised as civilians. From CNN's Mariya Knight and Kostan ...

April 30, 2023 Russia-Ukraine news

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https://edition.cnn.com › europe › live-news › russia-ukr...
Mariya Knight background cnn from edition.cnn.com
30 Apr 2023 — Russia replaces its top logistics commander as Ukrainian counteroffensive looms. From CNN's Mariya Knight and Tim Lister.

April 27, 2023 - Russia-Ukraine news

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https://edition.cnn.com › europe › live-news › russia-u...
Mariya Knight background cnn from edition.cnn.com
27 Apr 2023 — From CNN's Mariya Knight. Volodymyr Zelensky attends a news conference in Zhytomyr, Ukraine on April 24. (Andrew Kravchenko/AP).
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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #229 - May 25^th, 2023 at 2:41pm

Aqua,
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bobby

this is what i mean about "you cant trust the mainstream media"

maria knight churns out an article every 3 days about how wonderful ukraine is doing.

she is like goebels in berlin in 1945 churning out articles about how the russians are being slaughtered in the streets of berlin.

its just propaganda my friend

The first casualty of war is the truth.

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #230 - May 25^th, 2023 at 3:05pm

Bobby. wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 2:41pm:

Aqua,
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bobby

this is what i mean about "you cant trust the mainstream media"

maria knight churns out an article every 3 days about how wonderful ukraine is doing.

she is like goebels in berlin in 1945 churning out articles about how the russians are being slaughtered in the streets of berlin.

its just propaganda my friend

The first casualty of war is the truth.

even long after the war is over.

the mainstream media pushed the 'weapons of mass destruction " lie for a decade.

have they ever apologised.?

no Roll Eyes

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Reply #231 - May 25^th, 2023 at 5:59pm

aquascoot wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 11:20am:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 9:12am:

aquascoot wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 8:44am:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 7:59am:

Bobby. wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 7:01am:

freediver wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 6:59am:

Gotta better solution?

They want nukes.
Nukes for you, nukes for me, nukes will drop, then we'll be..... free, apparently... Shocked

I think there is some truth to that captain

The left live in this weird sort of destructive nihilistic frustrated unhappy vortex

You only have to look at the emotional state of those with trump derangement syndrome

They look like the sort of people who have no real purpose in living

And I think there is part of this psychology that craves an Armageddon

They probably should be careful what they wish for Tongue

The corporations that run these world events use it to keep humans focussed on dispair, while they change laws, implement new stratagies to make more profit at the cost of our freedom.

rockerfeller made a speech back in the late 80s early 90s thanking the media and its constituents for their desgression in allowing he, and his constituents to implement world changing practices.
rockerfeller did not have our best interests at heart, his only concern was profit and total control in making more profit.
If people were awake to this back then, we would have risen up and fought back.
Now we just keep getting our freedoms demolished.

Humans are addicted to being controlled.
Most obey without hesitation, and do not ask questions.
In fact, those that ask questions are silenced and labelled. It's the CIA playbook.

MK Ultra is alive and well.
Just watch who bites. They're sufferers and cannot see the truth because of their underlying fear.
The same people believe laws are for honest people, when in fact, laws protect criminals.

That post is worth studying for at least 5 years

Unfortunately thanks to addiction to mind-numbing social media
Thanks to addiction.to processed food which destroys critical thinking
Thanks to addiction.to the mainstream media who parrot a narrative of polarisation anxiety and depression
Thanks to big pharma who require you to be sick so they can farm you

There is really very little chance your average chode will understand

It's simpler for the average chode to just hand over his freedom to an authority figure
He is not so much enslaved as he voluntarily enters the prison cell and lock the door behind him
Valuing only safety and mediocrity

What's really worth studying is how people in prosperous, peaceful and democratic countries can fall for kleptocratic Dear Leaders in authoritarian regimes. No civil liberties, no democratic rights or free speech, and now, no integration with the outside world, nothing. No foreign financial transfers or easy foreign travel. No Google, no Maccas, you can't even buy from Ebay. Cannon fodder.

That you would give up what you have for this is worth a PhD thesis at least. But do you know?

You wouldn't. As ever, you're spitballing.

Ever get the feeling you've been spotted?

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Reply #232 - May 25^th, 2023 at 6:07pm

aquascoot wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 3:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 2:41pm:

Aqua,
Quote:

bobby

this is what i mean about "you cant trust the mainstream media"

maria knight churns out an article every 3 days about how wonderful ukraine is doing.

she is like goebels in berlin in 1945 churning out articles about how the russians are being slaughtered in the streets of berlin.

its just propaganda my friend

The first casualty of war is the truth.

even long after the war is over.

the mainstream media pushed the 'weapons of mass destruction " lie for a decade.

have they ever apologised.?

no Roll Eyes

Fox probably didn't. CNN, BBC, the Washington Post all did. Here's the New York Times in one of a hundred apology editorials from the mainstream media:

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/26/world/from-the-editors-the-times-and-iraq.htm...

Has Pravda and Sputnik ever apologised for Vlad?

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #233 - May 25^th, 2023 at 6:55pm

Bobby. wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 2:41pm:

Aqua,
Quote:

bobby

this is what i mean about "you cant trust the mainstream media"

maria knight churns out an article every 3 days about how wonderful ukraine is doing.

she is like goebels in berlin in 1945 churning out articles about how the russians are being slaughtered in the streets of berlin.

its just propaganda my friend

The first casualty of war is the truth.

Didn't you once tell me that it is a journalist's job to repeat what they read online, and it is everyone else's job to figure out whether it is true?

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16038 Gender:	Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly. Reply #234 - May 25^th, 2023 at 7:08pm So what really went on at the G7? Zelensky's entourage either won't look at Macron or they're staring him down. And check out Macron's expression as he shakes hands with Zelensky at the end. Did Zelensky's comment irritate Macron?
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Reply #236 - May 25^th, 2023 at 7:39pm

aquascoot wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 3:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 2:41pm:

Aqua,
Quote:

bobby

this is what i mean about "you cant trust the mainstream media"

maria knight churns out an article every 3 days about how wonderful ukraine is doing.

she is like goebels in berlin in 1945 churning out articles about how the russians are being slaughtered in the streets of berlin.

its just propaganda my friend

The first casualty of war is the truth.

even long after the war is over.

the mainstream media pushed the 'weapons of mass destruction " lie for a decade.

have they ever apologised.?

no Roll Eyes

The media says what the Deep State tells them to say.

Drain the swamp.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 112899 Melbourne Gender:	Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly. Reply #237 - May 25^th, 2023 at 11:50pm Excellent 2 hour 20 minute doco on the Battle of Britain. It reminds me of Ukraine where they defend even though they are outnumbered.
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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #238 - May 26^th, 2023 at 12:24am

Bobby. wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 7:39pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 3:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 2:41pm:

Aqua,
Quote:

bobby

this is what i mean about "you cant trust the mainstream media"

maria knight churns out an article every 3 days about how wonderful ukraine is doing.

she is like goebels in berlin in 1945 churning out articles about how the russians are being slaughtered in the streets of berlin.

its just propaganda my friend

The first casualty of war is the truth.

even long after the war is over.

the mainstream media pushed the 'weapons of mass destruction " lie for a decade.

have they ever apologised.?

no Roll Eyes

The media says what the Deep State tells them to say.

Drain the swamp.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/135/025/279/original/eb3621...

Bobby keeps virtue signalling you, Aquascoot.

Do you want to give him a kiss?

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #239 - May 26^th, 2023 at 5:39am

freediver wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 6:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 25^th, 2023 at 2:41pm:

Aqua,
Quote:

bobby

this is what i mean about "you cant trust the mainstream media"

maria knight churns out an article every 3 days about how wonderful ukraine is doing.

she is like goebels in berlin in 1945 churning out articles about how the russians are being slaughtered in the streets of berlin.

its just propaganda my friend

The first casualty of war is the truth.

Didn't you once tell me that it is a journalist's job to repeat what they read online,
and it is everyone else's job to figure out whether it is true?

I think I did.
I mostly link the readers here to quality websites such as the BBC and CNN.
I take no responsibility if those sites are wrong -
which sometimes they are - but it's very rare.

I am a messenger and also a martyr for the truth online.

namaste

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