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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #120 - May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:53am

JC Denton wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:50am:

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2023 at 5:32pm:

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it's clearly the better managed country with a better quality of life

Even Nazi Germany looked OK for a while.

the second biggest party in the russian state duma is the communist party of the russian federation, that's a pretty bizarre chararcteristic for a 'fascist state' to have. people just throw around words without even knowing what they mean . meanwhile all communist iconography/political organisations in ukraine have been banned for years, and neo-nazi affiliated groups are loosely or formally integrated into the military and other institutions

the russian federation is the poorest analogy to nazi germany a person could possibly draw

Hitler was a nationalist expansionist. Russian leaders, left or right, are all nationalist expansionists, except Yeltsin, who was too drunk and corrupt to care.

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Reply #121 - May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:58am

JC Denton wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:53am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:50am:

JC Denton wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:48am:

don't try to talk to this guy

he's just a boomer logic "next coming of hitler" goon

he is quite frankly, really stupid

Mr Negotiation, eh.

How'd that work out for Chamberlain?

hitler wrote everything he wanted to do in mein kampf idiot

Putin has railed against the west and publicly mourned the fall of the Soviet Union as 'the great catastrophe', almost exactly as Hitler did regarding Germany, WW1 and the Treaty of Versailles, you idiot.

He was elevated by Yeltsin because of his effective management of protecting corrupt politicians he was subordinate to.

Read something of Putin's biography.

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #122 - May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:59am

nup it's way more complicated than that

there's nothing indicating russia has any desire to engage in full-fledged war with nato, it appears to be more the other way around

ukraine represents a specific and important psychological place in the region to russians, same as how america would react if china was establishing bases in the western hemisphere (but there's far more to it than that; specifically the ethnic civil war between russians and ukrainians in the donbass)

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Reply #123 - May 22^nd, 2023 at 11:00am

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:58am:

JC Denton wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:53am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:50am:

JC Denton wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:48am:

don't try to talk to this guy

he's just a boomer logic "next coming of hitler" goon

he is quite frankly, really stupid

Mr Negotiation, eh.

How'd that work out for Chamberlain?

hitler wrote everything he wanted to do in mein kampf idiot

Putin has railed against the west and publicly mourned the fall of the Soviet Union as 'the great catastrophe', almost exactly as Hitler did regarding Germany, WW1 and the Treaty of Versailles, you idiot.

He was elevated by Yeltsin because of his effective management of protecting corrupt politicians he was subordinate to.

Read something of Putin's biography.

putin has mixed opinions on the fall of the soviet union

hence why he has said "anyone who does not miss the soviet union has no heart, anyone who wants it back has no brain"

i don't think you're smart enough to understand that quote though

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #125 - May 22^nd, 2023 at 11:02am

JC Denton wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:59am:

nup it's way more complicated than that

there's nothing indicating russia has any desire to engage in full-fledged war with nato, it appears to be more the other way around

The Poles, Finns, Baltics and all those non-Russians who border Russia disagree with you.

Pretending you know what the sentiment is in Eastern Europe better than Eastern Europeans, is typical of someone who, prior to 2022, couldn't have pointed to Ukraine on a map.

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #126 - May 22^nd, 2023 at 11:03am

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The Poles, Finns, Baltics and all those non-Russians who border Russia disagree with you.

because they're hysterical nut jobs with a muti-century hate hard on

they don't call it the butthurt belt for no reason

when can we expect your enrollment in the ukrainian foreign legion chicken hawk

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #128 - May 22^nd, 2023 at 11:06am

JC Denton wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 11:00am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:58am:

JC Denton wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:53am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:50am:

JC Denton wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 10:48am:

don't try to talk to this guy

he's just a boomer logic "next coming of hitler" goon

he is quite frankly, really stupid

Mr Negotiation, eh.

How'd that work out for Chamberlain?

hitler wrote everything he wanted to do in mein kampf idiot

Putin has railed against the west and publicly mourned the fall of the Soviet Union as 'the great catastrophe', almost exactly as Hitler did regarding Germany, WW1 and the Treaty of Versailles, you idiot.

He was elevated by Yeltsin because of his effective management of protecting corrupt politicians he was subordinate to.

Read something of Putin's biography.

putin has mixed opinions on the fall of the soviet union

hence why he has said "anyone who does not miss the soviet union has no heart, anyone who wants it back has no brain"

i don't think you're smart enough to understand that quote though

Putin resents the demise of Russian hegemony in Eastern Europe. He does not resent the demise of Soviet communism.

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #129 - May 22^nd, 2023 at 11:08am

JC Denton wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 11:03am:

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The Poles, Finns, Baltics and all those non-Russians who border Russia disagree with you.

because they're hysterical nut jobs with a muti-century hate hard on

they don't call it the butthurt belt for no reason

when can we expect your enrollment in the ukrainian foreign legion chicken hawk

All hysterical nutjobs, eh.

Have you ever left your home town?

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly. Reply #130 - May 22^nd, 2023 at 12:12pm Meister, you are wasting your time on fools. Their arguments are relativist, just as the liberals are about Islamic atrocities, while their actual beliefs are a childish admiration for the straight-face Russian tough guy poses which they translate into strength of character.
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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #131 - May 22^nd, 2023 at 12:23pm

issuevoter wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 12:12pm:

Meister, you are wasting your time on fools. Their arguments are relativist, just as the liberals are about Islamic atrocities, while their actual beliefs are a childish admiration for the straight-face Russian tough guy poses which they translate into strength of character.

whats fascinating is it was always the right (people like regan) who whipped up anti russian sentiment and the left (people like bernie sanders) who defended russia , even going there for his honeymoon in bernies case.

now because of some false propaganda by hilary that donald and vlad were mates, we have the left apoplectic with rage against vlad and the right calling for biden to stop sending military aid.

very bizarre .

but the fact remains, putin will prevail in the ukraine.

he simply had too many artillery shells and a much bigger population and the west is only sending the ukranians their ordnance which has a use by date , so they can cash up on resupply.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 112994 Melbourne Gender:	Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly. Reply #132 - May 22^nd, 2023 at 3:52pm
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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly. Reply #133 - May 22^nd, 2023 at 4:41pm Bobby. wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 3:52pm: [url]https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/138/442/109/orig inal/aa4e9599dfed4852.jpg[/url] That's pretty good, Bobby. Only difference, they wanted to kill us. That is if you insist on including me in "we."
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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #134 - May 22^nd, 2023 at 4:50pm

issuevoter wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 4:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 3:52pm:

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That's pretty good, Bobby. Only difference, they wanted to kill us. That is if you insist on including me in "we."

But the Yanks have armed a lot of naughty boys. Embarrassed

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