"Lab-grown meat could be 25 times worse for the climate than beef"

"Analysis finds the carbon footprint of cultivated meat is likely to be higher than beef if current production methods are scaled up because they are still highly energy-intensive

Cultivated meat is made by growing muscle tissue from stem cells

Meat produced from cultured cells could be 25 times worse for the climate than regular beef unless scientists find ways to overhaul energy-intensive steps in its production.

Lab-grown or “cultivated” meat is made by growing animal stem cells around a scaffold in a nutrient-rich broth. It has been proposed as a kinder and greener alternative to traditional meat because it uses less land, feed, water and antibiotics than animal farming and removes the need to farm and slaughter livestock..."

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2372229-lab-grown-meat-could-be-25-times-wo...

Sounds like poor people food.

Gimme a nice steak.   

greggerypeccary wrote on May 13^th, 2023 at 6:05pm:



These days I prefer mushroom sauce.   

Jasin wrote on May 13^th, 2023 at 6:31pm:


Lead by example.

Vegans should just be happy us omnivores eat meat. We are feasting on the animals that eat vegan's food.

It's a new technology. It has  way to go.

Anything that serves to prevent animal suffering is worth investigating in my opinion. I'm highly suspicious of anyone who sys otherwise.

Not to mention we are looking at very real possible global food shortages n the not too distant future.

Maybe you'd prefer crickets?

Jasin wrote on May 13^th, 2023 at 6:31pm:


Well, as poverty is reduced and women become more educated, population growth rates fall....

They'll feed this crap and other 'fabricated' foods to the poor.
While the rich will feed off the real stuff.

I do not eat much meat anymore.

Yesterday, I bought lamb chops and a lamb backstrap. Usually I buy a smallish porterhouse or TBone and that is my meat for the week bar some prosciutto or pancetta or salami.

Good for my wallet, good for my health as are my walks with the dog. Socks, being a 30Kg beast requires L O O O N G walks. Plenty Vit D.

My dinner tonight—the other half of the potato–spinach–egg–cheese casserole I made last night.

I have jars full of dried beans, split peas and puy and red lentils. Might make Boston baked beans some time and would like another go at the TexMex bean chili.

Another dog meet Saturday. Wish I could bring something warm from home—all they supply is a snag on white bread  will see if I can buy a thermos.

Jovial Monk wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 9:59am:



You are not banned -
that expired on the 17th May 2023.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1612043899

thegreatdivide wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 12:55pm:


A pressure cooker solves that hour long thing. I dont like using the pressure cooker for beans because getting the water ratio is hard but i do if i dont have a lot of time to make a meal. Also i soak ALL the beans even lentils because of my digestive problems but if im in a hurry ill use beans or lentils that dont need to be soaked overnight just for a few hours (like red lentils or toor dahl).

Spot

thegreatdivide wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 12:55pm:



Actually - I've had some vegetarian sausages that were super yummy.
The good ones were expensive though - more than meat sausages.
I think they were made with chickpeas?


https://www.pegshomecooking.com/chickpea-sausages-recipe/

Hi Spot - they look nice too.

I think everyone should try vegan sausages.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 11:59am:


They would have to be healthier than meat sausages.

That's coming from someone who, unfortunately, eats way too much processed meat.

When I'm in Europe that's pretty much all my relatives feed me 

thegreatdivide wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 11:59am:



You'd hope that vegetables would be more healthy.
Yes - maybe they could put too much salt in it?

thegreatdivide wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 1:10pm:



"It's Time to End the War on Salt

The zealous drive by politicians to limit our salt intake has little basis in science"

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt/
"For decades the notion that an excessive consumption of salt (NaCl) leads to hypertension has persisted. However, this idea is based on opinion, not scientific proof. Despite this, every health organization, agency, and clinicians around the world have been advising salt restriction, especially to hypertensive patients. The present review article suggests that the consumption of a high-salt diet is not the cause of hypertension and that there are other factors, such as added sugars, which are causative for inducing hypertension and cardiovascular disease."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28373112/

lee wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 2:16pm:


I think you may be right, despite gp's pricless cartoon...though processed foods are loaded with both  sugar and salt for the preservative value.

I've always suspected it's the food that's usually highly salted that is the cause snd not the actual salt.

Jovial Monk wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 8:54am:


To overcome the hassle of the overnight soak and the one hour of cooking—cook a heap and fill into jars and preserve in a pressure canner. Be doing that when the days are too cold/wet to be outside.

Recipe: https://www.healthycanning.com/canning-kidney-beans

Works for cannellini beans too and I dare say haricot beans.


Calculate the quantity for 250ml jars—nice quantity for salads. Use some litre jars for bulk recipes, etc.

I only used salt as an example. Myself i have always had low BP so doctors occasionally tell me to eat MORE salt. Theres all kinds of "vegan" additives in processed vegan foods same as other additives in other food. Its all processed. That being said i do like those apple sausages for a treat now and then.

Spot