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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #570 - Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:33am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:15am:

sounds like covid is here to stay and is going to continue to take out those with poor health

Yes, Covid IS here to stay.

Mainly thanks to our useless governments who eventually gave up trying to contain it and putting the economy ahead of peoples' health and lives.

Plus Covid isn't just killing and disabling the elderly and those in poor health... and you know it.

And even if it was, that STILL doesn't make it OK.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #571 - Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:40am

Carl D wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:33am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:15am:

sounds like covid is here to stay and is going to continue to take out those with poor health

Yes, Covid IS here to stay.

Mainly thanks to our useless governments who eventually gave up trying to contain it and putting the economy ahead of peoples' health and lives.

Plus Covid isn't just killing and disabling the elderly and those in poor health... and you know it.

And even if it was, that STILL doesn't make it OK.

how on earth could governments EVER contain it ?

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #572 - Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:57am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:40am:

how on earth could governments EVER contain it ?

Our governments (especially the WA State government) managed to contain Covid for nearly 2 years. And the flu.

Which really wasn't too difficult seeing as Australia is an island and all our government needed to do was stop these viruses coming in from overseas and escaping into the population.

Testing, masks and quarantine made that happen.

But the tourism industry, big business (crying out for more and more overseas workers), universities (crying out for more and more overseas students) and the airlines (especially Qantas and that evil little recently resigned leprechaun who was running it) and others made sure that our governments caved in and allowed Covid to run rampant, first by opening the borders followed by removing all of the protections I've mentioned above which has now caused over 23,000 Australian deaths so far.

“Some people may die, but it will be way smaller than with the flu".

I bet Carla Jayne wishes she'd never said that... but, not to worry... almost everyone has forgotten it by now.

If I ever had to travel to the Eastern States (God forbid) I would rather drive instead of paying Qantas or Virgin to fly me there.

(Why do I have to keep repeating all this over and over?) Roll Eyes

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #573 - Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 6:31pm

I'm sure this is all just perfectly fine - not.

Australian weekly COVID-19 overview 22nd December 2023 - dbRaevn

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deaths reported this week from the States that are still reporting (nothing from NSW or Queensland again, of course. Imagine how high the death total would be if those 2 States were still providing numbers).

Cases are also going up, even with the pitifully small number of PCR only tests being reported. Hospitalisations are also going up for most States.

Yes, all perfectly normal for this to be happening in the middle of the Australian summer, isn't it?

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 49717 Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #574 - Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 4:58am Why are SA and Tasmania so high?
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 53070 Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #575 - Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 5:14am Covid will get Monk.
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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5481 Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #576 - Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 11:34am and yet we're not in lockdown anymore even if we had the level of deaths we have now in 2020 we would be. why? almost like the whole thing was driven by novelty and overreaction or something
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #577 - Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 1:28pm

JC Denton wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 11:34am:

and yet we're not in lockdown anymore even if we had the level of deaths we have now in 2020 we would be. why?

almost like the whole thing was driven by novelty and overreaction or something Shocked

1. The economy.

2. The 'cookers' who will undoubtedly go on a nationwide rampage if the government dare mention the word "lockdown". Or "masks".

The protests in Victoria during their lockdowns and mask mandates were proof of that.

I'm still not sure which one the government is more afraid of - big business (the economy) or the 'ccokers'?

Probably an equal amount of both.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 112336 Melbourne Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #578 - Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 1:31pm The numbers here are different: https://covidlive.com.au/ 56 deaths this week for all of Australia.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #579 - Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 2:03pm

Covid Live isn't very reliable anymore, Bobby.

Hasn't been for a while now since our governments starting making Covid numbers difficult to find, or they've stopped reporting them altogether. Or maybe once a month.

While I'm here - this is a perfect example of the stupidity we have to deal with these days:

Mystery illness surging through Britain after Christmas parties as Covid cases skyrocket

Yeah, it's a real "mystery", isn't it? Roll Eyes

ABC again... Anything But Covid.

https://nitter.net/PrognosticChats/status/1738218044852236300#m

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Mystery. Solved by the end of the sentence.

Yep.

And i can almost guarantee the majority of the population wouldn't be able to solve the "mystery" after reading that. Same goes for here in Australia.

Which is just what our pollies and business want.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 144855 Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #580 - Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 2:29pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2023 at 1:31pm: The numbers here are different: https://covidlive.com.au/ 56 deaths this week for all of Australia. Total Confirmed Deaths, Bobby. There are many, many more but they aren't confirmed/reported any more.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #581 - Dec 29^th, 2023 at 11:15pm

Wow, what's happening in Victoria?

Bobby, you live in Victoria, don't you?

53
deaths reported for Victoria this week, nothing from the other States or Territories (except Tasmania which claims to have 0 deaths this week).

Victoria has been having about 50 Covid deaths a week now for at least the past month or two. Wouldn't be surprised if New South Wales, Queensland and South Australia had similar numbers but their numbers are now being 'hidden'.

Western Australia also probably added a few more deaths this week but they're all undoubtedly on an extended Christmas/New Year holiday at the WA Department of "Health".

Australian weekly COVID-19 overview 29th December 2023 - dbRaevn

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So far there has been no state data released for WA or ACT (and NSW, QLD and NT do not normally report state data).

SA released state data but it did not contain hospitalised or ICU numbers.

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Many states had very limited case reporting; nothing should be read into case trends this week.

VIC: Missing 6 days of data
WA: Missing weekly data
ACT: Missing ~5 days of data
NT: Missing 4 days of data

The states that did report were further impacted by reduced testing.

It's a wonder we get any data at all nowadays.

Nothing about the continuing disgrace of Covid deaths in Aged Care again this week which would no doubt make part time Federal Minister for Aged Care (and full time Minister for Sport) Anika Wells happy (even though the deaths are continuing of course).

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #582 - Jan 8^th, 2024 at 9:24am

In case anyone missed it (as I'm sure the majority of Australians have).

Another 23
deaths in Aged Care reported last week.

https://nitter.net/dbRaevn/status/1743779848341074272#m

More savings on pensions and health costs by the government. They must be so proud of themselves... they'll balance that budget eventually no matter how many deaths it takes.

All while maintaining their total silence regarding everything Covid related (no doubt due to legal advice).

Disgraceful.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #583 - Jan 8^th, 2024 at 11:47am

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2024 at 9:24am:

In case anyone missed it (as I'm sure the majority of Australians have).

Another 23
deaths in Aged Care reported last week.

https://nitter.net/dbRaevn/status/1743779848341074272#m

More savings on pensions and health costs by the government. They must be so proud of themselves... they'll balance that budget eventually no matter how many deaths it takes.

All while maintaining their total silence regarding everything Covid related (no doubt due to legal advice).

Disgraceful.

All the data is freely available

https://www.health.gov.au/topics/covid-19/reporting

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #584 - Jan 9^th, 2024 at 8:16am

Thanks Sprint.

But most of the information in that link is a month or more out of date.

With JN.1 ripping through the population it will be interesting to see what the latest numbers are - assuming we ever get to see them of course.

As for the links to the individual States at the bottom of the link they're even more out of date or irrelevant, especially WA where their last media release (on December 20th) is about "being food safe this summer." Roll Eyes

Nothing whatsoever about Covid.

If you follow the ACT link you'll find this: Changes to ACT Government COVID-19 testing and reporting activities

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Like other jurisdictions, the ACT continues to transition the management of COVID-19 to be consistent with other notifiable diseases such as influenza.

Yes, of course. Just like the rest of the States have done. Except that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is nothing like influenza, never has been and probably never will be. And they all know it.

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