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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #480 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:31am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 9:09am:

The covid vaccines are effective. Without them the death toll would have approached that of the Black Death

As a new virus it mutates a lot and the mutations are pretty bad for our health.

It is not the vaccines, it is the antiscience movement that arose out of the antivax movement whioch happened pre-covid.

The antivax movement was already thriving—thousands of children in wealthy countries now die of measles, whooping cough etc, the so-called “harmless childhood diseases!” There is no science in the antivax movement, just look at the nonsense you, Nails and Booby have been spreading.

Anti science, anti commonsense bullshit artists the lot of you! Contemptible nobodies looking for attention.

Incorrect the vaccines are not effective
Firstly there are plenty of people who have had four or five vaccines who have then contracted covid
There is no way that would be acceptable for a tetanus whooping cough measles mumps or rebella vaccine

Secondly assuming Bobby is under 65 the current advice from the Australian vaccine website is that vaccines only recommended for those over 65
So the science
And surely there is no authority higher than ATAGI
Have stopped recommending boosters

How can you say the vaccine is effective when the head scientists do not recommend it to the vast majority of the population
And the vast majority of the population continue to catch covid

We are just lucky that it is a mild respiratory virus

The vaccines have markedly underperformed

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #481 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:34am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:40am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:36am:

So, you don’t wear a mask nor have up to date vaccinations then visit shopping centres and eat in the food courts there. Are you really surprised you got two doses of covid19?

With the filthy pigs that are around I'm not surprised -
they cough and sneeze everywhere and don't even bother to wear a mask
or cover their nose when they expel viruses into the air -
when they show obvious signs of infection.

Unfortunately, that's what happens when our governments dismantle Public Health and replace it with something called Personal Responsibility (a.k.a. "You Do You").

I've been saying that for a long time.

And, I've also been saying this for a long time - I don't know how the Federal government keeps getting away with ignoring this (which Australia is a signatory to):

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Specifically Article 12 Section 2 (c). And probably (b) and (d) as well.

As well as the States ignoring their own individual Health Acts.

Last I heard (which was a while ago) some lawyers were supposed to be looking into this.

But, in the meantime, "ignorance is bliss" as far as the majority of the population is concerned... I bet 99% of them wouldn't know anything about the above Covenant or even their own State's Health Acts.

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10096 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #482 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:36am aquascoot wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:31am: We are just lucky that it is a mild respiratory virus And we're just unlucky that you're still an idiot.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #483 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:55am

Up For Carl.

I for one appreciate your efforts ok?

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:04am:

Carl D wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:44am:

As I said last week, Covid Live has now become unreliable for getting the latest Covid case and deaths numbers so I go to Denis here:

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1710246419574272406#m

Quote:

🇦🇺Australia's weekly reported COVID numbers: 6 October 2023

🔸Deaths: 64 (+14)
🔸Cases: 4,668 (-887)

🔹NSW: 1,541 / 9
🔹VIC: 875 / 36
🔹WA: 660 / 5
🔹SA: 645 / NR
🔹QLD: 504 / 14
🔹TAS: 275 / 0
🔹ACT: 168 / 0
🔹NT: Updated fortnightly

NR = Not Reported

64
deaths last week (and that's with no death numbers from South Australia and the NT. Queensland is, as usual, using a 'rolling average' (i.e. it's a best guess).

Covid Live is showing only 21 deaths so I won't bother using them as a source from now on.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Whoever runs it has probably just about given up which doesn't surprise me with our State and Federal governments' ongoing gradual push to hide the numbers and make Covid 'magically' disappear. Especially with Christmas coming up.

Carl a big thank you for being so faithful in keeping this topic up to date.

The numbers are politically controlled because there are other agendas. Where does that leave us?

I think we need to do our own due diligence and take no chances by minimising all risks where possible.

And it’s not just for Covid19 ...virtually every bloody virus known to man is coming back in some mutated form and our medications/vaccines can’t keep up. We can’t ignore this fact anymore.

We MUST focus on building up immunity by eating/drinking immunity building healthy food/beverages.

I use bleach/disinfectant etc to sterilise our surfaces/floors and door handles etc.

I wash our towels/tea/towels/clothes thoroughly after single use. I wash all used cutlery and crockery twice and rinse in boiling water.

Ok so I spend a lot of money on dishwashing liquid/washing liquid/powder and bleach/disinfectant...but it’s helping me to stay and feel safe given I’m totally unvaccinated. And as I’ve never tested positive for Covid19 ... it’s working.

Note : We NEVER use public transport only our private cars AND I particularly always wear a mask (or throw a scarf 🧣 around my neck which I place up over my mouth 👄 ) if/when I’m out and about.

As we all lead different lives ... what works for me/my household may not work for you/your household.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #484 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:02pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:31am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 9:09am:

The covid vaccines are effective. Without them the death toll would have approached that of the Black Death

As a new virus it mutates a lot and the mutations are pretty bad for our health.

It is not the vaccines, it is the antiscience movement that arose out of the antivax movement whioch happened pre-covid.

The antivax movement was already thriving—thousands of children in wealthy countries now die of measles, whooping cough etc, the so-called “harmless childhood diseases!” There is no science in the antivax movement, just look at the nonsense you, Nails and Booby have been spreading.

Anti science, anti commonsense bullshit artists the lot of you! Contemptible nobodies looking for attention.

Incorrect the vaccines are not effective
Firstly there are plenty of people who have had four or five vaccines who have then contracted covid
There is no way that would be acceptable for a tetanus whooping cough measles mumps or rebella vaccine

Secondly assuming Bobby is under 65 the current advice from the Australian vaccine website is that vaccines only recommended for those over 65
So the science
And surely there is no authority higher than ATAGI
Have stopped recommending boosters

How can you say the vaccine is effective when the head scientists do not recommend it to the vast majority of the population
And the vast majority of the population continue to catch covid

We are just lucky that it is a mild respiratory virus

The vaccines have markedly underperformed

No they worked well.

For the flu you need a yearly vaxx—is the flu virus ineffective or does it just mutate too much?

Covid will eventually, 10-20 years time, be a once yearly vaxx as well.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #485 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:05pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:40am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:36am:

So, you don’t wear a mask nor have up to date vaccinations then visit shopping centres and eat in the food courts there. Are you really surprised you got two doses of covid19?

With the filthy pigs that are around I'm not surprised -
they cough and sneeze everywhere and don't even bother to wear a mask
or cover their nose when they expel viruses into the air -
when they show obvious signs of infection.

Unfortunately, that's what happens when our governments dismantle Public Health and replace it with something called Personal Responsibility (a.k.a. "You Do You").

I've been saying that for a long time.

And, I've also been saying this for a long time - I don't know how the Federal government keeps getting away with ignoring this (which Australia is a signatory to):

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Specifically Article 12 Section 2 (c). And probably (b) and (d) as well.

As well as the States ignoring their own individual Health Acts.

Last I heard (which was a while ago) some lawyers were supposed to be looking into this.

But, in the meantime, "ignorance is bliss" as far as the majority of the population is concerned... I bet 99% of them wouldn't know anything about the above Covenant or even their own State's Health Acts.

Not one shopping center has any security guards to enforce rules
of public hygiene to kick people out who have obvious signs of respiratory infection.
One time at the local center there was a fat woman sitting
on the chairs near the main entrance coughing and sneezing every 10 to 20 seconds
without using any tissues - straight into the air -
and she was still there doing it 30 minutes later.
A security guard close by did nothing about it.
Everyone walking into that center walked through a cloud of aerosol snot
full of bacteria and viruses.
IQs are very low in Melbourne.
I think about 30% of people here are morons.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 49688 Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #486 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:12pm Well, you are a moron for visiting those places in the middle of the day. Really—what the hell did you expect? Did you think the epidemic was over? Don’t blame others, the “pigs” are not in your control. YOUR behavior is in your control, work on that.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #487 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:24pm

BTW, if you use bodywash or handwash they will kill all viruses and bacteria PROVIDED they contain

Sodium Laureth Sulfate.

At the moment I am using soap—an anticoronavirus decision I made. The little handbasin in the toot gets lots of soapscum, think I will clean it again then use handwash containing SLS.

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Reply #488 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:29pm

I got through 3 years of a covid pandemic in Australia without being infected with covid. 11 million cases of covid have been detected in Australia. I would presume that many of those cases are reinfections. So, perhaps 1 in 4 Australians have had covid. Living well away from infection areas, such as cities, you are less likely to experience the first case of covid, never mind the other reinfections.

This disease is such a non-issue this year that I am surprised that the topic has lasted more than 6 months.

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Reply #489 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:30pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:29pm:

I got through 3 years of a covid pandemic in Australia without being infected with covid. 11 million cases of covid have been detected in Australia. I would presume that many of those cases are reinfections. So, perhaps 1 in 4 Australians have had covid. Living well away from infection areas, such as cities, you are less likely to experience the first case of covid, never mind the other reinfections.

This disease is such a non-issue this year that I am surprised that the topic has lasted more than 6 months.

Melbourne is full of Covid right now.
It's like a place full of diseased rats.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 49688 Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #490 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:01pm So move out of Melbourne.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 112315 Melbourne Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #491 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:04pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:01pm: So move out of Melbourne. Maybe I should move close to Hobart in the country?
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #492 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:33pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:31am:

We are just lucky that it is a mild respiratory virus

Here you go... all that you need to know.

Debunking COVID-19 myths and misinformation

This is from Canada but it also applies to Australia and just about everywhere else in the world these days.

I'm sure you'll completely ignore it (or not even bother reading any of it) as usual but at least I'm still trying.

You're welcome.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 49688 Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #493 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:50pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:04pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:01pm: So move out of Melbourne. Maybe I should move close to Hobart in the country? You are too poofy for Hobart, according to your own words. What about a town in the Yarra Valley?
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #494 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:50pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:33pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:31am:

We are just lucky that it is a mild respiratory virus

Here you go... all that you need to know.

Debunking COVID-19 myths and misinformation

This is from Canada but it also applies to Australia and just about everywhere else in the world these days.

I'm sure you'll completely ignore it (or not even bother reading any of it) as usual but at least I'm still trying.

You're welcome.

Good find, Carl, will have a read of that tonight.

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Get the vaxx! 💉💉

If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings.

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