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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #465 - Oct 7th, 2023 at 5:40am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7th, 2023 at 5:36am:
So, you don’t wear a mask nor have up to date vaccinations then visit shopping centres and eat in the food courts there. Are you really surprised you got two doses of covid19?



With the filthy pigs that are around I'm not surprised -
they cough and sneeze everywhere and don't even bother to wear a mask
or cover their nose when they expel viruses into the air -
when they show obvious signs of infection.
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Reply #466 - Oct 7th, 2023 at 5:51am
 
But you go into those pits of filth all the time. Your own fault you got covid.
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Reply #467 - Oct 7th, 2023 at 5:56am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7th, 2023 at 5:51am:
But you go into those pits of filth all the time. Your own fault you got covid.



Well - how else can I do my shopping?
Those pigs are everywhere.

The last time I got the flu was over 4 years ago -
that was from taking the train from Geelong to Melbourne and back.
I was crook for over 2 weeks.
You can't open the windows for fresh air and arseholes were
coughing and sneezing the whole way there and back.
The train is a germ factory.
I wonder how often they wash the air filters?
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Reply #468 - Oct 7th, 2023 at 6:01am
 
Go to a butcher shop or bulk butcher for your meat. Go to a greengrocer for your meat and veg.

Visit supermarkets early in the morning when not many people are there.

Use the sanitiser or bring your own—lots of sanitiser stations do not have sanitiser in them these days.

Wash hands after returning home.

Wear a mask when shopping/in groups of people.

Don’t eat in food courts FFS!
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Reply #469 - Oct 7th, 2023 at 6:04am
 
You didn’t keep your vaccinations up to date—the virus mutates! You don’t wear a mask. You eat in food courts. You visit big shopping centres in the middle of the day and you wonder how you got covid???

LastNail has really brainwashed you, hasn’t he?
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Reply #470 - Oct 7th, 2023 at 6:07am
 
Why not move to a nice country town? That by itself will likely redice your risk of covid.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #471 - Oct 7th, 2023 at 8:32am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7th, 2023 at 6:04am:
You didn’t keep your vaccinations up to date—the virus mutates! You don’t wear a mask. You eat in food courts. You visit big shopping centres in the middle of the day and you wonder how you got covid???

LastNail has really brainwashed you, hasn’t he?


Not just Sir Nail (although he did play a large part, I'm sure).

The following link looks into how the majority of the population have being 'brainwashed' into believing SARS-CoV-2 is just a cold.

Public Health Messaging Missteps Fuel Vaccine Disinformation

(this is about the US but it also applies to Australia and most Western countries)

Quote:
Throughout the Covid-19 pandemic, not only has there been an abundance of misinformation posted on social media about vaccines; public health officials and others have committed plenty of missteps in messaging.

A veritable flood of misinformation—often in the guise of unfounded conspiracy theories—coupled with poor communication from public health authorities contributed to the U.S. having worse Covid-19 outcomes than its peers. This is partly due to the fact that among people most at risk of severe disease—the over-65 age group, immunocompromised and those with other comorbid conditions—the U.S. trails other wealthy nations in Covid-19 vaccination rates.


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In their book, The Big Myth: How American Business Taught Us to Loathe Government and Love the Free Market, Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway suggest that many millions of Americans seemed to either “disbelieve what government officials were telling them about Covid-19 or to regard public health measures such as vaccines and mask mandates as encroachments on their liberty.”

Oreskes and Conway claim that 40% of Covid-19 deaths could have been prevented if Americans trusted science and government more.


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In parts of America, an inherently libertarian streak averse to government mandates of virtually any kind appears to have played a role in opposing nonpharmaceutical interventions, such as masks and social distancing, as well as Covid-19 vaccine requirements.

What’s disturbing is that the Covid-19 pandemic seems to have also brought out the vaccine skeptics in full force, not only toward coronavirus vaccines but also traditional childhood immunizations, like those targeting polio, tetanus and measles.

From smallpox inoculations—which began in the late 18th century and ended when the disease was eradicated in the 1970s—to mumps, rubella, tetanus, diphtheria, polio and measles immunizations, vaccination has saved millions of lives and prevented crippling and life-threatening illnesses from occurring.


And, the 'peer pressure' to no longer wear a mask is getting greater and greater as time goes on. I found it interesting that the day after mask mandates in shops and other places were scrapped in WA last year many people were still wearing them but over the next few days the number dropped and dropped until only about 5% of people were wearing them. The number is now down to about 1% from what I see when I'm shopping.

Obviously many people were not aware that the mask mandates had been scrapped and continued to wear them the next day but word got around that masks were no longer mandated "you don't need to wear those anymore" (I even had a receptionist say that to my aunt and I at our GPs' office a couple of months after the mask mandates were scrapped).
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** Repeat Covid infections exercise our immune system in the same way that repeat concussions exercise our brain **
 
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #472 - Oct 7th, 2023 at 8:44am
 
As I said last week, Covid Live has now become unreliable for getting the latest Covid case and deaths numbers so I go to Denis here:

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1710246419574272406#m

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🇦🇺Australia's weekly reported COVID numbers: 6 October 2023

🔸Deaths: 64 (+14)
🔸Cases: 4,668 (-887)

🔹NSW: 1,541 / 9
🔹VIC: 875 / 36
🔹WA: 660 / 5
🔹SA: 645 / NR
🔹QLD: 504 / 14
🔹TAS: 275 / 0
🔹ACT: 168 / 0
🔹NT: Updated fortnightly

NR = Not Reported


64
deaths last week (and that's with no death numbers from South Australia and the NT. Queensland is, as usual, using a 'rolling average' (i.e. it's a best guess).

Covid Live is showing only 21 deaths so I won't bother using them as a source from now on.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Whoever runs it has probably just about given up which doesn't surprise me with our State and Federal governments' ongoing gradual push to hide the numbers and make Covid 'magically' disappear. Especially with Christmas coming up.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #473 - Oct 7th, 2023 at 8:49am
 
Carl, there is a growing antiscience movement that has morphed out of the antivaxx movement.

From my fine forum:

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Not just antivax tho that has helped build the movement. Antiscience with anti semitic feelings too the science of Einstein and Freud called “jewish science.”

The antivaxx movement has as its theme that vaccinations of children causes autism. Children are now dying of measles again in wealthy countries.




https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/vaccine-scientist-warns-antiscience-c...
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #474 - Oct 7th, 2023 at 8:57am
 
Carl D wrote on Oct 7th, 2023 at 8:32am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7th, 2023 at 6:04am:
You didn’t keep your vaccinations up to date—the virus mutates! You don’t wear a mask. You eat in food courts. You visit big shopping centres in the middle of the day and you wonder how you got covid???

LastNail has really brainwashed you, hasn’t he?


Not just Sir Nail (although he did play a large part, I'm sure).

The following link looks into how the majority of the population have being 'brainwashed' into believing SARS-CoV-2 is just a cold.

Public Health Messaging Missteps Fuel Vaccine Disinformation

(this is about the US but it also applies to Australia and most Western countries)

Quote:
Throughout the Covid-19 pandemic, not only has there been an abundance of misinformation posted on social media about vaccines; public health officials and others have committed plenty of missteps in messaging.

A veritable flood of misinformation—often in the guise of unfounded conspiracy theories—coupled with poor communication from public health authorities contributed to the U.S. having worse Covid-19 outcomes than its peers. This is partly due to the fact that among people most at risk of severe disease—the over-65 age group, immunocompromised and those with other comorbid conditions—the U.S. trails other wealthy nations in Covid-19 vaccination rates.


Quote:
In their book, The Big Myth: How American Business Taught Us to Loathe Government and Love the Free Market, Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway suggest that many millions of Americans seemed to either “disbelieve what government officials were telling them about Covid-19 or to regard public health measures such as vaccines and mask mandates as encroachments on their liberty.”

Oreskes and Conway claim that 40% of Covid-19 deaths could have been prevented if Americans trusted science and government more.


Quote:
In parts of America, an inherently libertarian streak averse to government mandates of virtually any kind appears to have played a role in opposing nonpharmaceutical interventions, such as masks and social distancing, as well as Covid-19 vaccine requirements.

What’s disturbing is that the Covid-19 pandemic seems to have also brought out the vaccine skeptics in full force, not only toward coronavirus vaccines but also traditional childhood immunizations, like those targeting polio, tetanus and measles.

From smallpox inoculations—which began in the late 18th century and ended when the disease was eradicated in the 1970s—to mumps, rubella, tetanus, diphtheria, polio and measles immunizations, vaccination has saved millions of lives and prevented crippling and life-threatening illnesses from occurring.


And, the 'peer pressure' to no longer wear a mask is getting greater and greater as time goes on. I found it interesting that the day after mask mandates in shops and other places were scrapped in WA last year many people were still wearing them but over the next few days the number dropped and dropped until only about 5% of people were wearing them. The number is now down to about 1% from what I see when I'm shopping.

Obviously many people were not aware that the mask mandates had been scrapped and continued to wear them the next day but word got around that masks were no longer mandated "you don't need to wear those anymore" (I even had a receptionist say that to my aunt and I at our GPs' office a couple of months after the mask mandates were scrapped).




This is going to be one of the unintended negative consequences of the covid vaccine

Polio tetanus measles mumps and rubella hepatitis b vaccines are extremely effective

You may need a booster after 20 years but basically they provide nearly 100% protection

By conflating these excellent vaccines with the ludicrously ineffective covid vaccines
A lot of the general public are likely to lose faith in the vaccination process itself

How can the covid vaccines even be called a vaccination when they do not prevent infection and they do not prevent transmission
What the authorities should do is admit they got it wrong
When they said this all ends when we get enough jabs in arms
They need to look the Australian public in the eye
And apologise for such an outrageous lie

They need to then throw all the covid vaccines in landfill
Actually they seem to be doing this with two billion being disposed of
But they need to separate this useless vaccine
From the other very effective vaccines

To not do so will cost lives
And not the lives of 90 year olds with dementia
It will cost the lives of infants and young children
Who any rational person realize are our most precious generation
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Reply #475 - Oct 7th, 2023 at 9:09am
 
The covid vaccines are effective. Without them the death toll would have approached that of the Black Death

As a new virus it mutates a lot and the mutations are pretty bad for our health.

It is not the vaccines, it is the antiscience movement that arose out of the antivax movement whioch happened pre-covid.

The antivax movement was already thriving—thousands of children in wealthy countries now die of measles, whooping cough etc, the so-called “harmless childhood diseases!” There is no science in the antivax movement, just look at the nonsense you, Nails and Booby have been spreading.

Anti science, anti commonsense bullshit artists the lot of you! Contemptible nobodies looking for attention.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #476 - Oct 7th, 2023 at 10:04am
 
Carl D wrote on Oct 7th, 2023 at 8:44am:
As I said last week, Covid Live has now become unreliable for getting the latest Covid case and deaths numbers so I go to Denis here:

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1710246419574272406#m

Quote:
🇦🇺Australia's weekly reported COVID numbers: 6 October 2023

🔸Deaths: 64 (+14)
🔸Cases: 4,668 (-887)

🔹NSW: 1,541 / 9
🔹VIC: 875 / 36
🔹WA: 660 / 5
🔹SA: 645 / NR
🔹QLD: 504 / 14
🔹TAS: 275 / 0
🔹ACT: 168 / 0
🔹NT: Updated fortnightly

NR = Not Reported


64
deaths last week (and that's with no death numbers from South Australia and the NT. Queensland is, as usual, using a 'rolling average' (i.e. it's a best guess).

Covid Live is showing only 21 deaths so I won't bother using them as a source from now on.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Whoever runs it has probably just about given up which doesn't surprise me with our State and Federal governments' ongoing gradual push to hide the numbers and make Covid 'magically' disappear. Especially with Christmas coming up.


Carl a big thank you for being so faithful in keeping this topic up to date.

The numbers are politically controlled because there are other agendas. Where does that leave us?

I think we need to do our own due diligence and take no chances by minimising all risks where possible.

And it’s not just for Covid19 ...virtually every bloody virus known to man is coming back in some mutated form and our medications/vaccines can’t keep up. We can’t ignore this fact anymore.

We MUST focus on building up immunity by eating/drinking immunity building healthy food/beverages.

I use bleach/disinfectant etc to sterilise our surfaces/floors and door handles etc.

I wash our towels/tea/towels/clothes thoroughly after single use. I wash all used cutlery and crockery twice and rinse in boiling water.

Ok so I spend a lot of money on dishwashing liquid/washing liquid/powder and bleach/disinfectant...but it’s helping me to stay and feel safe given I’m totally unvaccinated. And as I’ve never tested positive for Covid19 ... it’s working.

Note : We NEVER use public transport only our private cars AND I particularly always wear a mask (or throw a scarf 🧣 around my neck which I place up over my mouth 👄 ) if/when I’m out and about.

As we all lead different lives ... what works for me/my household may not work for you/your household.


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Reply #477 - Oct 7th, 2023 at 10:11am
 
LOL. What Larry would like to be the case.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #478 - Oct 7th, 2023 at 10:13am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 7th, 2023 at 10:04am:
Carl D wrote on Oct 7th, 2023 at 8:44am:
As I said last week, Covid Live has now become unreliable for getting the latest Covid case and deaths numbers so I go to Denis here:

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1710246419574272406#m

Quote:
🇦🇺Australia's weekly reported COVID numbers: 6 October 2023

🔸Deaths: 64 (+14)
🔸Cases: 4,668 (-887)

🔹NSW: 1,541 / 9
🔹VIC: 875 / 36
🔹WA: 660 / 5
🔹SA: 645 / NR
🔹QLD: 504 / 14
🔹TAS: 275 / 0
🔹ACT: 168 / 0
🔹NT: Updated fortnightly

NR = Not Reported


64
deaths last week (and that's with no death numbers from South Australia and the NT. Queensland is, as usual, using a 'rolling average' (i.e. it's a best guess).

Covid Live is showing only 21 deaths so I won't bother using them as a source from now on.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Whoever runs it has probably just about given up which doesn't surprise me with our State and Federal governments' ongoing gradual push to hide the numbers and make Covid 'magically' disappear. Especially with Christmas coming up.


Carl a big thank you for being so faithful in keeping this topic up to date.

The numbers are politically controlled because there are other agendas. Where does that leave us?

I think we need to do our own due diligence and take no chances by minimising all risks where possible.

And it’s not just for Covid19 ...virtually every bloody virus known to man is coming back in some mutated form and our medications/vaccines can’t keep up. We can’t ignore this fact anymore.

We MUST focus on building up immunity by eating/drinking immunity building healthy food/beverages.

I use bleach/disinfectant etc to sterilise our surfaces/floors and door handles etc.

I wash our towels/tea/towels/clothes thoroughly after single use. I wash all used cutlery and crockery twice and rinse in boiling water.

Ok so I spend a lot of money on dishwashing liquid/washing liquid/powder and bleach/disinfectant...but it’s helping me to stay and feel safe given I’m totally unvaccinated. And as I’ve never tested positive for Covid19 ... it’s working.

Note : We NEVER use public transport only our private cars AND I particularly always wear a mask (or throw a scarf 🧣 around my neck which I place up over my mouth 👄 ) if/when I’m out and about.

As we all lead different lives ... what works for me/my household may not work for you/your household.



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Reply #479 - Oct 7th, 2023 at 10:18am
 
For those wanting coronavirus–free dishes take comfort:

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A recent journal Food Microbiology study demonstrates that human coronaviruses remain stable for up to 21 days on glass surfaces. However, common dishwashing detergents and scrubbing devices were found to be sufficient to inactivate and eliminate these viruses from glass surfaces.


https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220410/Common-dishwashing-detergents-may-eli...

Seems lipids are one layer of the virus and adequate detergent and warm water removes that layer. Nice warm water helps. I boil some water, add it to the sink after cups, glasses and saucers are washed to tackle plates and cutlery and another lot of boiling water when I get to pans, frypans and implements used with them.

By the time I have done all that my back is screaming so I cover the dishes with a teatowel and go sit down.
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