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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #405 - Sep 27^th, 2023 at 10:02pm

Spoiler alert: Tim really isn't surprised, I'm sure.

https://nitter.net/LettersfromTim/status/1706993108381233559#m

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You might have thought this significant media release from @ABSStats would make tonight’s @abcnews bulletin

Not.A.Sausage.

You’re nothing if not consistent @ABCaustralia

And a MAJOR root causes behind these deaths

And tnis is aquascoot's "mild respiratory virus".

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10097 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #406 - Sep 27^th, 2023 at 11:15pm Any other predictions, Nostradamus? I'm surprised this d*ckhead wasn't appointed to head Albanese's upcoming sham of a Covid inquiry.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #407 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 6:19am

Hi there Carl

You are an isolated ignorance old pensioner

Dr cosworth is a PhD respiratory physician who has climbed to be in the esteemed position of chief health officer

When you lefty's scream believe the science

Which out of the two of you should we consider more scientifically qualified

All you are qualified to do is place a white flag in an envelope put on your mask take it to your local post office and mail it off to myself

I'll be glad to send it on to this heroic scientist and truth speaker

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #408 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 9:44am

"Dr." Nick (Covid isn't airborne) Coatsworth.

Another one who's been consistently wrong about everything they've said about Covid since the start of the pandemic, along with the likes of Collignon, Bennett, aquascoot's hero Dr. "why do I always look constipated?" Gerrard in Queensland and many more.

Here's another one of "Dr." Nick's Greatest Hits:

It’s time to remove all mask mandates for aged care workers

Feb 27, 2023

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In an interview with HelloCare, infectious disease expert and common-sense COVID-19 communicator, Dr Nick Coatsworth shared his thoughts on the prospect of removing the masks from aged care staff and letting everyone – both literally and figuratively – breathe a little easier.

“I think they should come off,” said Dr Coatsworth.

“I think they should only be used when you’re caring for a confirmed positive [case] or in a situation where your nursing home has got a significant outbreak.”

With current variants of COVID-19 now “intrinsically more mild” than earlier variants according to Dr Coatsworth, the negative impact on residents’ mental health brought about by mask-wearing should be weighted heavier than the physical ramifications of COVID-19.

"common-sense COVID-19 communicator, Dr Nick Coatsworth" Grin

And then...

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1706134617429070110#m

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COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 21 September 2023

🔹Active cases: 883 (+316)
🔹Active outbreaks: 123 (+20)
🔹Residents: 645 (+205)
🔹Staff: 238 (+111)
🔹Reported deaths in 2023: 1,104 (+7)

Oh, and... how's that shot at a political career going, "Dr." Nick?

(This might also explain his "Covid isn't anything to worry about" stance on the pandemic, wouldn't surprise me one bit).

But... just keep thinking about all of the money the government is saving on pensions and healthcare costs, eh?

Disgraceful stuff.

Before this Covid pandemic I (naively) never thought that a country like Australia could be run by such evil individuals like the ones we currently have running our governments and big business.

But, as I've said once or twice before - accountability is coming for them even though it may take a while.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #409 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 10:10am

They are accountable to

The young people of Australia who need to go to school
Young families who need to start small businesses
People who need to remain physically fit and attend gyms
Go to the beach unharrassed
People who need to travel to see loved ones
Our admirable sporting teams who need our support

Not everyone is a hypochondriac
And it would be a truly evil government that pandered to hypochondria

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #410 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 10:16am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 10:10am:

They are accountable to

The young people of Australia who need to go to school
Young families who need to start small businesses
People who need to remain physically fit and attend gyms
Go to the beach unharrassed
People who need to travel to see loved ones
Our admirable sporting teams who need our support

Not everyone is a hypochondriac
And it would be a truly evil government that pandered to hypochondria

These 'groups' are also being affected by Covid infections (especially repeated infections) even though most of them don't know it yet.

Not just the "oldies" and other vulnerable people.

And surely I don't need to say it again - politicians and big business CEO's are only accountable to themselves and the almighty dollar.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #411 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 10:27am

Dr. David Berger (a real medical doctor) hits the nail on the head, as always.

https://nitter.net/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1707156228877463929#m

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-27/abs-deaths-in-graphs-covid-heart-disease-...

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We've known this for well over a year, thanks to the work of @karencutter4 and colleagues. Why is it still being ignored? Why is this OK? Why are we still bothering to spend billions on road safety if it kills only a fraction of those who die from COVID?

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2/ The only way to understand this disconnect is to accept that the rules which ACTUALLY govern society are diametrically opposed to those we are TOLD govern society.

The reality: individual lives and well being do not matter to either side of politics.

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3/ The only thing that matters is that the overall health of the herd is sufficient for it to be satisfactorily farmed for short term profit.

And the shame of the present situation, the deathly shame, is that Public Health has allowed itself to be co-opted to this end

Bullseye!

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #412 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 10:51am

Carl D wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 10:16am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 10:10am:

They are accountable to

The young people of Australia who need to go to school
Young families who need to start small businesses
People who need to remain physically fit and attend gyms
Go to the beach unharrassed
People who need to travel to see loved ones
Our admirable sporting teams who need our support

Not everyone is a hypochondriac
And it would be a truly evil government that pandered to hypochondria

These 'groups' also being affected by Covid infections (especially repeated infections) even though most of them don't know it yet.

Not just the "oldies" and other vulnerable people.

And surely I don't need to say it again - politicians and big business CEO's are only accountable to themselves and the almighty dollar.

Look what I've just found.

Covid may have permanently damaged people's immunity

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Covid infections are putting people at higher risk of diabetes, strokes, heart disease and other long-term illnesses - but experts warn it may be decades before the full impact is known.

Meanwhile, could Covid-19 also be blamed for the increased frequency and severity of colds and flu? Has it damaged our ability to fight off infections?

Northland emergency doctor Gary Payinda said some viruses, which used to cause barely a sniffle in healthy adults, were now putting people in hospital.

"We're now seeing your typical regular healthy middle-aged person presenting to ED with bad cases of RSV. And that's pretty novel for us," Payinda said.

He suspected Covid may have damaged people's immunity in subtle ways that fell below the threshold to qualify as long Covid.

I expect aqua (and our pollies, of course) to completely ignore this.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #413 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 11:03am

Carl D wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 10:27am:

Dr. David Berger (a real medical doctor) hits the nail on the head, as always.

https://nitter.net/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1707156228877463929#m

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-27/abs-deaths-in-graphs-covid-heart-disease-...

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We've known this for well over a year, thanks to the work of @karencutter4 and colleagues. Why is it still being ignored? Why is this OK? Why are we still bothering to spend billions on road safety if it kills only a fraction of those who die from COVID?

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2/ The only way to understand this disconnect is to accept that the rules which ACTUALLY govern society are diametrically opposed to those we are TOLD govern society.

The reality: individual lives and well being do not matter to either side of politics.

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3/ The only thing that matters is that the overall health of the herd is sufficient for it to be satisfactorily farmed for short term profit.

And the shame of the present situation, the deathly shame, is that Public Health has allowed itself to be co-opted to this end

Bullseye!

Road trauma kills our most precious generation
Our young people
Our future

Of course it is more important than a mild respiratory virus

Get some perspective please

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #414 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 11:21am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 11:03am:

Road trauma kills our most precious generation
Our young people
Our future

Of course it is more important than a mild respiratory virus

Get some perspective please

How's this for some perspective?

If this is our "future" (and I strongly suspect it is, and not just in Alice Springs, Tennant Creek and other outback towns) then I'd glady take the past if I could.

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Reply #415 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 12:15pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 11:21am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 11:03am:

Road trauma kills our most precious generation
Our young people
Our future

Of course it is more important than a mild respiratory virus

Get some perspective please

How's this for some perspective?

If this is our "future" (and I strongly suspect it is, and not just in Alice Springs, Tennant Creek and other outback towns) then I'd glady take the past if I could.

kids in alice springs running amok?
thats rather racist of you carl.
brian will not be pleased

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #416 - Sep 28^th, 2023 at 1:21pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 12:15pm:

kids in alice springs running amok?
thats rather racist of you carl.
brian will not be pleased

Really?

I didn't write the story or take the pictures. I was using it to make a point (a point that you obviously missed, as usual).

Anyway... moving right along and back to here again...

https://nitter.net/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1707156228877463929#m

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We've known this for well over a year, thanks to the work of @karencutter4 and colleagues. Why is it still being ignored? Why is this OK? Why are we still bothering to spend billions on road safety if it kills only a fraction of those who die from COVID?

Yes, a perfect example is the front page of today's The West Australian.

While this is indeed a tragedy and my condolences to the familes of those who died I still haven't seen a front page story (or any mention in the paper at all) this week about the SEVEN
West Australians who were reported (by the Department of "Health") to have died from Covid last week.

Why not? Especially seeing as it was just over 2 years ago when this same worthless rag had a huge front page story (and an extra 16 pages of "virus coverage" inside) about 3 COVID CASES
in Perth (caused by one of many hotel quarantine breaches around Australia at the time) which resulted in a 4 day lockdown here.

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Reply #417 - Sep 30^th, 2023 at 9:49am

Yes, Covid still hasn't gone away and Australians are still dying every week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

44
deaths reported again last week... and that's without death numbers from several States.

Cases and hospitalisations are on the way up again even if deaths are gradually being "hidden".

Expect case numbers to take a dramatic drop next week after NSW and WA close their RAT portals on Monday so positive RATs can no longer be reported and recorded.

As Covid Live is starting to become a little unreliable these days here's the "real" numbers as far as can be ascertained:

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1707676061352481187#m

50
deaths not 44 as reported by Covid Live.

And, if this isn't enough to wake people up (it won't, of course) then I don't know what will.

https://nitter.net/DrMLivingston/status/1707771402898780352#m

Michael is in WA so I'm sure BA.2.86 (Pirola) has already spread to the rest of Australia by now.

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Well that rounds out another exciting week of 🦠 dodging.

Where are we up to now? RSV, HPIV-3, hMPV and what else to knock them out the park?

COVID is back.

Of course it is.

I know for runs and giggles it has to be BA.2.86 (Pirola) due to the way the patient contracted the virus.

Masks? Of course not.
Vaccinated? Of course not.

Needing my help, as shock horror, natural immunity isn’t doing a single thing to help them.

So eye protection, mask, HEPA, VirX/Envoid, Glen20, Surface Wipes, Ventilation and now the dreaded wait begins…like the times before, again and again and again for the eventual positive RATs and community spread, if, indeed people even bother testing anymore?

No, of course they don't bother testing because they believe that all they have is a "cold" (or hay fever).

In addition, the national disgrace that is Covid aged care deaths continues unabated:

https://nitter.net/BigBadDenis/status/1707658700654350828#m

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COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 28 September 2023

🔹Active cases: 927 (+101)
🔹Active outbreaks: 142 (+29)
🔹Residents: 695 (+89)
🔹Staff: 232 (+12)
🔹Reported deaths in 2023: 1,113 (+9)

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🔸5,880 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,113 reported deaths in 2023

And this will no doubt continue while we have a Federal Aged Care Minister (Anika Wells) who spends more time promoting sport (her other portfolio) than she does dealing with Aged Care and doing something about the Covid deaths.

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Reply #418 - Sep 30^th, 2023 at 10:37am

hi ya carl

millions of australians will watch the footy finals this weekend

a handful of cult members will watch twitter commentary on masks

its time to let it go and rejoin your society

no man is an island

isolation will not keep you safe, isolation is seen by the geneva convention as a cruel and unusual punishment , stop being addicted to illness (also known as low vibration energy)

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Reply #419 - Sep 30^th, 2023 at 10:48am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 10:37am:

stop being addicted to illness

You mean like being "addicted" to being infected and reinfected with SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) which is still classed as a Level 3 Biohazard just like what's happening with the majority of the population right now while they mistakenly believe that all they have is a "cold"?

Except that (unknown to them at the moment) their immune systems are gradually being trashed with every Covid infection leaving them susceptible to a large number of other diseases and illnesses, plus possible heart, lung and brain issues, etc.

OK... got it.

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