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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1095 - Oct 9^th, 2024 at 9:18pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 9^th, 2024 at 9:11pm:

And look what we have here...

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1843517798582297056

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Chief medical officer Professor Paul Kelly to retire.

"Professor Kelly’s last day in the department will be 21 October 2024."

After that Guardian 'puff piece' let's see what a few people think about that, shall we?

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Maddie
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Oct 8
Replying to @BigBadDenis
He's just collected his salary for 4 1/2 years as he's done SFA except deny the seriousness of Covid-19. Hope he gets a 'good retirement/Christmas gift' like the one he wished on all of us!

Oct 8, 2024 · 5:12 AM UTC

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💜JaguarBeesOz-Indoor Air Quality Legislation
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Oct 8
Replying to @BigBadDenis
This is such good news. 🥳🎉
I thought he'd leave last year. He's obviously remained in the job to maximise his salary for his superannuation benefits.
I hope Brett Sutton is brought in & we get a move on.
#CovidIsAirborne #CovidIsNotOver #CleanAir

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Denise C.
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Oct 8
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Can't come soon enough ...
'Dry tinder' 🤬
'No different to any other respiratory virus' 🤯
'Hybrid immunity' 🤨

Oct 8, 2024 · 5:13 AM UTC

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Jordan Crane
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Oct 8
Replying to @BigBadDenis
Is this because of the upcoming c19 inquiry?

Oct 8, 2024 · 6:03 AM UTC

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Matt Nisselle
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Oct 8
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Hooray!!!
I hope he doesn’t sail off into the sunset though; there’s still his reckoning on the horizon!
Hopefully…

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Alix
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Oct 8
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Preparing for future health threats while failing to procure vaccines for the current ones🤦‍♀️

Hopefully the next CMO might prioritise existing vaccine & medication shortages whilst reclaiming the role of public health from politicians who put the business lobby front & centre.

Oct 8, 2024 · 6:02 AM UTC

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Dan Jago
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Oct 8
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His lack of expertise, leadership and advice led to thousands of deaths and disability.

Professor Kelly’s lack of expertise, and poor communication provided false reassurance to the public

Oct 8, 2024 · 7:06 AM UTC

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Appit
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It's not like he's done anything of note. He's been the acting head of the CDC since 1st Jan 2024 - I've only seen them appear in the news once since then.

🤔 Think that was only the announcement it had an office!!

Like many before him, he skips away with a healthy pension.

Oct 9, 2024 · 8:31 AM UTC

And many more just like that.

Finally... from Tim (the ex virologist):

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Tim 🇦🇺🇮🇱
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Oct 8
I think I speak for many Australians when I say

GOOD RIDDANCE

To this sociopath who facilitated the quiet slaughter of tens of thousands of vulnerable Australians

Agreed.

Now, when do we get rid of aquascoot's hero Dr. Death/Lex Luthor in Queensland?

Come to think of it... where IS he these days? Has he gone into hiding again while Covid and other viruses run rampant (especially the new XEC Covid variant that's caused/ is still causing chaos in the UK, Europe and now Australia)?

And when do we get rid of "Butterballs"? That's Mr. bad Elvis impersonator (and good for nothing else) by the way.

Now you're using X as evidence of something like LastNail? Anonymous posts as evidence of something? Peas in a pod?

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1096 - Oct 9^th, 2024 at 9:31pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 9^th, 2024 at 9:18pm:

Now you're using X as evidence of something like LastNail? Anonymous posts as evidence of something? Peas in a pod?

Unlike Sir Nail's "evidence", a lot of these people are real people with real medical knowledge.

And, you really can't argue with cold, hard evidence, can you?

Exhibit A

Exhibit B

And that's just this year so far.

While I'm here, I'll also add this:

Exhibit C

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🇺🇸US weekly COVID update: 91,800 new cases and sadly 1,209 new deaths.

"This is the 8th week in a row with more than 1,000 new COVID deaths in the U.S."

Pretty scary stuff for a pandemic that's supposed to be over.

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Reply #1097 - Oct 14^th, 2024 at 6:40pm

Wow.

And it would be the same for the rest of Australia (if the other States and Territories apart from Victoria were not 'hiding' these numbers).

Thousands of patients caught COVID in NSW hospitals last year and hundreds died, new data shows

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In short:

At least 6,007 patients caught COVID in NSW public hospitals in 2023 and 297 died — about 115 infections and six deaths per week, on average.

Experts say infection control protocols are not good enough, with some doctors warning widespread indifference to COVID is costing too many lives and adding unnecessary pressure to the health system.

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Thousands of patients caught COVID in NSW public hospitals last year and hundreds died, fuelling concerns among infection control experts and healthcare workers that hospitals are not taking strong enough precautions against airborne viruses.

NSW Ministry of Health data released under freedom of information laws shows at least 6,007 patients caught COVID in hospital in 2023 and 297 died — about 115 laboratory confirmed infections and six deaths per week, on average.

Similar figures were recorded in the first few months of 2024, with 1,729 patients catching COVID and 86 dying between January and April this year. For context, about 2,100 people died from or with COVID in NSW in 2023, suggesting about 14 per cent of those were patients who contracted the virus in hospital.

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The data was released following an application by lawyer Peter Vogel who, for 18 months, was pointed between the Ministry of Health — which initially denied holding "complete and accurate records" of hospital acquired COVID infections — and the Clinical Excellence Commission, which directed Mr Vogel back to the Ministry of Health, which eventually released the data he had sought.

Yes, thank you to Peter Vogel for continuing to pursue this.

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Hospitals know how to stop COVID spreading

Stéphane Bouchoucha, president of the Australasian College for Infection Prevention and Control, said the new figures were "concerning and tragic" especially for the families of people who had died.

"We know how COVID is transmitted and we know how to prevent healthcare associated infections," Dr Bouchouca said — by ensuring good ventilation and air filtration, testing and contact tracing, isolating infected patients and requiring healthcare workers to wear masks.

If hospitals were recording similar numbers of deaths from golden staph infections, Dr Bouchoucha said, swift action would be taken. "But I think people react differently because it's COVID — 'It's alright, it's a respiratory disease, it's not so bad' — trying to minimise the fact it is still a healthcare associated infection," he said.

"This is the core business of infection prevention and control … The premise that we can allow some deaths, to me, is wrong."

Yes, it is wrong. And all because a large number of noisy, complaining healthcare workers don't want to wear masks.

From Tim, the ex virologist:

https://x.com/LettersfromTim/status/1845619124724289584

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Well done @psvbluemts
- without your efforts this data would remain hidden by @NSWHealth

Yes, I'm sure it would. Hidden forever, no doubt. As long as the population are working, shopping and spending nothing else matters to our pollies and big business.

Disgraceful stuff.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1098 - Oct 15^th, 2024 at 8:11am

Yes, disgraceful stuff indeed.

After finding out that Victoria has a 10% fatality rate for hospital acquired Covid last year (also obtained under Freedom of Information laws) we've now seen that NSW has a 14% fatality rate.

I wonder what the rate is for the rest of Australia, especially Queensland? Probably at least 10% by the look of things.

No wonder our governments have been trying so hard to keep all of this 'swept under the rug' to the point where they're too scared to even mention the C(ovid) word anymore.

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Reply #1099 - Oct 15^th, 2024 at 4:32pm

hi carl

the big hotel owners and airlines who are big political donors told albo that this covid crap was costing their bottom line

hence covid is over

surely you know thats how politics works

now run along and let albo get on with freeing up some houses and cash as old people drop off the perch

thats about all albo sees you and your ilk as useful for Roll Eyes

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1100 - Oct 25^th, 2024 at 4:22pm

Tragically, there's been a huge increase in Covid Aged Care deaths in Australia this week.

74
reported deaths.

Cases and outbreaks are also on the increase again.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1849689450542236076

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COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 24 October 2024

🔹Active cases: 907 (+309)
🔹Active outbreaks: 142 (+46)
🔹Residents: 653 (+204)
🔹Staff: 254 (+105)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 970 (+74*)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1849689572462276828

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*64 deaths reported in the last week are due to delayed reporting from a single aged care service provider.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1849689453192937970

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7,096 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸970 reported deaths in 2024

And the majority of Australians continue to be blissfully unaware (and uninformed by government and the media) of this ongoing tragedy while the pollies continue their cowardly 'vow of silence' regarding all things Covid related (except for thinking and probably talking amongst themselves about all the money they're saving on pensions and healthcare costs, of course).

Disgraceful stuff.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111572 Melbourne Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #1101 - Oct 25^th, 2024 at 4:29pm That's weird - they are only reporting 2 Covid deaths for the whole of Australia today for the last week: https://covidlive.com.au/ Fri 25 Oct - Total Confirmed Deaths 2 deaths in the ACT.
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Reply #1102 - Oct 25^th, 2024 at 4:47pm

Bobby... Bobby... Bobby...

... I've said this many times but Covid Live is no longer reliable and hasn't been for some time now (altough they are correct with the 2 reported ACT deaths this week).

It isn't their fault though - it's due to our Federal and State governments 'hiding' or delaying reporting of Covid deaths these days to try and maintain the illusion that the pandemic is over.

Anyway... while I'm here... I wonder if we'll see this reported in the media here? (Spoiler alert: Probably not).

Japan COVID deaths 14 times that of flu after guidelines lifted

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More than 30,000 people in Japan died of COVID-19 in the first year after most coronavirus-related guidelines were lifted in May 2023, a figure over 14 times higher than deaths caused by influenza during the same period, government data showed Thursday.

Coronavirus infections led to 32,576 deaths during the 12 months, with those aged 65 or older accounting for 97 percent of the total, while the number of influenza fatalities reached 2,244, according to the health ministry's vital statistics.

But, just like Australia, I'm sure the pollies there are pleased and don't care that 97% of these deaths are people aged 65 and over.

The esteemed Dr. David Berger sums it up well:

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1849581119781704183

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Once it became apparent that it was mainly just Grandma and Grandpa who were going to die, and thus the impact was concealable and plausibly deniable, all effort evaporated.

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1849582213815521328

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The 'dry tinder' people, the people who said Grandma and Grandpa had 'had their moment and it was now time for them to be sacrificed for the younger generation', well they won. And now we live with an endemic, repeatedly infecting, debilitating virus with long term consequences.

Yes. Exactly like Australia. And the US, the UK, Canada and many more.

And no doubt cheered on by the likes of aquascoot and his ilk.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1103 - Oct 25^th, 2024 at 4:54pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 25^th, 2024 at 4:47pm:

Bobby... Bobby... Bobby...

... I've said this many times but Covid Live is no longer reliable and hasn't been for some time now (altough they are correct with the 2 reported ACT deaths this week).

It isn't their fault though - it's due to our Federal and State governments 'hiding' or delaying reporting of Covid deaths these days to try and maintain the illusion that the pandemic is over.

Anyway... while I'm here... I wonder if we'll see this reported in the media here? (Spoiler alert: Probably not).

It says -

https://covidlive.com.au/

COVID Live data is collected from media releases and verified against state and federal health departments.

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9967 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #1104 - Oct 25^th, 2024 at 5:00pm OK, I'm out for the day. I feel a headache coming on. Anyone else want to take it from here and play with Bobby?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111572 Melbourne Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #1105 - Oct 27^th, 2024 at 1:51pm Carl D wrote on Oct 25^th, 2024 at 5:00pm: OK, I'm out for the day. I feel a headache coming on. Anyone else want to take it from here and play with Bobby? No one wants to play with you either. forgiven namaste
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Reply #1106 - Oct 27^th, 2024 at 2:45pm

Thank you Bobby.

Your forgiveness means a lot to me. Roll Eyes

Meanwhile, I'm still trying to imagine what would be happening if 74 elderly Australians had died in a bus crash last week.

It would be the leading news story on every TV station and on the front page of every newspaper in the country for at least a week.

And the pollies (especially that fraud Albanese) would be all over the media offering their fake condolences to the families.

74 aged care deaths from SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) and all we have is chirping crickets from the media and the pollies.

As I said - disgraceful stuff.

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Reply #1107 - Oct 27^th, 2024 at 3:45pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 27^th, 2024 at 2:45pm:

Thank you Bobby.

Your forgiveness means a lot to me. Roll Eyes

Meanwhile, I'm still trying to imagine what would be happening if 74 elderly Australians had died in a bus crash last week.

It would be the leading news story on every TV station and on the front page of every newspaper in the country for at least a week.

And the pollies (especially that fraud Albanese) would be all over the media offering their fake condolences to the families.

74 aged care deaths from SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) and all we have is chirping crickets from the media and the pollies.

As I said - disgraceful stuff.

When you're old you're expected to die at any time from any cause -

even tripping on a mat and falling on to soft carpet.

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Reply #1108 - Oct 28^th, 2024 at 8:26am

So, if it wasn't for Covid, most or all of those 74 aged care residents would still be alive today.

Same as the 790 aged care residents who have died from/with Covid since the start of this year.

And I'm also sure that most of the 7,096 aged care residents who have died from/with Covid since the start of the pandemic would still be alive.

And most of these deaths are mainly due to staff and visitors, tradesmen, etc. not wanting to wear a mask - same as with hospitals and other healthcare settings.

And you're OK with that?

I see.

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Reply #1109 - Oct 28^th, 2024 at 12:23pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 8:26am:

So, if it wasn't for Covid, most or all of those 74 aged care residents would still be alive today.

Same as the 790 aged care residents who have died from/with Covid since the start of this year.

And I'm also sure that most of the 7,096 aged care residents who have died from/with Covid since the start of the pandemic would still be alive.

And most of these deaths are mainly due to staff and visitors, tradesmen, etc. not wanting to wear a mask - same as with hospitals and other healthcare settings.

And you're OK with that?

I see.

hi there carl

YOU SAID and i quote

"covid is just as big a threat to the healthy as to the unhealthy"

so how come it is the old and frail and unhealthy who are dying and not the staff, visitors and tradesmen.

care to rectify your lie Roll Eyes

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