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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1065 - Sep 5^th, 2024 at 3:19pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 2:22pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

covid kills the very old and infirm

the flu can kill young people, including infants

stop comparing apples to oranges

And I'm sure you're perfectly fine with that happening?

Yes, of course you are.

Same as our governments are perfectly fine with it because of all the money they're saving on pensions and healthcare costs (as I've said many times before).

By the way... Covid is (and has been) killing young people and infants too. More than the flu does.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1066 - Sep 5^th, 2024 at 4:35pm

The old should die, so the young can get their dicks wet and drink beer. That's always been scoot's philosophy.

And there is a line in the sand where it makes sense.

The young who need to be building their lives to support the next generations until it's their turn should not have to sacrifice everything for the elderly who are clinging onto life in their late 90's.

The problem is Scoot has set the age far lower than that, mid 60s even.

And it's also important to note that the idea of working to support a community and not just an entirely selfish endeavour is also counter to much of Scoots rhetoric so it's extremely kind for me to assume this is his intention.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1067 - Sep 5^th, 2024 at 4:41pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 3:19pm:

Carl D wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 2:22pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

covid kills the very old and infirm

the flu can kill young people, including infants

stop comparing apples to oranges

And I'm sure you're perfectly fine with that happening?

Yes, of course you are.

Same as our governments are perfectly fine with it because of all the money they're saving on pensions and healthcare costs (as I've said many times before).

By the way... Covid is (and has been) killing young people and infants too. More than the flu does.

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Covid Is Way More Lethal to Kids Than The Flu

In the US, nearly six times more kids and teens died from Covid in one year than did from the flu, according to a new analysis of pediatric mortality data.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1068 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 9:00am

H5N1 "bird flu" again.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1833015348372623413

Looks like they've dragged CMO Kelly out of hibernation to do a bit of 'minimising' for something that has a 50% CFR (Case Fatality Rate) in humans.

https://x.com/scarletp1792/status/1833041494871347364

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Meanwhile the CMO is very alert, very alert but not alarmed…

Also he says there’s “no evidence … that it would cause serious illness in humans”

Where have I heard that before 🤔

https://x.com/Sophs0123/status/1833289532902674870

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Why is Paul Kelly still CMO?! How many Australians have died from COVID because of his mistakes?!! He misled the public into thinking Omicron is ‘mild.’ I fear for the health & lives of Australians if H5N1 arrives here…

Yes, why is he still CMO?
And, yes... we are going to be totally screwed if/when H5N1 arrives here (if it hasn't already).

Someone said on X the other day that they might apply for the job of CMO next time it becomes available because there doesn't seem to be much work involved... and you get a big fat taxpayer funded pension when you retire, of course.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1069 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:03pm

And...

... while we have the government and CMO (Chief Minimising Officer) Paul Kelly telling us there's nothing to worry about, along comes this:

US Confirms First Human Case of Bird Flu With No Known Animal Trace

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Another person has fallen ill with bird flu in the United States, but this time, public health officials don't know how they caught the highly pathogenic avian influenza virus (HPAIV).

Thankfully, the patient has recovered, but they are the 14th person to fall ill with bird flu in the US this year, and the first patient with "no immediate known animal exposure", according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

All previous human cases were among workers who had contracted the virus from sick animals on poultry or dairy farms. This new case is a mystery the CDC is desperately trying to solve.

On August 22, an adult patient tested positive for the avian virus at a hospital in the state of Missouri, where only poultry and wild birds have previously tested positive for the H5N1 strain of the virus.

Tick tock... tick tock... time is running out.

As I've said before... if this "bird flu" (and Mpox) goes full human to human transmission (if they haven't already) it will be fascinating to watch how the government tries to convince everyone that it's "just a cold" like they've done with SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19).

I have a feeling it's going to be a 'hard sell', even with a population as selfish, stupid and gullible as ours.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1070 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:30pm

hi carl

how many australians will die of bird flu today?

meanwhile

Heart attack is a leading cause of hospitalisation and death in Australia, claiming on average 19 lives every day. That's one person every 74 minutes. An estimated 430,000 Australians have had a heart attack at some point in their lives, and every year, 57,000 Australians suffer a heart attack.

dont spend significant time on insignificant things

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1071 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:45pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:30pm:

how many australians will die of bird flu today?

How many Australians died of COVID-19 in 2019?

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Heart attack is a leading cause of hospitalisation and death in Australia, claiming on average 19 lives every day. That's one person every 74 minutes. An estimated 430,000 Australians have had a heart attack at some point in their lives, and every year, 57,000 Australians suffer a heart attack.

And how much of that is caused by (repeated) Covid infections these days?

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dont spend significant time on insignificant things

Yes, I agree with you for once.

I do spend way too much time reading and replying to your posts.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1072 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 4:20pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:45pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:30pm:

how many australians will die of bird flu today?

How many Australians died of COVID-19 in 2019?

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Heart attack is a leading cause of hospitalisation and death in Australia, claiming on average 19 lives every day. That's one person every 74 minutes. An estimated 430,000 Australians have had a heart attack at some point in their lives, and every year, 57,000 Australians suffer a heart attack.

And how much of that is caused by (repeated) Covid infections these days?

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dont spend significant time on insignificant things

Yes, I agree with you for once.

I do spend way too much time reading and replying to your posts.

carl thinks australias 57,000 heart attacks per year are due to repeated covid infections Grin

and he says nail has gone down a rabbit hole

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1073 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 4:47pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 4:20pm:

carl thinks australias 57,000 heart attacks per year are due to repeated covid infections Grin

Do I? Where did I say that?

However, I do think (and I've said this before) you should be a politician.

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and he says nail has gone down a rabbit hole

Sir Nail has gone so far down the conspiracy/antivaxxer nutter rabbit hole there's absolutely no chance he'll ever find his way out (and Bobby isn't too far behind him).

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1074 - Sep 12^th, 2024 at 5:15am

Carl D wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 4:47pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 4:20pm:

carl thinks australias 57,000 heart attacks per year are due to repeated covid infections Grin

Do I? Where did I say that?

However, I do think (and I've said this before) you should be a politician.

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and he says nail has gone down a rabbit hole

Sir Nail has gone so far down the conspiracy/antivaxxer nutter rabbit hole there's absolutely no chance he'll ever find his way out (and Bobby isn't too far behind him).

carl has gone so far down the rabbit hole of "safetyism" theres no way he'll ever find his way out (and gweg isnt far behind him )

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1075 - Sep 12^th, 2024 at 8:19am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 12^th, 2024 at 5:15am:

carl has gone so far down the rabbit hole of "safetyism" theres no way he'll ever find his way out (and gweg isnt far behind him )

Hey, aquascoot.

Ever heard of this?

Precautionary principle

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The precautionary principle (or precautionary approach) is a broad epistemological, philosophical and legal approach to innovations with potential for causing harm when extensive scientific knowledge on the matter is lacking.

It emphasizes caution, pausing and review before leaping into new innovations that may prove disastrous.

Our governments (reluctantly, apparently) applied this in dealing with the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) pandemic at the beginning (until it became obvious the virus wasn't going away like the original SARS virus did 20 years ago and it also became obvious that the virus wasn't becoming "mild" or "just like a cold").

And, this "Precautionary Principle" should definitely apply to even more dangerous viruses like "bird flu" and Mpox but because our governments have 'painted themselves into a corner' with their (ongoing) disastrous handling of Covid they're now too afraid (and more concerned about their precious economy - especially with an election coming up) to even recommend basic protections like quarantine and masks.

Perhaps you should also include this "Precautionary Principle" in your numerous word salads about "Personal Responsibility"?

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1077 - Sep 16^th, 2024 at 6:26pm

Back in the US again.

https://x.com/BNOFeed/status/1835513580575215910

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Weekly U.S. COVID update:

- New cases: 150,210 est.
- Average: 166,986 (-4,752)
- In hospital: 5,299 (+3)
- In ICU: 625 (+5)
- New deaths: 1,232
- Average: 1,281 (+24)

Note: Limited data

And...

https://x.com/MeetJess/status/1835580128929198420

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5000 people have died in a little over a month.
Seems awfully high for a pandemic that’s “over”.

And this is an undercount

Yes, it does.

And, yes, I'm sure it is.

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Reply #1078 - Sep 17^th, 2024 at 5:22am

Carl D wrote on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 6:26pm:

Back in the US again.

https://x.com/BNOFeed/status/1835513580575215910

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Weekly U.S. COVID update:

- New cases: 150,210 est.
- Average: 166,986 (-4,752)
- In hospital: 5,299 (+3)
- In ICU: 625 (+5)
- New deaths: 1,232
- Average: 1,281 (+24)

Note: Limited data

And...

https://x.com/MeetJess/status/1835580128929198420

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5000 people have died in a little over a month.
Seems awfully high for a pandemic that’s “over”.

And this is an undercount

Yes, it does.

And, yes, I'm sure it is.

hi there carl

it seems the government you love so much when it is doing what you like has revealed its true colours now it is doing what you dont like.

you put your trust in them and they let you down

you are totally correct

they want you to die

5000 deaths is 5000 more houses on the market and 5000 less pensions

has it occured to you that you will now have to take 'personal responsibility' for your health.

clearly albo wants you gone

even i can see it

they dont even advertise covid vaccines

they want you dead mate

you and the million or so other older suatralians are just a burden and they need that cash for their green energy dreams

you have been betrayed

they are not going to help you

you are on your own

abandoned

anyone who isnt a pet interest group is just nothing to them

albo probaly gets slightly erect knowing his budget is getting better as covid does the jobe for him

but keep voting labor Wink

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #1079 - Sep 17^th, 2024 at 8:51am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 17^th, 2024 at 5:22am:

hi there carl

it seems the government you love so much when it is doing what you like has revealed its true colours now it is doing what you dont like.

you put your trust in them and they let you down

you are totally correct

they want you to die

5000 deaths is 5000 more houses on the market and 5000 less pensions

has it occured to you that you will now have to take 'personal responsibility' for your health.

clearly albo wants you gone

even i can see it

they dont even advertise covid vaccines

they want you dead mate

you and the million or so other older suatralians are just a burden and they need that cash for their green energy dreams

you have been betrayed

they are not going to help you

you are on your own

abandoned

anyone who isnt a pet interest group is just nothing to them

albo probaly gets slightly erect knowing his budget is getting better as covid does the jobe for him

but keep voting labor Wink

I've been looking at this word salad for the past 5 minutes and I'm still trying to work out if it's meant to be sarcastic or not?

Because (shock, horror) I agree with what you've posted and you are correct (for a change) except for:

1. "the government you love so much".

I do not - and never have - loved the government. Any government. Quite the opposite, in fact.

2. "has it occured to you that you will now have to take 'personal responsibility' for your health."

Yes, it has - and yes, I do. But you should have already known that.

3. "but keep voting labor"

Nah... I don't think so. I voted Labor from when I became eligible to vote in 1975 up to and including the last Federal and State elections.

But - never again. And I won't be voting Liberal so don't worry about that.

Now I'm just going to sit back and wait for aquascoot to appear and try to tell us he didn't post any of that (maybe his alter ego "Mr. Ed" hijacked his account?) Grin

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