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What is wrong with this saucer?
Apr 17th, 2023 at 10:55am
 
Drinking some gunpowder tea in an old cup—dates to before 1865 minimum.

What is wrong with the saucer?
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Reply #1 - Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:15am
 
If it isn't the angle of the photo it looks to be a bit oval in shape - longer at the bottom. The centre flower should be in the centre.
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Reply #2 - Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:17am
 
No, that is the angle of the photo.

Much more obvious than that, when you “get” it anyway  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #3 - Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:19am
 
Flower on the left the top leaves branch is backward. The leaves go toward the flower not away. Same on all the flowers.

That is not necessarily an error - could just be the way the branch is rising toward the flower.

Nice old cup.not my thing but I do like it.

We had some old cups like that , I have no idea what happened to them. They were great to drink from. Now I drink from anything.
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Reply #4 - Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:32am
 
I don’t have my catalog handy. It is translucent and could be bone china if English or hard paste porcelain if European or chinese. I don’t get a definite “orange skin” pattern on the base of the saucer nor the typical hard paste look. Most likely to be English.

Two things are different about it compared to modern saucers.
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Reply #5 - Apr 17th, 2023 at 1:42pm
 
It looks deeper but that could also be the photo.

It also looks thick for that period - but I wouldn't know I am use to seeing tea cups (english style). Not 100% sold that this is one.
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Reply #6 - Apr 17th, 2023 at 1:55pm
 
Yeah, it is deeper than modern day saucers—remember the article by George Orwell where he recommends drinking the tea out the saucer? Need a saucer like mine to have enough tea in it to be worthwhile.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Nice_Cup_of_Tea

Well done, not the main difference tho.
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Reply #7 - Apr 18th, 2023 at 9:47am
 
Main difference is that the bottom of the saucer is smooth—the cup can slide about a lot, unlike modern saucers which became ubiquitous in 1865.
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Reply #8 - Apr 18th, 2023 at 9:51am
 
Before that some saucers were made “trembleuse” so that his Lordship, hand not too steady after a night drinking, gambling and whoring would not spill his morning cup of tea all over himself:

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