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MeisterEckhart

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Re: Lying fuqqing 'political' Indigenous bitches.
Reply #60 - Apr 20^th, 2023 at 9:32am

Aussie wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 8:44am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 9:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 9:27pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 9:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 9:01pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 7:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 6:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 7:52am:

That will be for Government to determine. This is all tokenism, symbolism...whatever.

And when the 'Voice Commission' is dominated by 1/8 - 1/4 caste 'Aboriginal' Australians, arrogating to themselves the right to speak for all Aboriginal 'people', and whose accumulation of power and influence is capable of unduly influencing the Australian government and Parliament, ultimately perverting Australian democracy?

Then the govt, of the day can change the set up of 'the voice' so as to reflect expectations off the day.
This is why the referendum doesn't specify how the voice is to be set up. So as to give future governments flexibility . The only thing that will be set in stone is that there will be a voice, how that voice is to be presented is up to the government of the day.

And when the Voice is enshrined in the Constitution?

The point of its enshrinement in the constitution is to ensure it has a permanent and irrevocable influence on the Australian government of the day.

Rubbish. It gets as much 'influence' as the Government of the day wants to give it.

And when the government of the day disregards the 'Voice Commission', what then? Litigation? Sent to the High Court to determine whether the government of the day acted unconstitutionally?

The constitution will only say that they have to have a voice, not that the government has to act on it. The government has said repeatedly that whether it acts on that advice or not will be up to them.

What is the point of a constitutional voice if it doesn't translate into power?

A constitutional body that is subsequently disregarded by the government of the day will have socio-political consequences that will lead to litigation.

The voice is predicated on the lie of aboriginal unity and is promoted by people with less claim to aboriginal descent than many descendants of immigrants have to their ancestors' homeland.

A gesture of goodwill, recognition, tokenism, sybolism...etc.

And you call yourself a lawyer!

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Re: Lying fuqqing 'political' Indigenous bitches.
Reply #61 - Apr 20^th, 2023 at 9:40am

Aussie wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 8:44am:

A gesture of goodwill, recognition, tokenism, sybolism...etc.

Kevin Rudd's 'Sorry' statement was a gesture of goodwill, recognition, tokenism, and symbolism.

The consequences of amending the Constitution (particularly where it recognises a committee which binds Parliament to consider its recommendations), go way beyond a gesture of goodwill, recognition, tokenism, symbolism...

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Re: Lying fuqqing 'political' Indigenous bitches.
Reply #62 - Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:16am