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Reply #30 - Apr 16th, 2023 at 9:11pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 16th, 2023 at 6:17am:
Biden has sent so many weapons to the Ukraine, the US military is running out at home...


Quote:
The United States will transfer military equipment worth up to $400 million to Ukraine
to aid its defense against the Russian invasion, Defense Department officials said today,
3 March 2023.

Apparently you favour not supporting Ukraine against the brutal
Russian invasion of the country?    What sort of prick are you?

aquascoot wrote on Apr 16th, 2023 at 6:17am:
Why do the left love guns so much...


The Left aren't the people "loving" guns.  That's the Republicans:

9% of Democratic and 39% of Republican respondents said they believe the right to own guns is more important,

28% of Democratic and 48% of Republican respondents said they have a gun in their house,

34% of Republican and 87% of Democratic respondents said they were “very” or “somewhat” confident that stricter gun laws would reduce mass shootings,

24% of Democratic and 66% of Republican respondents said they “strongly” or “somewhat” favor arming K-12 teachers,

37% of Republican and 83% of Democratic respondents said they “strongly” or “somewhat” favor banning assault weapons,

70% of Republican and 85% of Democratic respondents said they “strongly” or “somewhat” support red-flag laws.

Morning Consult and Politico—FiveThirtyEight, 7 June 2022.

Your usual and frequent deliberate misquoting of statistics comes as no
surprise to me Aquascoot.  You've made that particular habit more than
obvious on every COVID thread on this site.




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Reply #31 - Apr 16th, 2023 at 9:26pm
 
I found a website featuring violent video recordings. I could not find an uncensored video featuring the police shooting in New Mexico.
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Reply #32 - Apr 16th, 2023 at 10:19pm
 
This report includes a 9 min 10 sec video.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/15/police-shooting-wrong-house-vid...

Longest I could find.

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Reply #33 - Apr 17th, 2023 at 7:57am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Apr 16th, 2023 at 8:39pm:
Dnarever wrote on Apr 16th, 2023 at 12:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2023 at 11:57am:
AusGeoff wrote on Apr 15th, 2023 at 8:23pm:
And this explains just why Americans who think by having guns in
their homes they're safer because of it are totally wrong

It also confirms the statistics that report you're more likely to be shot
if you have guns in your home
, and oftentimes by your family's own
weapons.



Exactly!



The margin is huge, A gun in a home is something like 98% more likely to shoot a family member or friend than an intruder.

Americans who live in a home with no guns have a higher life expectancy.



Studies have shown that it creates a dangerous work environment for home invaders when the home owner is armed.


It creates a dangerous environment for the home owners.

Most American gun owners say they own firearms to protect themselves and their loved ones, but a study published this week suggests people who live with handgun owners are shot to death at a higher rate than those who don’t have such weapons at home.

People in homes with handguns more likely to be shot dead, major study finds

“We found zero evidence of any kind of protective effects” from living in a home with a handgun, said David Studdert, a Stanford University researcher who was the lead author of the Annals of Internal Medicine study.
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Reply #34 - Apr 17th, 2023 at 8:07am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2023 at 7:57am:
Mortdooley wrote on Apr 16th, 2023 at 8:39pm:
Dnarever wrote on Apr 16th, 2023 at 12:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2023 at 11:57am:
AusGeoff wrote on Apr 15th, 2023 at 8:23pm:
And this explains just why Americans who think by having guns in
their homes they're safer because of it are totally wrong

It also confirms the statistics that report you're more likely to be shot
if you have guns in your home
, and oftentimes by your family's own
weapons.



Exactly!



The margin is huge, A gun in a home is something like 98% more likely to shoot a family member or friend than an intruder.

Americans who live in a home with no guns have a higher life expectancy.



Studies have shown that it creates a dangerous work environment for home invaders when the home owner is armed.


It creates a dangerous environment for the home owners.

Most American gun owners say they own firearms to protect themselves and their loved ones, but a study published this week suggests people who live with handgun owners are shot to death at a higher rate than those who don’t have such weapons at home.

People in homes with handguns more likely to be shot dead, major study finds

“We found zero evidence of any kind of protective effects” from living in a home with a handgun, said David Studdert, a Stanford University researcher who was the lead author of the Annals of Internal Medicine study.


In particular, the researchers found, people who lived with handgun owners had a much higher rate of being fatally shot by a spouse or intimate partner. The vast majority of such victims, 84%, were women, they said.

Living with a handgun owner particularly increased the risk of being shot to death in a domestic violence incident, and it did not provide any protection against being killed at home by a stranger, the researchers found.

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Reply #35 - Apr 17th, 2023 at 9:44pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2023 at 8:07am:
 
...Most American gun owners say they own firearms to protect themselves and their loved ones, but a study published this week suggests people who live with handgun owners are shot to death at a higher rate than those who don’t have such weapons at home.

People in homes with handguns more likely to be shot dead, major study finds

“We found zero evidence of any kind of protective effects” from living in a home with a handgun, said David Studdert, a Stanford University researcher who was the lead author of the Annals of Internal Medicine study.


In particular, the researchers found, people who lived with handgun owners had a much higher rate of being fatally shot by a spouse or intimate partner. The vast majority of such victims, 84%, were women, they said.

Living with a handgun owner particularly increased the risk of being shot to death in a domestic violence incident, and it did not provide any protection against being killed at home by a stranger, the researchers found.

The overarching problem is that far too many US gun owners are
either too stupid or too stubborn to acknowledge these confirmed
statistics.

They'd rather bury their heads in the sand, and simply whinge
about possibly losing their 2nd Amendment rights to kill other
people.

...

Since the NRA's founding in 1871, nine of the following 28
presidents were NRA members. Of those nine, EIGHT were
Republicans
while one, Kennedy, was a Democrat.


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Reply #36 - Apr 17th, 2023 at 9:47pm
 
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Reply #37 - Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:16pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Apr 16th, 2023 at 10:19pm:
This report includes a 9 min 10 sec video.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/15/police-shooting-wrong-house-vid...

Longest I could find.


Thank you for finding that.

I found the footage to favour the police acting in self-defence. The guy walked out of the house, raised his handgun to point at police, and then was shot by the officers. The wife then went to avenge his death and was (nearly) shot by the police, too.
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Reply #38 - Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:35pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:16pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Apr 16th, 2023 at 10:19pm:
This report includes a 9 min 10 sec video.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/15/police-shooting-wrong-house-vid...

Longest I could find.


Thank you for finding that.

I found the footage to favour the police acting in self-defence. The guy walked out of the house, raised his handgun to point at police, and then was shot by the officers. The wife then went to avenge his death and was (nearly) shot by the police, too.


Yes.  If I were confronted by a householder aiming a handgun
at me, I'd only think one thought... he's gonna pull the trigger.

I agree the cops were right to act as they did in this scenario.

If this bloke had not had a firearm in the house, then he'd still
be alive today.   This confirms the fact that you're more likely
to be killed by a gun if you have one in your house.

[Stanford Medicine, 4 April 2022]



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Reply #39 - Apr 18th, 2023 at 9:32am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:35pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:16pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Apr 16th, 2023 at 10:19pm:
This report includes a 9 min 10 sec video.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/15/police-shooting-wrong-house-vid...

Longest I could find.


Thank you for finding that.

I found the footage to favour the police acting in self-defence. The guy walked out of the house, raised his handgun to point at police, and then was shot by the officers. The wife then went to avenge his death and was (nearly) shot by the police, too.


Yes.  If I were confronted by a householder aiming a handgun
at me, I'd only think one thought... he's gonna pull the trigger.

I agree the cops were right to act as they did in this scenario.

If this bloke had not had a firearm in the house, then he'd still
be alive today.   This confirms the fact that you're more likely
to be killed by a gun if you have one in your house.

[Stanford Medicine, 4 April 2022]





It's not about having a gun in the house. It's about aiming it at the police. Of course they shot him.  You pull a gun on the cops, they shoot you.
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Reply #40 - Apr 18th, 2023 at 10:31am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 18th, 2023 at 9:32am:
AusGeoff wrote on Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:35pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:16pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Apr 16th, 2023 at 10:19pm:
This report includes a 9 min 10 sec video.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/15/police-shooting-wrong-house-vid...

Longest I could find.


Thank you for finding that.

I found the footage to favour the police acting in self-defence. The guy walked out of the house, raised his handgun to point at police, and then was shot by the officers. The wife then went to avenge his death and was (nearly) shot by the police, too.


Yes.  If I were confronted by a householder aiming a handgun
at me, I'd only think one thought... he's gonna pull the trigger.

I agree the cops were right to act as they did in this scenario.

If this bloke had not had a firearm in the house, then he'd still
be alive today.   This confirms the fact that you're more likely
to be killed by a gun if you have one in your house.

[Stanford Medicine, 4 April 2022]





It's not about having a gun in the house. It's about aiming it at the police. Of course they shot him.  You pull a gun on the cops, they shoot you.


Jesus, some people are thick.

If he didn't have a gun in his house he couldn't point it at a cop.

Having a gun in the home doesn't offer the occupants any security - it actually makes the house a much more dangerous place to be.

"Living with a handgun owner particularly increased the risk of being shot to death in a domestic violence incident, and it did not provide any protection against being killed at home by a stranger, the researchers found."
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Reply #41 - Apr 18th, 2023 at 11:45am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 18th, 2023 at 9:32am:
AusGeoff wrote on Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:35pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:16pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Apr 16th, 2023 at 10:19pm:
This report includes a 9 min 10 sec video.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/15/police-shooting-wrong-house-vid...

Longest I could find.


Thank you for finding that.

I found the footage to favour the police acting in self-defence. The guy walked out of the house, raised his handgun to point at police, and then was shot by the officers. The wife then went to avenge his death and was (nearly) shot by the police, too.


Yes.  If I were confronted by a householder aiming a handgun
at me, I'd only think one thought... he's gonna pull the trigger.

I agree the cops were right to act as they did in this scenario.

If this bloke had not had a firearm in the house, then he'd still
be alive today.   This confirms the fact that you're more likely
to be killed by a gun if you have one in your house.

[Stanford Medicine, 4 April 2022]





It's not about having a gun in the house. It's about aiming it at the police. Of course they shot him.  You pull a gun on the cops, they shoot you.


Guns don't kill people, old boy.

The tinted races do.
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Reply #42 - Apr 18th, 2023 at 2:07pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18th, 2023 at 10:31am:
Frank wrote on Apr 18th, 2023 at 9:32am:
AusGeoff wrote on Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:35pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:16pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Apr 16th, 2023 at 10:19pm:
This report includes a 9 min 10 sec video.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/15/police-shooting-wrong-house-vid...

Longest I could find.


Thank you for finding that.

I found the footage to favour the police acting in self-defence. The guy walked out of the house, raised his handgun to point at police, and then was shot by the officers. The wife then went to avenge his death and was (nearly) shot by the police, too.


Yes.  If I were confronted by a householder aiming a handgun
at me, I'd only think one thought... he's gonna pull the trigger.

I agree the cops were right to act as they did in this scenario.

If this bloke had not had a firearm in the house, then he'd still
be alive today.   This confirms the fact that you're more likely
to be killed by a gun if you have one in your house.

[Stanford Medicine, 4 April 2022]





It's not about having a gun in the house. It's about aiming it at the police. Of course they shot him.  You pull a gun on the cops, they shoot you.


Jesus, some people are thick.

If he didn't have a gun in his house he couldn't point it at a cop.

Having a gun in the home doesn't offer the occupants any security - it actually makes the house a much more dangerous place to be.

"Living with a handgun owner particularly increased the risk of being shot to death in a domestic violence incident, and it did not provide any protection against being killed at home by a stranger, the researchers found."


Yeah, and research shows that people who have cars are more likely get speeding and parking fines than people who don't drive. Another research has conclusively shown that people playing with fire are more likely to get burnt than people who don't. Another research has finally ended the debate whether people working on ladders are more likely to fall off than those who don't climb ladders. Science is amazing. Get this: people who grope around in the dark are more likely to stub their toes on something than those who turn on the lights. They are so clever, those researchers.





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Reply #43 - Apr 18th, 2023 at 2:39pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 18th, 2023 at 2:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18th, 2023 at 10:31am:
Frank wrote on Apr 18th, 2023 at 9:32am:
AusGeoff wrote on Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:35pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 17th, 2023 at 11:16pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Apr 16th, 2023 at 10:19pm:
This report includes a 9 min 10 sec video.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/15/police-shooting-wrong-house-vid...

Longest I could find.


Thank you for finding that.

I found the footage to favour the police acting in self-defence. The guy walked out of the house, raised his handgun to point at police, and then was shot by the officers. The wife then went to avenge his death and was (nearly) shot by the police, too.


Yes.  If I were confronted by a householder aiming a handgun
at me, I'd only think one thought... he's gonna pull the trigger.

I agree the cops were right to act as they did in this scenario.

If this bloke had not had a firearm in the house, then he'd still
be alive today.   This confirms the fact that you're more likely
to be killed by a gun if you have one in your house.

[Stanford Medicine, 4 April 2022]





It's not about having a gun in the house. It's about aiming it at the police. Of course they shot him.  You pull a gun on the cops, they shoot you.


Jesus, some people are thick.

If he didn't have a gun in his house he couldn't point it at a cop.

Having a gun in the home doesn't offer the occupants any security - it actually makes the house a much more dangerous place to be.

"Living with a handgun owner particularly increased the risk of being shot to death in a domestic violence incident, and it did not provide any protection against being killed at home by a stranger, the researchers found."


Yeah, and research shows that people who have cars are more likely get speeding and parking fines than people who don't drive. Another research has conclusively shown that people playing with fire are more likely to get burnt than people who don't. Another research has finally ended the debate whether people working on ladders are more likely to fall off than those who don't climb ladders. Science is amazing. Get this: people who grope around in the dark are more likely to stub their toes on something than those who turn on the lights. They are so clever, those researchers.


Research has shown that guns are made for killing, not transport, fire fighting, climbing ladders, or moving in dark places....Research also shows that guns kill more children in America than any other cause....Research also confirms that Fwank is a complete dickhead!!!

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Reply #44 - Apr 18th, 2023 at 2:43pm
 
I get confused the second amendment says that you can have a gun in your own home ?

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed except when the police want to shoot you. OH I see now.
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