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Reply #465 - Apr 30^th, 2023 at 11:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 9:05pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 9:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 7:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 6:26pm:

And that's okay. It's gospel truth, you said.
Are you sure of that? We said.
Yes, you said. It's all true - and you know it.
Now, can you show us how he plans to stop the war in Ukraine?
Mr Trump said he'll stop this within 24 hours of coming into office. In fact, he added, he might choose to do it earlier, even before he gets in. We'll have to wait and see what happens.
How do you think he'll do this, Bobby?
That's a question.

One phone call to Putin and it's over.
Maybe he'll do it to save the world very soon?
Trump has Putin's phone number doesn't he?
Maybe Trump will travel to Moscow and tell Putin to stop it in person?

So why doesn't he do it now?

He does deals. He's free to call up Vlad now.

It's currently 2pm Moscow time. What's the big fella waiting for?

Trump will make a deal that Putin cannot refuse:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Trump_The_Art_of_The_Deal%2C_cove...

Don't want to answer the question, eh? Why is that, Bobby?

We'll do this as a multiple choice, shall we?

Bobby doesn't want to say why his Dear Leader will not call off the war in Ukraine because:

a) He thinks his Dear Leader's talking shit.

b) He wants the war to continue at all costs.

c) He couldn't care less, he's just having a bit of fun.

d) He wants to stall, see more Ukrainian civilians killed and wait and see what happens.

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Re: Joe Biden...such a liar
Reply #466 - Apr 30^th, 2023 at 11:47pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 10:47pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 10:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 7:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 6:26pm:

And that's okay. It's gospel truth, you said.
Are you sure of that? We said.
Yes, you said. It's all true - and you know it.
Now, can you show us how he plans to stop the war in Ukraine?
Mr Trump said he'll stop this within 24 hours of coming into office. In fact, he added, he might choose to do it earlier, even before he gets in. We'll have to wait and see what happens.
How do you think he'll do this, Bobby?
That's a question.

One phone call to Putin and it's over.
Maybe he'll do it to save the world very soon?
Trump has Putin's phone number doesn't he?
Maybe Trump will travel to Moscow and tell Putin to stop it in person?

No he already explained how he would end it. He doesn't need to talk to Putin. His intention is to give most of Ukraine to Russia. His phone call would be to Ukraine to tell them to accept any deal they can get with Russia because he is going to switch sides.

Really?

Do you have a link or did you make that up?

https://www.latimes.com/books/la-et-jc-art-of-the-deal-fiction-trump-tony-schwar...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tony-schwartz-trumps-ghostwriter-says-writing-the-a...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/04/donald-trump-tony-schwartz-inter...

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 109668 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Joe Biden...such a liar Reply #467 - Apr 30^th, 2023 at 11:57pm Dear Matty - those links don't explain: Quote: No he already explained how he would end it. He doesn't need to talk to Putin. His intention is to give most of Ukraine to Russia. His phone call would be to Ukraine to tell them to accept any deal they can get with Russia because he is going to switch sides.
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Re: Joe Biden...such a liar
Reply #468 - Apr 30^th, 2023 at 11:58pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 11:45pm:

Don't want to answer the question, eh? Why is that, Bobby?

We'll do this as a multiple choice, shall we?

Bobby doesn't want to say why his Dear Leader will not call off the war in Ukraine because:

a) He thinks his Dear Leader's talking shit.

b) He wants the war to continue at all costs.

c) He couldn't care less, he's just having a bit of fun.

d) He wants to stall, see more Ukrainian civilians killed and wait and see what happens.

You're speculating.
We don't know the deal that Trump has in mind.

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Reply #469 - May 1^st, 2023 at 12:00am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 10:47pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 10:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 7:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 6:26pm:

And that's okay. It's gospel truth, you said.
Are you sure of that? We said.
Yes, you said. It's all true - and you know it.
Now, can you show us how he plans to stop the war in Ukraine?
Mr Trump said he'll stop this within 24 hours of coming into office. In fact, he added, he might choose to do it earlier, even before he gets in. We'll have to wait and see what happens.
How do you think he'll do this, Bobby?
That's a question.

One phone call to Putin and it's over.
Maybe he'll do it to save the world very soon?
Trump has Putin's phone number doesn't he?
Maybe Trump will travel to Moscow and tell Putin to stop it in person?

No he already explained how he would end it. He doesn't need to talk to Putin. His intention is to give most of Ukraine to Russia. His phone call would be to Ukraine to tell them to accept any deal they can get with Russia because he is going to switch sides.

Really?

Do you have a link or did you make that up?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-edits-out-donald-trump-saying-he-mightve-...

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I could’ve made a deal to take over something, there are certain areas that are Russian-speaking areas, frankly, but you could’ve worked a deal.”

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Reply #470 - May 1^st, 2023 at 12:07am

DNA is right.

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Trump, all he needed to do was let Russia “take over” parts of Ukraine.

The former president then added: “That’s without even negotiating a deal.
I could have negotiated. At worst, I could’ve made a deal to take over something,
there are certain areas that are Russian-speaking areas, frankly, but you could’ve worked a deal.”

Well - not the best outcome but better than a global nuclear war.

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Re: Joe Biden...such a liar
Reply #471 - May 1^st, 2023 at 12:35am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 11:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 11:45pm:

Don't want to answer the question, eh? Why is that, Bobby?

We'll do this as a multiple choice, shall we?

Bobby doesn't want to say why his Dear Leader will not call off the war in Ukraine because:

a) He thinks his Dear Leader's talking shit.

b) He wants the war to continue at all costs.

c) He couldn't care less, he's just having a bit of fun.

d) He wants to stall, see more Ukrainian civilians killed and wait and see what happens.

You're speculating.
We don't know the deal that Trump has in mind.

Oh, I see. You've selected D, eh?

Good choice, Bobby.

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Reply #472 - May 1^st, 2023 at 12:48am

Bobby. wrote on May 1^st, 2023 at 12:07am:

DNA is right.

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Trump, all he needed to do was let Russia “take over” parts of Ukraine.

The former president then added: “That’s without even negotiating a deal.
I could have negotiated. At worst, I could’ve made a deal to take over something,
there are certain areas that are Russian-speaking areas, frankly, but you could’ve worked a deal.”

Well - not the best outcome but better than a global nuclear war.

It's not an option at all, Bobby. Zalensky won't accept it. He's made it clear that he'll only talk when Russia withdraws its troops.

Your Dear Leader failed at every foreign negotiation he entered during his time as prez.

Chi-na - failed.

North Korea - failed.

Iran - got them back on the nukes.

Mexico refused to pay. Canada had a chuckle over his trade surplus figures. He threw a hissy at Malcolm Turnbull. France and the UK just laughed at him. The G7 stared him down.

Russia? Hard to say. He made his interpreter destroy her notes.

Can you name one success during your Dear Leader's short stint as a deal-maker?

Cheers.

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Re: Joe Biden...such a liar
Reply #473 - May 1^st, 2023 at 5:05am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 11:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 11:45pm:

Don't want to answer the question, eh? Why is that, Bobby?

We'll do this as a multiple choice, shall we?

Bobby doesn't want to say why his Dear Leader will not call off the war in Ukraine because:

a) He thinks his Dear Leader's talking shit.

b) He wants the war to continue at all costs.

c) He couldn't care less, he's just having a bit of fun.

d) He wants to stall, see more Ukrainian civilians killed and wait and see what happens.

You're speculating.
We don't know the deal that Trump has in mind.

Oh, I think we do.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 109668 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Joe Biden...such a liar Reply #474 - May 1^st, 2023 at 4:37pm Jump to 2:32 - Joe Biden is caught out telling a huge lie:
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 142079 Gender:	Re: Joe Biden...such a liar Reply #475 - May 1^st, 2023 at 5:43pm If President Joe Biden told a new lie every day from now until the end of his second term, he still wouldn't reach the number of lies criminal defendant Trump told in his first week in office.
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Reply #476 - May 1^st, 2023 at 5:43pm

Bobby. wrote on May 1^st, 2023 at 12:07am:

DNA is right.

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Trump, all he needed to do was let Russia “take over” parts of Ukraine.

The former president then added: “That’s without even negotiating a deal.
I could have negotiated. At worst, I could’ve made a deal to take over something,
there are certain areas that are Russian-speaking areas, frankly, but you could’ve worked a deal.”

Well - not the best outcome but better than a global nuclear war.

This solution could start the war. It isn't a real solution. Give in to the Russian bully this time and it is just like Crimea and the others. Just one more step to the next step. If you don't stand up to the bully it never ends.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 109668 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Joe Biden...such a liar Reply #477 - May 1^st, 2023 at 5:47pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 1^st, 2023 at 5:43pm: If President Joe Biden told a new lie every day from now until the end of his second term, he still wouldn't reach the number of lies criminal defendant Trump told in his first week in office. But you admit that Biden is now a proven liar?
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Re: Joe Biden...such a liar
Reply #478 - May 1^st, 2023 at 5:48pm

Dnarever wrote on May 1^st, 2023 at 5:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 1^st, 2023 at 12:07am:

DNA is right.

Quote:

Trump, all he needed to do was let Russia “take over” parts of Ukraine.

The former president then added: “That’s without even negotiating a deal.
I could have negotiated. At worst, I could’ve made a deal to take over something,
there are certain areas that are Russian-speaking areas, frankly, but you could’ve worked a deal.”

Well - not the best outcome but better than a global nuclear war.

This solution could start the war. It isn't a real solution. Give in to the Russian bully this time and it is just like Crimea and the others. Just one more step to the next step. If you don't stand up to the bully it never ends.

Good - then I hope that Ukraine wins the war and Russia
gets kicked out of Crimea and the Donbas etc.
I also hope that no nukes will go off.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59826 Here Gender:	Re: Joe Biden...such a liar Reply #479 - May 1^st, 2023 at 5:50pm Bobby. wrote on May 1^st, 2023 at 4:37pm: Jump to 2:32 - Joe Biden is caught out telling a huge lie: Is it a lie or is it what he was told ? He was fairly young when it happened. I was told things that I believed but have found out were wrong.
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