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Reply #30 - Apr 10^th, 2023 at 4:31pm

Here is the BBC article on the planned bombardment of Taiwan on the orders of the Chinese Communist Party. All militaries practice maneuvres, but this indecent. Their plans a well advanced to kill everyone who does not submit to Communism. Even as a "Chinese" claim of ownership of Taiwan, there is no validity to such a claim. And anyway, that's no reason to kill people.
Meanwhile, here in Australia, Leftist still sympathise with the Communists.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-65223970

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Reply #31 - Apr 10^th, 2023 at 5:37pm

Aha - Numbah One! This time Vietnam America on same side... Indonesia, Philippines, Malaysia, all trading nation of world wan' access to Souf China Sea...

China has three Airborne divisions, only one of which was combat ready and they wouldn't be the first little bow-legged Corporal to come a cropper crossing a body of water filled with hostile forces and open to weapons from afar.

I predict a 24 hour shooting war with massive shipping losses and aircraft losses to CCP... no victory.

Ha, ha - perhaps now we will see how well the 20% women in the RAN do - the ones they fill the pharken ads with all the time, and that 100th anniversary thing.... not one woman ever lost in combat in the RAN and they did not interview one single man sailor... just the sheilas. It WAS the ABC, though - at the time they started to lose me as a viewer....

I don't do propaganda...

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Reply #32 - Apr 10^th, 2023 at 5:39pm

I'm not sympathising with the Commies.
I'm saying that the USA is using Taiwan, as it is Ukraine, to its own selfish agenda.
The USA is not the United Nations. It's a privatised Political entity. It only has its own self interests at hand.

Here is a 2016 clip. Untainted and uncorrupted by recent USA narrative, so it's basically true. I suggest you all watch this as it basically proves that Taiwan is 'China' regardless of Political rule - from antiquity.
You will also see how the USA has meddled in Taiwan/China affairs with the Democrats taking power in Taiwan and thus pushed for 'Independence' from all things 'China'. The USA is using Taiwan to undermine China in any way.
Like I said. The Democrats accused Trump of raising 'Nationalism' in the USA, yet support the Nationalists of Taiwan.
Australia should not be involving itself with the USA's 'dirty pool' tactics - especially when Asia is not a part of North America and the USA is NOT the United Nations.
Britain left Hong Kong (even if the drug addicts cried out)
USA should stay the f*uck out of Asia and away from Taiwan.
Watch and learn!
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=is+taiwan+part+of+china&&view=detail&mid=8F...

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Reply #33 - Apr 10^th, 2023 at 5:44pm

Jasin wrote on Apr 10^th, 2023 at 11:57am:

"We are here (in Korea) to kick out the Yellow Mongols from Asia"

...these were the immortal words of General Macarthur during the Korean War.

A War that had 'North Americans' fighting in Asia (again) as the most invasive nation on the planet.

The USSR & USA default COLD WAR of threatening the entire World with nuclear destruction if 'White Man' didn't get half of it.
That's right - the USSR moving eastward into Asia for 'Europe' to kick all those Yellow People out (and into Oceania with their Polynesian brethren?) - let alone kicking the Brown People out of the Middle-East (and into Sahul with the Aborigines?).

So the YIN/YANG of turning the entire Northern (Superior) Hemisphere 'all White' with America's help... kinda, well - just failed didn't it? Wink

We all know Master Plans exist. It's what has driven every great conflict.

With the failure and capitulation of the USSR and that Master Plan (maybe Joe wants to 'build back', the past - dementia style?) of Yin/Yang. It looks like China at the most is now getting its 'REVENGE' after being invaded, bullied, drugged out, etc, etc.

What we now see is the USA also trying to save face in retreat. It wants the evil Nationalists, a former dictatorship of Taiwan, to stay beyond China's reach for its own Economic reasons 'only'. Wouldn't give a rats how its people live.

Sow the trail with radioactive waste, was the catchcry in Vietnam.... don't bomb 'em - just give 'em the silent death treatment...... if it's a choice between theirs and yours... well - you know..... I'd rather they be writing letters home to mothers ......

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Reply #34 - Apr 10^th, 2023 at 5:51pm

And it's all backfired now Grapps. The 'Master Plan' failed.
The Brown Man gets to stay in the Middle-East and the Yellow Man gets to keep Asia and all that once was, is now falling away and I'm not just talking about Britain handing back Hong Kong.
But the Democrats are still holding onto their power of the past with Dopey Joe wanting to 'Build Back'(wards) into the glory days of old (Dementia Roll Eyes

) as Putin tries to relive the old USSR powerhouse.

The world, as usual - is being manipulated into the Democrats (USA) evil International Crimes.

The USA is a lone wolf and Britain, Australia and the Commonwealth should beware of this 'scarred' USA under the Democrats.

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Reply #35 - Apr 10^th, 2023 at 6:03pm

issuevoter wrote on Apr 10^th, 2023 at 4:31pm:

Here is the BBC article on the planned bombardment of Taiwan on the orders of the Chinese Communist Party. All militaries practice maneuvres, but this indecent. Their plans a well advanced to kill everyone who does not submit to Communism. Even as a "Chinese" claim of ownership of Taiwan, there is no validity to such a claim. And anyway, that's no reason to kill people.
Meanwhile, here in Australia, Leftist still sympathise with the Communists.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-65223970

More of the CCP's quixotic show of farce for local consumption.

Like the CCP's Taiwan Strait great fish kill last year.

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Reply #36 - Apr 10^th, 2023 at 7:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2023 at 10:08pm:

Jasin wrote on Apr 9^th, 2023 at 10:02pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 9^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Jasin wrote on Apr 9^th, 2023 at 9:40pm:

I don't think you or anyone know the full extent of capability of the Chinese War Machine to make that comment.

How many wars have the PLA/PLAN fought?

How many battle-experienced troops does the CCP have at its disposal?

Has it ever mattered in the past?

China will conquer Taiwan.
Let's just get the whole thing over and done with, so the world can move on from the past.

After Taiwan - who's next on the hit list ?

The Philippines ?

Indonesia ?

Australia ?

With news that India has just taken over China's population numbers, and China appearing to go backwards in population, I doubt that China will have the numbers to really overextend themselves. The people under the age of 60 will have to work hard to feed their ageing population. But, perhaps that was the reason why the Chinese released the covid virus onto their elderly.

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Reply #37 - Apr 10^th, 2023 at 7:18pm

You have a point on the population thing Sub.
But India will be hamstrung by China's allies in Pakistan and Bangladesh either side of them, as well as China.

I predict that India's population will implode from the 'mass production' towards a more refined population growth towards 'quality' over quantity.

...nukes will decimate India's population for starters.

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25068 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: China invading Taiwan Reply #38 - Apr 10^th, 2023 at 7:18pm Jasin wrote on Apr 10^th, 2023 at 12:06pm: *sips a coffee. Get's up and decides to go outside. You probably won't be able to afford the coffee or be brave enough to go outside, if war starts against Taiwan.
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Reply #39 - Apr 10^th, 2023 at 7:22pm

Jasin wrote on Apr 10^th, 2023 at 7:18pm:

You have a point on the population thing Sub.
But India will be hamstrung by China's allies in Pakistan and Bangladesh either side of them, as well as China.

I predict that India's population will implode from the 'mass production' towards a more refined population growth towards 'quality' over quantity.

...nukes will decimate India's population for starters.

I did not mean that India and China will go to war against each other, even though I have heard the Chinese talk about that possibility. I was saying that India has overtaken first place in the world in terms of population numbers. China has a population dwindling because few younger people are having children. China will have an oversupply of elderly just eating up resources. Unless the Chinese want the elderly to keep working until the elderly die, it is going to be difficult for China to really mount an expansionist policy into other countries, other than economically.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52829 Gender:	Re: China invading Taiwan Reply #40 - Apr 10^th, 2023 at 7:23pm UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 10^th, 2023 at 7:18pm: Jasin wrote on Apr 10^th, 2023 at 12:06pm: *sips a coffee. Get's up and decides to go outside. You probably won't be able to afford the coffee or be brave enough to go outside, if war starts against Taiwan. Ha! We're I'm sitting Sub. I will be just fine.
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Reply #41 - Apr 10^th, 2023 at 7:25pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 10^th, 2023 at 7:22pm:

Jasin wrote on Apr 10^th, 2023 at 7:18pm:

You have a point on the population thing Sub.
But India will be hamstrung by China's allies in Pakistan and Bangladesh either side of them, as well as China.

I predict that India's population will implode from the 'mass production' towards a more refined population growth towards 'quality' over quantity.

...nukes will decimate India's population for starters.

I did not mean that India and China will go to war against each other, even though I have heard the Chinese talk about that possibility. I was saying that India has overtaken first place in the world in terms of population numbers. China has a population dwindling because few younger people are having children. China will have an oversupply of elderly just eating up resources. Unless the Chinese want the elderly to keep working until the elderly die, it is going to be difficult for China to really mount an expansionist policy into other countries, other than economically.

Look at it this way. Every race wants 'equality'.
Asia is for the 'Yellow Man' mass production.
Not the White (Russian) mass production.
Not the Black (Indian) mass production.
...the latter two have other parts of the world representing their racial 'mass production'.

India's 'Population' Quantity over Quality days are ...numbered.

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Reply #43 - Apr 10^th, 2023 at 7:29pm

China has been cocky in trying to push their authority over other nations. The Chinese got lippy about Morrison's call for an enquiry about the origins of the covid virus. The standards that the Chinese hold for their own people is getting tested out on parts of the world, including Australia.

If democracy takes hold in China, you can imagine the break up of China into smaller countries. Taiwan won't be part of China for very long, if the unwanted invasion of Taiwan takes place by China soon.

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Reply #44 - Apr 10^th, 2023 at 7:40pm

China has stated in the past a 'peaceful' unification with the Nationalists - including the incorporation of the Nationalist symbol into the Chinese Flag.
China does not want to 'invade' via violence.
It just wants the USA out of Taiwan and to stop meddling in Asian affairs.
Fair point - the USA is not the United Nations.

So in essence - the Communists were more than happy years ago for Taiwan to remain 'Nationalist'.
...then the USA got involved and now, everything is hostile.
Taiwanese may loose their lives. All for what? USA pumping its democracy capitalism and keeping a toe-hold on something that is not theirs.

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