Aurora Complexus wrote on Sep 19
th, 2024 at 10:15pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 19
th, 2024 at 7:17pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 18
th, 2024 at 3:17pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 18
th, 2024 at 1:01pm:
Aurora Complexus wrote on Sep 18
th, 2024 at 3:55am:
As to whether the "Voice to Parliament" was a racist referendum, I will leave my reply until I have a better idea of my opponents and my allies.
It was racist to the extent it wanted to change the constitution on the basis of race.
The real cause of the 'gap' is our current dyfunctional economic system - ie, obsolete neoclassical economic orthodoxy - which relies on
'welfare' dependency instead of job creation (when the regular job market fails to create jobs for all) to avoid revolution by starving people - the so called 'safety net'.
tgd,
The Voice to Parliament is what basically ended the excessive spending on indigenous and TSI racially exclusive funding. Allegedly, there is a $40 billion funding set aside for the 900,000 people who identify as indigenous Australians. TSI people in Australia number about 40,000.
If you have seen a church in the Weipa region -- I have -- you would see that those people are the most spiritual people on the planet. Please familiarise yourself with videos of TSI songs. They sing like the way they do because the TSI people believe that they are on the verge of extinction. So they live everyday thinking that they will pass on within the week.
"First Nations" people tend to live very similarly. The Australia Day parade had people that were either identifying as First Nations or Indigenous.
And the 'gap'?
How does the nation close it?
In fact, how does the nation eradicate economic poverty and its effects, regardless of race?
Well one obvious move would be to increase unemployment benefit. Many of those people are unemployable in their current place of residence.
Problem: unemployment benefits high enough to avoid poverty of the recipient discourages a work ethic.
Quote:But of course there should always be an incentive to work. In some areas the unemployed could get work, IF they were subsidized.
Agreed. Speaking of a 'subsidy':
https://pavlina-tcherneva.net/the-case-for-a-job-guarantee/One of the most enduring ideas in economics is that unemployment is both unavoidable and necessary for the smooth functioning of the economy. This assumption has provided cover for the devastating social and economic costs of job insecurity. It is also false. Quote:And let's not forget the disabled pensioners. They outnumber the unemployed,
A separate category of people who may or may not be able to work in some capacity.
High Aboriginal unemployment rates among able-bodied blacks is an issue that must be fixed, to
close the 'gap'** (given unemployment benefits are at sub-poverty level).
**the real purpose of the ill-fated, confused "Voice" referendum; the proponents couldn't say HOW the voice would close the gap, and the activists were pushing obsolete black 'sovereignty' ideology.
Quote:and one approach would be to audit them all and bump them back down to JobSeeker payments, but this would surely be wrong in some cases. Disabled people would lose their leases and become homeless. A better approach would be TAFE for free (actually current policy, but not well advertised.)
The last sentence (highlighted) is the only worthwhile suggestion, in fact part of the JG system mentioned above.
Job-seeker is below poverty-level (even the BCA acknowledges it)
Quote:From my personal experience, it does not seem that people would rather earn their money than have it handed to them as a pension. The money for working must be more than the pension. "The dignity of work" is a load of Marxist bullshit: people work when they get paid.
1. Depends on whether they have access to housing and other supports, to enable survival on a poverty level pension (Jobseeker).
2. "The dignity of work is not "Marxist bullshit", it's Coalition ideology: 'the best form of welfare is a job".
Quote:The perfect solution is a payment for being Australian.
An above-poverty UBI...... might be possible when robots are doing most of the grunt jobs; in the meantime a JG is the optimum solution for the eradication of welfare dependency with it associated problems.
Quote:At about the level of the disability or aged pension. But this is very expensive, and rewards "dole bludgers" in a way which is not generally acceptable. A citizenship payment at the level of unemployment benefit, well that might just work.
So, your thinking is confused: are the unemployed "dole bludgers", or disabled, or shut out of the job market by a dysfunctional economic system - as I maintain (as posited in the linked quote, above) and do they deserve above-poverty pensions, in a welfare-based system?
You want the dole to be above-poverty-level, but you have noted (correctly) this discourages work.
Have a look at the Job Guarantee.
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