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Re: We lost Uluru - more to lose with a voice?
Reply #60 - Apr 7^th, 2023 at 6:03pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 2:08pm:

Gnads wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 1:43pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 11:41am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 10:58am:

NO! So why is this given to one minority group here? Because they cry louder, are the only ones who even get a say, and have the ear of the supplicant and stupid media?[

I asked Gnads and he disappeared; what is his proposal to close the gap...he might assist the Nats in their concerns that a voice won't close the gap.

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The spiritual aspects of all of those things are for everyone - not just the province of a small group. This is nothing more than an example of the profligate use of land to sustain a transient hunter gatherer society that has long been overturned by civilisation.

Yes, 'culture' dies hard: some Christians want to insist on certain perceived "rights" to discriminate.

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Civil war is coming if the stupid politicians and their bum chums keep on down this path.

It is interesting the High Court confirmed 'land rights', instead of confirming the right of everyone to a home.

Disappeared ? FFS you wanker I don't have to sit here all day responding to you repetitious shyte about a GAP.

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proving yourself to be the ultimate example of a "deplorable": even the Nats are insisting the Yes supporters explain how the voice will close the gap.

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As I've said to you before the gap is the vacuum between your ears.

In 60 years & hundreds of billions of dollars spent ... people/experts ... all on a higher pay grade than I've ever been on have been working out schemes & programs, having enquiries, implementing strategies....... that to this day still fail to remedy the situation.

I can see that it should be a 2 way street ...

Wow.....getting that out of you - is like extracting water from a stone...

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but it never is .... the luvvies & bleeding hearts won't allow it ....

Rather the ideologues like John Howard who cancelled the CDEP won't allow it.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14427591.1993.9686379

The success of CDEP is dependent on these organisations which provide culturally appropriate employment, which includes the CDEP scheme. A recent review (note: in 2011) of the CDEP scheme indicated that 71% of Aboriginal communities surveyed considered that CDEP was helpful in meeting the goals of the community and 82% considered that community members were better off under the scheme

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they want to preserve Aboriginals as primitives in a National Zoo.

There will always be some cultural warriors in any culture.

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Self loathing, guilt tripping, patronising, mollycoddling & for ever pandering & making excuses.

..and John Howard's deplorable neoliberal market ideology.

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You go close to fitting that bill.

feel free to show how I fit that bill (even closely).

Well dipstick .... the voice will not close your gap.

If you so full of answers why haven't you solved the problem?.... as I said there have 60 yeaars of people & experts higher than yours or my pay grades that haven't done it.

When are you stepping up to the plate Casey?

Beyond that you're just a prattling ideologue.

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Re: We lost Uluru - more to lose with a voice?
Reply #61 - Apr 7^th, 2023 at 6:06pm

philperth2010 wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 2:27pm:

Gnads wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 1:46pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 12:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 12:19pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 12:16pm:

I give up trying to explain common law to a complete dickheads like you and Bobby....Get mummy to explain it to you idiot!!!

Roll Eyes

Resorting to Ad Hominem attacks now?

No one can argue against the powerful points I've made in this thread.
It's been a disaster in NZ to give the Maoris a voice and
we've already lost Ayers Rock here - that's enough!

I tore your bullshit to threads mate....Native Title is already established law....The only way to change that is to challenge individual claims in the High Coart or change the Constitution to abolish the rights of Government and Courts to determine laws and enact legislation....You have no idea what you are talking about???

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Our law comes from parliaments and courts. Parliaments make legislation while courts make common law. Parliaments and courts make both private and public law.

Link to explain common law....
https://austlii.community/foswiki/ACTLawHbk/OurLegalSystem#:~:text=Common%20law%...

You couldn't shred a kleenex tissue ... you wanker self praise is no recommendation.

Is that all you have to offer any debate....Why is it self praise to point out basic facts to imbeciles....I am only tying to inform the debate and educate dickheads like you!!!

You're doing a shyte job in both cases .... why?

Because you actually know phucall without Google.

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Re: We lost Uluru - more to lose with a voice?
Reply #62 - Apr 7^th, 2023 at 6:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 5:02pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 4:50pm:

At the very least with this beachfront bullsh

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t they must be forced to give a decent right of way and not block people from using the beaches.

Again - all claims must be carefully scrutinised and it looks like a real overhaul of the way this is done must take place, so that ALL stakeholders get a fair say and a fair resolution. We all know what this is about - be as obstructive and nasty as you can be while the stupid white person is silly enough to let them get away with it.

This has to stop - those days are gone and it's time they stepped into the future.

see this -

If you vote NO to "The Voice" you are a racist bigot! Where have we heard this before?

Happy to be a bigot then.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111678 Melbourne Gender:	Re: We lost Uluru - more to lose with a voice? Reply #63 - Apr 7^th, 2023 at 6:29pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 6:12pm: Happy to be a bigot then. I'm not - the Abbos are the racists and bigots.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 49279 Gender:	Re: We lost Uluru - more to lose with a voice? Reply #64 - Apr 7^th, 2023 at 6:57pm Satan makes you a racist, bigot and queer, does he? A post headed “The Jigaboos are back in charge” is racist and bigoted!
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111678 Melbourne Gender:	Re: We lost Uluru - more to lose with a voice? Reply #65 - Apr 7^th, 2023 at 7:27pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 6:57pm: Satan makes you a racist, bigot and queer, does he? A post headed “The Jigaboos are back in charge” is racist and bigoted! Well - do you want the Jigaboos back in charge? I don't.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52821 Gender:	Re: We lost Uluru - more to lose with a voice? Reply #66 - Apr 7^th, 2023 at 7:53pm 80 years from now. People will be walking around Uluru like Moslems around the Stone of Mecca.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111678 Melbourne Gender:	Re: We lost Uluru - more to lose with a voice? Reply #67 - Apr 7^th, 2023 at 8:19pm Jasin wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 7:53pm: 80 years from now. People will be walking around Uluru like Moslems around the Stone of Mecca. I hope we build a road up to the top of Ayers Rock and have a nice car park on top - that will show progress to the Abbos.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52821 Gender:	Re: We lost Uluru - more to lose with a voice? Reply #68 - Apr 7^th, 2023 at 8:25pm White people are just jealous that they don't have one of their own.
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 87716 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: We lost Uluru - more to lose with a voice? Reply #69 - Apr 7^th, 2023 at 8:48pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 6:29pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 6:12pm: Happy to be a bigot then. I'm not - the Abbos are the racists and bigots. A bigot by their standards is no bigot at all.
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Re: We lost Uluru - more to lose with a voice?
Reply #70 - Apr 7^th, 2023 at 8:55pm

Gnads wrote on Apr 7^th, 2023 at 6:03pm: