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You sure about that ?  It's really big.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 21^st, 2023 at 6:02am:


Some of the QPWS Rangers over there are whiter than me.

It gets worse ... two baby humpback whales washed up on the ocean beach of Fraser Island(that's what it will always be to me) ... one was already dead .... the other barely alive ....

but the QPWS had to consult with the local "Butchulla" people before the decision was made to euthanize it.

Absolutely astounding that all of a sudden the local Aboriginals are experts on whale animal husbandry & veterinary needs.

AusGeoff wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 9:16pm:



ATSIC was abolished because it was too corrupt and THEREFORE ineffective. Why was it corrupt?

It was too clannish, tribal, nepotistic. Can clannish, tribal people have an organisation composed along clannish, tribal lines that is not corrupt (ie clannish and tribal)?


The predecessor of ATSIC was also abolished.

The NAC also campaigned at an international level for a treaty (pp. 386–7). At the United Nations, the World Council of Indigenous Peoples, and the World Assembly of First Nations, the NAC put forward suggestions for a Makarrata including:

- land rights over former reserves and national parks and recognition of traditional rights to hunt, fish and gather on Crown lands
- a National Aboriginal Bank, tax exemptions and payment of 5% of Australia’s gross national product for 195 years as reparations
- one seat per state in the House of Representatives and the Senate to be reserved for an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander person
- self-government of Aboriginal communities and respect for Aboriginal customary law
- return of artefacts and artworks and control over research on Aboriginal people
- dedicated Aboriginal schools, medical centres and legal aid.[4]

The Hawke Government stated in 1985 that it considered a Makarrata would be ‘difficult at this stage’ in the context of ‘efforts required to promote community acceptance for the concept of national land rights legislation’. In 1985, the Hawke Government abolished the NAC, after commissioning a review of its performance and governance. As the NAC was not legislated, it could be abolished by the minister without parliamentary action.
https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_departments/Parliamentary_...


Would a Voice be asking for similar things in their Makarata aims?  Of course they would.
Are they preposterous demands? Yes, they are.

Frank wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2023 at 4:41pm:


Good post, demonstrating the unreality of having two cultures based on different economic systems in the same country.

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I tend to agree; hence we need to close the gap by other means.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 5^th, 2023 at 10:42am:


"Majority" wants to close the gap....

How do you close the gap, greatdivide? The only gap you need closing is your mouth. What strategies do you have to close the gap between indigenous and non-indigenous standards?

We could change and change and change the economic system of Australia a number of times. That does not mean that indigenous people will adapt so that their socioeconomic problems disappear. Everyone else would adapt so that they could live by a new economic model. But the layabout indigenous people would continue the "poor bugger me" lifestyle.