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Aborigines want voting rules relaxed
Mar 27th, 2023 at 7:01am
 
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/mar/26/fears-indigenous-australians-could-be-disfranchised-in-voice-referendum-unless-voting-rules-changed

Despite the Greens pushing the government to allow voters to enrol on referendum day, voters will be required to enrol in advance in order to cast their vote – something advocates say could negatively affect Indigenous communities.

“In a perverse way, [the current rules are] stopping our mob and suppressing their voice to get a voice – it’s a very unusual situation,” the Kamilaroi man said.

“If someone turns up at a polling booth and there’s a person in the community that can vouch for that person – they should be able to vote, that is what we are advocating for.”
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Reply #1 - Mar 27th, 2023 at 7:35am
 
That’s absolutely ridiculous!

Also as I type .... we have current processes in place to ensure everyone gets a chance to vote.

This new half baked idea needs to be nuked ASAP!

I really can’t believe the level of tosspottery going on in Australian politics these days.
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Reply #2 - Mar 27th, 2023 at 7:48am
 
One can only imagine that there aren't a lot of places one can enrol to vote out in the outback
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Reply #3 - Mar 27th, 2023 at 9:22am
 
Of course they do - they want one Abonazi Party vote to be worth the equivalent of at least and frankly > 96.8/3.2 Other votes, so as to ensure that their votes always carry the day, eitherpurely by their own weight or alongside the votes of their supplicant sycophant suck-holes who continue to imagine, despite the clear evidence before their eyes, that the Abonazi Party is not preparing concentration camps of financial advantage for themselves and disadvantage for Others and are preparing a national coup and Permanent Oppression Of The (alleged) Invader alongside Abonazi Supremacism By and For The Originalvolk.
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Reply #4 - Mar 27th, 2023 at 9:24am
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 7:48am:
One can only imagine that there aren't a lot of places one can enrol to vote out in the outback


Postal votes are sent out.... long in advance... if someone has not enrolled it is on their own head, and to enroll you must produce ID.

Better still - put 'em all in Aborassic Park and let 'em vote at the gates  ..... after enrolling properly.... keep the paperwork clear and enforce birthing places so as to ensure no kids go missing etc....
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Reply #5 - Mar 27th, 2023 at 9:44am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 7:35am:
That’s absolutely ridiculous!

Also as I type .... we have current processes in place to ensure everyone gets a chance to vote.

This new half baked idea needs to be nuked ASAP!

I really can’t believe the level of tosspottery going on in Australian politics these days.


Well - Reichschancellor Perrottet offered to confiscate your national parks and hand them over to one of his pet special interest groups.... and instead of tossing out both LNP and Labor, the latter clearly intent on the same thing or even worse - you fools voted one of them back into power when you should have had the tumbrels out collecting them and the guillotines sharpened and greased for action.

Been telling yez for years that politicians, as a breed (good god - they breed?) are ALL deluded that they actually run YOU and not the country on your behalf....

Here's the kind of servitude they expect from you - chained to the wheel and pulling the load like a beast of burden..... imagine if they'd all been current black servants........ ...think of the furore ...


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Reply #6 - Mar 27th, 2023 at 9:59am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 7:01am:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/mar/26/fears-indigenous-australians-could-be-disfranchised-in-voice-referendum-unless-voting-rules-changed

Despite the Greens pushing the government to allow voters to enrol on referendum day, voters will be required to enrol in advance in order to cast their vote – something advocates say could negatively affect Indigenous communities.

“In a perverse way, [the current rules are] stopping our mob and suppressing their voice to get a voice – it’s a very unusual situation,” the Kamilaroi man said.

“If someone turns up at a polling booth and there’s a person in the community that can vouch for that person – they should be able to vote, that is what we are advocating for.”


Always too hard for them to do what is expected of everyone else.

Reconciliation? Bullshyte ..... it's all about special rules for them based on race.

Enroll to vote or dip out......... it's been fine up until now for them not to be enrolled..... but now they need to get this extra privileged voice referendum up ... the push for unelected power over other Australians.

CEO of the Northern Land Council Joe Martin-Jard "The Kamilaroi Man" said Grin

Raised in the NT - Aboriginal ties are southern QLD.

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Reply #7 - Mar 27th, 2023 at 10:32am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 7:01am:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/mar/26/fears-indigenous-australians-could-be-disfranchised-in-voice-referendum-unless-voting-rules-changed

Despite the Greens pushing the government to allow voters to enrol on referendum day, voters will be required to enrol in advance in order to cast their vote – something advocates say could negatively affect Indigenous communities.

“In a perverse way, [the current rules are] stopping our mob and suppressing their voice to get a voice – it’s a very unusual situation,” the Kamilaroi man said.

“If someone turns up at a polling booth and there’s a person in the community that can vouch for that person – they should be able to vote, that is what we are advocating for.”

Vote early, vote often.




In any case:
A referendum is only passed if it is approved by a majority of voters across the nation and a majority of voters in a majority of states—this is known as a double majority. Territory voters are only counted in the national majority.

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Reply #8 - Mar 27th, 2023 at 10:56am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 9:24am:
Postal votes are sent out.... long in advance... if someone has not enrolled it is on their own head, and to enroll you must produce ID.



postal votes are only sent out to those enrolled to vote dumbarse
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Reply #9 - Mar 27th, 2023 at 11:25am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 7:01am:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/mar/26/fears-indigenous-australians-could-be-disfranchised-in-voice-referendum-unless-voting-rules-changed

Despite the Greens pushing the government to allow voters to enrol on referendum day, voters will be required to enrol in advance in order to cast their vote – something advocates say could negatively affect Indigenous communities.

“In a perverse way, [the current rules are] stopping our mob and suppressing their voice to get a voice – it’s a very unusual situation,” the Kamilaroi man said.

“If someone turns up at a polling booth and there’s a person in the community that can vouch for that person – they should be able to vote, that is what we are advocating for.”



And of course they would all need a translator like McGowan's, to explain the wording of the referendum question in Aboriginese and explain the meaning and purpose of constitutional change in the context of the  legal framework of how Australia is governed.

I'd like to hear in Aborigines Kriol how the details would be explained to all those remote ones (!) who don't speak English and can't read and write.
Readers are invited to translate this into Aborigines Kriol:


"A Proposed Law: to alter the Constitution to recognise the First Peoples of Australia by establishing an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice. Do you approve this proposed alteration?"

As well as that, it will be put to Australians that the constitution be amended to include a new chapter titled "Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples".

The details to be inserted in to Constitution would be:

"In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:

1.There shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice;
2.The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples;
3.The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures."



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Reply #10 - Mar 27th, 2023 at 11:32am
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 10:56am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 9:24am:
Postal votes are sent out.... long in advance... if someone has not enrolled it is on their own head, and to enroll you must produce ID.



postal votes are only sent out to those enrolled to vote dumbarse


Oh so dumbarse Frodo you’ve just proven that not only you don’t have the brain capacity to read what’s posted ... you’ve even supported Grappler in essentially stating that the problem isn’t voting ... it’s ENROLLING to vote. See how ignorant you are? All the bloody time?
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Reply #11 - Mar 27th, 2023 at 11:48am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 11:32am:
John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 10:56am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 9:24am:
Postal votes are sent out.... long in advance... if someone has not enrolled it is on their own head, and to enroll you must produce ID.



postal votes are only sent out to those enrolled to vote dumbarse


Oh so dumbarse Frodo you’ve just proven that not only you don’t have the brain capacity to read what’s posted ... you’ve even supported Grappler in essentially stating that the problem isn’t voting ... it’s ENROLLING to vote. See how ignorant you are? All the bloody time?


next time read the OP before you make a fool of yourself!
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Reply #12 - Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:13pm
 
How come the Abos are allowed to vote in this referendum?, it's about them. It should be left up to the rest of Australia to decide if they get a Voice, or not. The Abos would be totally biased to their own cause, would any of them vote "NO"?. Allowing them to vote would be tantamount to rigging the Referendum




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Reply #13 - Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:30pm
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 11:48am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 11:32am:
John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 10:56am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 9:24am:
Postal votes are sent out.... long in advance... if someone has not enrolled it is on their own head, and to enroll you must produce ID.



postal votes are only sent out to those enrolled to vote dumbarse


Oh so dumbarse Frodo you’ve just proven that not only you don’t have the brain capacity to read what’s posted ... you’ve even supported Grappler in essentially stating that the problem isn’t voting ... it’s ENROLLING to vote. See how ignorant you are? All the bloody time?


next time read the OP before you make a fool of yourself!


You’re OBVIOUSLY talking to yourself again. This time you’re actually giving yourself some great advice. That’s a good thing Five Foot Five Frodo. Eventually you MIGHT post something in here which doesn’t contradict yourself OR the OP 😂🤣😆
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Reply #14 - Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:32pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 27th, 2023 at 12:13pm:
How come the Abos are allowed to vote in this referendum?, it's about them. It should be left up to the rest of Australia to decide if they get a Voice, or not. The Abos would be totally biased to their own cause, would any of them vote "NO"?. Allowing them to vote would be tantamount to rigging the Referendum






Ha! Good point!

Frodo is an Abo. He MiGHT finally have something relevant to post in this topic.
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