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Re: Stand back and stand by
Reply #240 - Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:33pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:08pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:00pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:42pm:
you fall under the spell of the master persuader
you make him the star of your own personal movie.


Just as you can't reply to greg's point about Trump' likely destruction of Ron's tilt at the WH, you are defeated by your own logic above: the "master persuader" only gained 74 million votes, cf Biden's  78 million.

How does that tie in with the Dems being "low energy reactives", while you admit the Capitol rioters were also "low energy reactives"? 






it fits in nicely because a stand up comedian has put a wrecking ball thru politics and has a fan base of 74 million.

dave chappelle or chris rock couldnt get 7 million.

now as to gwegs point about trump putting a wrecking ball thru Ron.

its a totally different scenario.

trump relies on low vibration energy...bullying, stirring trolling, raising the buyer seller dynamic
he is interacting with those at the bottom (left and right).

successful people would largely ignore him (though they should take the lesson) and then carry on in high vibration energy

ron is a high vibration guy.

he is trump without the trolling, bullying , complaining and stirring.

he is still wildly attractive to republicans but he will also attract many democrats because they care about law and order, gas prices and inflation.

he may just get the whole dammed country re-united

apart from some goofball righties and some leftie woke morons

8 more years  Wink


"Low energy reactives" on both sides (who you admit are also found on the Right)  are concerned about "law and order, gas prices, and inflation".

That's why the Dems have a good chance at the next elections. 


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Reply #241 - Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:37pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:33pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:08pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 1:00pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:42pm:
you fall under the spell of the master persuader
you make him the star of your own personal movie.


Just as you can't reply to greg's point about Trump' likely destruction of Ron's tilt at the WH, you are defeated by your own logic above: the "master persuader" only gained 74 million votes, cf Biden's  78 million.

How does that tie in with the Dems being "low energy reactives", while you admit the Capitol rioters were also "low energy reactives"? 






it fits in nicely because a stand up comedian has put a wrecking ball thru politics and has a fan base of 74 million.

dave chappelle or chris rock couldnt get 7 million.

now as to gwegs point about trump putting a wrecking ball thru Ron.

its a totally different scenario.

trump relies on low vibration energy...bullying, stirring trolling, raising the buyer seller dynamic
he is interacting with those at the bottom (left and right).

successful people would largely ignore him (though they should take the lesson) and then carry on in high vibration energy

ron is a high vibration guy.

he is trump without the trolling, bullying , complaining and stirring.

he is still wildly attractive to republicans but he will also attract many democrats because they care about law and order, gas prices and inflation.

he may just get the whole dammed country re-united

apart from some goofball righties and some leftie woke morons

8 more years  Wink


"Low energy reactives" on both sides (who you admit are also found on the Right)  are concerned about "law and order, gas prices, and inflation".

That's why the Dems have a good chance at the next elections. 




The right will win if they can get the goods on Mr Potato head.
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Reply #242 - Mar 23rd, 2023 at 5:53pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 11:38pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2023 at 9:27pm:
So at the best he will receive a fine....He will not go to jail IMO???

Huh Huh Huh


If he wasn't at risk of prison they would be hearing the case at the other grand jury, they are hearing the case in the criminal court.

I also doubt that he would go to prison, they may give him home detention if found guilty. If there were only one charge you would be correct he could not go to prison. However there are likely several pending charges. Because of the way he did it there are breaches to electoral laws and tax laws.

His co-conspirator got 3 years for the same crime.


I am not a Lawyer but your summary makes sense....Trump's biggest problem is those he associates with are more corrupt than him....Who would ever hire Michael Cohen to be your lawyer???

Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #243 - Mar 23rd, 2023 at 7:07pm
 
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chodes protest .
protesting is "copmplaining' and "being sad things didnt go your way"
its also being in reaction.

so protesting should always be left to the losers

note trump is still at the action and getting people to "react'
so he  is meeting people where they are at (unfortunately most people are in reaction which is why they are losers)

trump is an entertainer and his currency is attention.

like a mcdonalds owner, he jsut want lots of customers
it they are losers, no skin off his nose.

people should learn the lessons that trump has to offer.

dont be in reaction
dont pay attention to other people
be the star of YOUR OWN MOVIE.

it is no more trumps fault that chodes protest and storm the capital and chodes post hate about him oline (people like you and gweg)then that chodes fill up a maccas

you are all just customers to him. as you are to the maccas owner

in a way, the guys storming the capital have the same energy as you and gweg....reactive.

you fall under the spell of the master persuader
you make him the star of your own personal movie.

thats catastrophic.
lying on your death bed , you will have nothing


I see. So selling chodes protest is just good entertainment. Selling chodes chicken Mcnuggets is just good business. Selling chodes autocracy is just good politics.

He on the "narrow path to success", vibing with the chodes. Not so much a man as a God.

So I'm curious. How about selling chodes vaccines?
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Re: Stand back and stand by
Reply #244 - Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:13pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:54pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:32pm:
Quote:
Incorrect

We admired trump as the entertainer in chief
Trump has always been an entertainer
The perceptive observer such as aqua scoot has always seen him more as a stand-up comedian
And appreciated what he brought to Washington
Having Kanye in the oval office
Jetting off to see rocket boy
Trump basically look at the whole rotten system
And turned it into the set for a very entertaining stand-up comedy show
Well done
He has done us a great service

Now it is time for him to retire to the golf course with our blessing
As we rollout trump version 2

A new improved super confident
Super positive
Unstoppable
Competent
Let's get things done
Type of guy

The virile stud Ron desantis

When they stand desantis next to biden

The contrast between rock solid leadership

And fragile weak sauce decay

Will result in Ron manifesting the White House


True, dear, true. Mr Trump recently had Kanye to dinner, no?

And he had a marvellous relationship with Rocket Man. They were so close Mr Trump kept their letters.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/07/trump-papers-kim-love-letters-na...

So how's the big fella's retirement going? Last I heard, he said this:

Quote:
THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE & FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. IT’S TIME!!! WE JUST CAN’T ALLOW THIS ANYMORE. THEY’RE KILLING OUR NATION AS WE SIT BACK & WATCH. WE MUST SAVE AMERICA! PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!”


Do you think the Real Americans should PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST in defence of their Dear Leader?

Why or why not?


And of course, "PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST", in Trump speak, actually means "Get violent!".

That made some of the Republicans a little nervous (will they be confronted with a gallows next?) so they tried to dial back Donny's cries for violence.

That little Nazi Pixie who lost in Arizona - Kari Loser Lake - went public to declare that "PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST" actually means "Pray to God".

Grin


How cute. Prayer groups all over America will be joining forces and speaking in tongues for the big fella, devout CEO of America Inc and a deacon of his local church if you believe Truth Social.

Perhaps Kari can lay hands.

It may not happen overnight, leftards, but it will happen, no?
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Reply #245 - Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:26pm
 
people are either at the cause/stimulus  (trump) or at the effect/response (matty fisk and gweg)

if you are at the effect, you have given away all your power to the person at the cause

as Stephen Covey points out in his book “The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People”, there’s a lot going on between the stimulus and the response. The stimulus could be what that other person does, or something they say, or the tone of voice in which they say it, or the look on their face.
In order for it to register as a stimulus at all, your mind has to interpret it as something threatening, provoking or guilt inducing, probably by matching it to the memories of previous bad experiences that it might remind you of. You have to evaluate the incoming sensory information in the light of your existing belief system. Maybe you have to tell yourself something about the stimulus that labels it as cheeky, insolent, aggressive, or inappropriate, before you get to feel the bad emotional response.
All this happens at an unconscious level, in a fraction of a second – and the more times you do it, the quicker it happens. Like anything else, you get better with practice – your brain forms new neural pathways which are widened and strengthened with every repetition, so the message to set off the response can whip along them faster and faster. You’re not consciously aware of this process. As a result, it really does feel like the stimulus is causing the next thing you’re aware of – the unresourceful emotional response.
The psychologist Viktor Frankl was imprisoned in Auschwitz and other concentration camps for five years. In that situation he saw the worst of humanity in the behaviour of the guards. Many of his fellow prisoners gave up, or acted as if they had abandoned all human feeling in the struggle to survive, as we would expect in such a terrible predicament.
But Frankl observed other prisoners who, despite being in the worst place in the world, were still able to find meaning in their lives and could still act with kindness and courage. What he saw of the best and worst in people in the camps inspired him to move away from Freud’s belief that the driving force of our actions is instincts and urges; instead, he came to believe that man’s deepest desire is to search for meaning and purpose. Later he wrote the great book ‘Man’s Search for Meaning’, in which he says “Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom.”
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Re: Stand back and stand by
Reply #246 - Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:42pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:54pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 12:32pm:
Quote:
Incorrect

We admired trump as the entertainer in chief
Trump has always been an entertainer
The perceptive observer such as aqua scoot has always seen him more as a stand-up comedian
And appreciated what he brought to Washington
Having Kanye in the oval office
Jetting off to see rocket boy
Trump basically look at the whole rotten system
And turned it into the set for a very entertaining stand-up comedy show
Well done
He has done us a great service

Now it is time for him to retire to the golf course with our blessing
As we rollout trump version 2

A new improved super confident
Super positive
Unstoppable
Competent
Let's get things done
Type of guy

The virile stud Ron desantis

When they stand desantis next to biden

The contrast between rock solid leadership

And fragile weak sauce decay

Will result in Ron manifesting the White House


True, dear, true. Mr Trump recently had Kanye to dinner, no?

And he had a marvellous relationship with Rocket Man. They were so close Mr Trump kept their letters.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/07/trump-papers-kim-love-letters-na...

So how's the big fella's retirement going? Last I heard, he said this:

Quote:
THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE & FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. IT’S TIME!!! WE JUST CAN’T ALLOW THIS ANYMORE. THEY’RE KILLING OUR NATION AS WE SIT BACK & WATCH. WE MUST SAVE AMERICA! PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!”


Do you think the Real Americans should PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST in defence of their Dear Leader?

Why or why not?


And of course, "PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST", in Trump speak, actually means "Get violent!".

That made some of the Republicans a little nervous (will they be confronted with a gallows next?) so they tried to dial back Donny's cries for violence.

That little Nazi Pixie who lost in Arizona - Kari Loser Lake - went public to declare that "PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST" actually means "Pray to God".

Grin


How cute. Prayer groups all over America will be joining forces and speaking in tongues for the big fella, devout CEO of America Inc and a deacon of his local church if you believe Truth Social.

Perhaps Kari can lay hands.

It may not happen overnight, leftards, but it will happen, no?


This little Nazi is off her rocker:

Failed MAGA gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake is urging her supporters to pray for not only her lost election, but also seemingly for Donald Trump as the former president faces possible indictment.

Ms Lake shared a video to Twitter in which she asks supporters to pray that her Arizona election loss is overturned, and for a "bigger prayer – an end to corruption, a restoration of God's glory and a restoration of our God-given rights."
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Reply #247 - Mar 23rd, 2023 at 9:51pm
 
You have to have faith, Greggery. Read your Paretto. 

It may not happen overnight, but it will happen, no?
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Reply #248 - Mar 23rd, 2023 at 10:08pm
 
They tried to bribe Kari, a mom. This is how they do it, guys.

A job, a big salary, a title, they tried to get her out of politics.

Anyhoo, she turned Fox down and plans to remain a stay-at-home-mom.

Do I hear an Amen?
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Reply #249 - Mar 23rd, 2023 at 10:35pm
 
Ithink this analysis sums it up???

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Then in 1998, a year before Trump’s divorce from Maples was finalized, he met Melania Knauss, a Slovenian model. They were engaged in 2004, married in 2005, and in 2006 she gave birth to their son, Barron.

Then with his months-old baby at home, Trump, then 60, allegedly had a sexual liaison with 27-year-old Stormy Daniels, the star of “The Witches of Breastwick” and “Porking with Pride 2”; around the same time, Trump allegedly had an affair with Karen McDougal, a former Playboy playmate.

Testifying under oath, then-National Enquirer publisher David Pecker admitted that “in concert” with the Trump campaign the tabloid purchased the rights to McDougal’s story for $150,000 without any intention of publishing it “to prevent it from influencing the election.”

Trump opted to cut out the middleman with Daniels and pay for Daniels’ silence directly, through Cohen. Unlike the National Enquirer’s “catch-and-kill” payment, there was nothing illegal about it.

Reports indicate that to make his case, Bragg has to show that by falsely recording the payment as a legal expense — typically a misdemeanor in New York — Trump committed a felony because it was in furtherance of another crime, disguising an illegal campaign donation.


Huh Huh Huh

https://triblive.com/opinion/jonah-goldberg-trumps-stormy-daniels-payoff-could-f...
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Reply #250 - Mar 24th, 2023 at 11:40am
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 8:26pm:
people are either at the cause/stimulus  (trump) or at the effect/response (matty fisk and gweg)

if you are at the effect, you have given away all your power to the person at the cause

as Stephen Covey points out in his book “The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People”, there’s a lot going on between the stimulus and the response. The stimulus could be what that other person does, or something they say, or the tone of voice in which they say it, or the look on their face.
In order for it to register as a stimulus at all, your mind has to interpret it as something threatening, provoking or guilt inducing, probably by matching it to the memories of previous bad experiences that it might remind you of. You have to evaluate the incoming sensory information in the light of your existing belief system. Maybe you have to tell yourself something about the stimulus that labels it as cheeky, insolent, aggressive, or inappropriate, before you get to feel the bad emotional response.
All this happens at an unconscious level, in a fraction of a second – and the more times you do it, the quicker it happens. Like anything else, you get better with practice – your brain forms new neural pathways which are widened and strengthened with every repetition, so the message to set off the response can whip along them faster and faster. You’re not consciously aware of this process. As a result, it really does feel like the stimulus is causing the next thing you’re aware of – the unresourceful emotional response.
The psychologist Viktor Frankl was imprisoned in Auschwitz and other concentration camps for five years. In that situation he saw the worst of humanity in the behaviour of the guards. Many of his fellow prisoners gave up, or acted as if they had abandoned all human feeling in the struggle to survive, as we would expect in such a terrible predicament.
But Frankl observed other prisoners who, despite being in the worst place in the world, were still able to find meaning in their lives and could still act with kindness and courage. What he saw of the best and worst in people in the camps inspired him to move away from Freud’s belief that the driving force of our actions is instincts and urges; instead, he came to believe that man’s deepest desire is to search for meaning and purpose. Later he wrote the great book ‘Man’s Search for Meaning’, in which he says “Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom.”


Thanks, Aquascoot. What do you think the stimulus was for this?

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THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE & FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. IT’S TIME!!! WE JUST CAN’T ALLOW THIS ANYMORE. THEY’RE KILLING OUR NATION AS WE SIT BACK & WATCH. WE MUST SAVE AMERICA! PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!


Let's do this as a multiple choice.

a) Melania looked at him funny over breakfast

b) Fox and Friends didn't gush hard enough when they discussed his case after the morning news bulletin

c) Rudy said he should issue a statement

d) He was having a bad hair day

e) All of the above

Yes, the big fella had had his shower, washed his hair and touched it up with Hair For Men Blonde. He was doing his trick with his styling brush and hair-dryer, but the hair-dryer dropped into the sink and gave him an electric shock. This made his hair stand up like that nasty picture the fake news took of him getting off Air Force One in Paris and he lost it, pushing and kicking his valet Carlo, who was standing by with his jacket and red silk tie. He gave up on Carlo, got out his phone, put on the caps and hate-Truth Socialed his revenge on the CORRUPT DEEP STATE ESTABLISHMENT!!!

When he was done, he sat down with Melania for breakfast. Rudy called. The big fella ignored it. Rudy's text came through: maybe we should put out a press release. The big fella fumed. That Ainsley Earhart bitch has a big mouth. He'd already told Tucker she should be fired, he'd speak to Rupert if he took his calls. Melania gave him a look as if to say, "who's fault's this?"
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Reply #251 - Mar 24th, 2023 at 11:48am
 
Before we hit 18 pages in this ridiculous topic I just want to ask this trivial question:

Has Trump been arrested yet?
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Reply #252 - Mar 24th, 2023 at 12:41pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 23rd, 2023 at 10:08pm:
They tried to bribe Kari, a mom. This is how they do it, guys.

A job, a big salary, a title, they tried to get her out of politics.

Anyhoo, she turned Fox down and plans to remain a stay-at-home-mom.

Do I hear an Amen?


Gotta feel sorry for her poor kids   Sad

I wonder if they're forced to wear old grey blankets to school   Undecided

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Reply #253 - Mar 24th, 2023 at 1:39pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 24th, 2023 at 11:48am:
Before we hit 18 pages in this ridiculous topic I just want to ask this trivial question:

Has Trump been arrested yet?


That's a question. Do you stand by your previous response, dear?

Lock it in for good?
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Reply #254 - Mar 24th, 2023 at 1:49pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 24th, 2023 at 1:39pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 24th, 2023 at 11:48am:
Before we hit 18 pages in this ridiculous topic I just want to ask this trivial question:

Has Trump been arrested yet?


That's a question. Do you stand by your previous response, dear?

Lock it in for good?


I’ll lock in my question. K?
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