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Re: Stand back and stand by
Reply #195 - Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:

I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

Huh

Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright. That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that. Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law. Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it. If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?

so he claimed the 130 k as a tax deduction?

when you are the big fella, and you are trying to make america great again, you have to stay in a good mood.

people are being sucked into your "vibration"
they are vibing with you and it has to be awesome

now if donny lets off a little steam with stormy and it puts him in a great place mentally for the next rally, then thats money well spent

in fact, i'm sure "real' americans wouldnt begrudge a guy who has done so much for them getting a bit of stress relief .

our very own ATO pay for staff to have a weekly massage

from out very own tax department

The call centre operators sit at their consoles for extended periods. To prevent injuries and relieve stress, our company has engaged a group to provide massages for the operators. The company pays for the massages. What is the tax treatment of these?

These arrangements are becoming more common in the workplace, especially in call centres and offices. The immediate issue is whether your company is entitled to claim a tax deduction for the amounts paid to the massage providers.

Generally speaking, amounts paid for the benefit and welfare of employees will be tax deductible (excluding certain forms of entertainment). Therefore, the amounts paid to the massage provider would be deductible

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Reply #196 - Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:33pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:

I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

Huh

Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright. That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that. Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law. Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it. If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?

so he claimed the 130 k as a tax deduction?

Illegally, eleven times.

That's a crime.

Moreover, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

That's at least twelve crimes he's gonna be busted for.

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Reply #197 - Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:35pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:00pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:

I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....

Huh

Mike got a concurrent three year sentence for that long bow, Phil. What makes more sense to you?

Mike was doing it out of the goodness of his heart? Or he was carrying out the boss' orders?

Mike has the whole deal on tape so it's a moot point.

The tape's not admissible as evidence because he didn't tell the boss he was taping, but we know.

Stormy's book may not be admissible either, but she knows.

Don't believe the hype. A grand jury heard the evidence and will vote to indict. That's the process. That's justice.

Mike testified before that jury, and he said the motive was all about the erection.

So, who to believe? Tucker Carlson?

Or the boss' own lawyer?

To prove Trump violated campaign finance laws the prosecution must prove that he did it to bolster his election campaign and keep it from the public....But was it the public or his family he was concerned about....Trump's lawyers will argue he paid off Stormy to hide the truth from his family because he knew Stormy would go for gold whilst Trump was in the limelight....Too murky to be prosecuted IMO???

Huh

Murky? Maybe. Maybe not.

But the eleven payments aren't - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.

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Reply #198 - Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:

I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

Huh

Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright. That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that. Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law. Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it. If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?

Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

Huh

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Reply #200 - Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:53pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:

I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

Huh

Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright. That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that. Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law. Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it. If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?

Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

Huh

The eleven payments aren't murky - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.

Whether he did it to help his campaign or hide it from his idiot wife is irrelevant - that's a separate crime.

For the sake of the argument, let's say his dopey lawyers win that one.

But he's guilty of recording the payments as legitimate legal expenses - eleven times.

He can't get out of that one - it's rock solid.

The only question is: will he be charged for those eleven crimes?

All the idiot had to do was record them as 'hush money', and he would have been in the clear.

It's not illegal to pay porn stars to keep quiet.

But, because of his greed, he recorded them as legal expenses in order to get the tax deduction.

Big mistake.

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Re: Stand back and stand by
Reply #201 - Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 7:00pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:00pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:

I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....

Huh

Mike got a concurrent three year sentence for that long bow, Phil. What makes more sense to you?

Mike was doing it out of the goodness of his heart? Or he was carrying out the boss' orders?

Mike has the whole deal on tape so it's a moot point.

The tape's not admissible as evidence because he didn't tell the boss he was taping, but we know.

Stormy's book may not be admissible either, but she knows.

Don't believe the hype. A grand jury heard the evidence and will vote to indict. That's the process. That's justice.

Mike testified before that jury, and he said the motive was all about the erection.

So, who to believe? Tucker Carlson?

Or the boss' own lawyer?

To prove Trump violated campaign finance laws the prosecution must prove that he did it to bolster his election campaign and keep it from the public....But was it the public or his family he was concerned about....Trump's lawyers will argue he paid off Stormy to hide the truth from his family because he knew Stormy would go for gold whilst Trump was in the limelight....Too murky to be prosecuted IMO???

Huh

In that case, Mike needs a pardon ASAP, dear. Mike spent two years cooperating with the DA, including two days in court being grilled by prosecutors and a grand jury. He submitted the tapes, the paper trail and the evidence to prove intent.

Hell, he was the big fella's lawyer. When does a prosecutor get a witness like that?

If there's even a skerrick of doubt charges against an ex-prez won't stick, it'll be a hell of an anti-climax for all those Proud Boys getting ready to go wild in NYC.

This case is only the teaser. The big one's being investigated by the feds. 14,000 classified government records in an unlocked basement in Mar a Lago. Witness tampering. Incitement to riot.

They just keep building up. Last week, we saw 8 mil worth of laundered Russian funds funnelled through a Caribbean porn bank. Prosecutors in Georgia are sitting on election tampering.

Just think, all they had on Nixon was a burglary cover-up. They've got enough on Trump to send him to the Butner Federal Correctional Centre for the rest of his short days, but only when he's finished serving the three year stretch Mike did in the Met for carrying out the boss' orders.

Believe it.

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Reply #202 - Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 7:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:53pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:

I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

Huh

Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright. That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that. Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law. Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it. If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?

Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

Huh

The eleven payments aren't murky - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.

Whether he did it to help his campaign or hide it from his idiot wife is irrelevant - that's a separate crime.

For the sake of the argument, let's say his dopey lawyers win that one.

But he's guilty of recording the payments as legitimate legal expenses - eleven times.

He can't get out of that one - it's rock solid.

The only question is: will he be charged for those eleven crimes?

All the idiot had to do was record them as 'hush money', and he would have been in the clear.

It's not illegal to pay porn stars to keep quiet.

But, because of his greed, he recorded them as legal expenses in order to get the tax deduction.

Big mistake.

Or was it one crime because it was seperated only too disguise it's true purpose....Trump did not want his family too know it was hush money....How can anyone say they know what Trump was thinking???

Huh

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Reply #203 - Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 7:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:53pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:

I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

Huh

Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright. That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that. Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law. Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it. If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?

Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

Huh

The eleven payments aren't murky - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.

Whether he did it to help his campaign or hide it from his idiot wife is irrelevant - that's a separate crime.

For the sake of the argument, let's say his dopey lawyers win that one.

But he's guilty of recording the payments as legitimate legal expenses - eleven times.

He can't get out of that one - it's rock solid.

The only question is: will he be charged for those eleven crimes?

All the idiot had to do was record them as 'hush money', and he would have been in the clear.

It's not illegal to pay porn stars to keep quiet.

But, because of his greed, he recorded them as legal expenses in order to get the tax deduction.

Big mistake.

That's a misdemeanor, Greggery. Maybe a felony, depending on how the DA feels. The big boys come out to play when he's charged for hiding campaign funds. That's electoral crime, something taken quite seriously in America.

You might recall the big fella threatening to lock up or deport millions of illegal voters. You might recall him referring to various politicians as "crooked" and threatening to lock them up too. You may recall a certain campaign rally chant, often started by the big fella's warm-up act, Mike Flynn, who would have done time himself if the big fella didnt pardon him.

Electoral fraud is taken quite seriously in the US of A, and there is no greater defender of electoral integrity than Mr Donald J Trump, prez.

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Reply #204 - Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 7:26pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 7:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:53pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:

I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

Huh

Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright. That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that. Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law. Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it. If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?

Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

Huh

The eleven payments aren't murky - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.

Whether he did it to help his campaign or hide it from his idiot wife is irrelevant - that's a separate crime.

For the sake of the argument, let's say his dopey lawyers win that one.

But he's guilty of recording the payments as legitimate legal expenses - eleven times.

He can't get out of that one - it's rock solid.

The only question is: will he be charged for those eleven crimes?

All the idiot had to do was record them as 'hush money', and he would have been in the clear.

It's not illegal to pay porn stars to keep quiet.

But, because of his greed, he recorded them as legal expenses in order to get the tax deduction.

Big mistake.

Or was it one crime because it was seperated only too disguise it's true purpose....Trump did not want his family too know it was hush money....How can anyone say they know what Trump was thinking???

Huh

Because his lawyer's going to be on the stand, telling us. Mike also has documents, presumably, or the New York DA wouldn't be so rash as to call a grand jury to investigate an American prez.

A lot in this case will rely on what the judge rules as admissible as evidence. You can bet your Trump gold banknotes Dear Leader's lawyers will be arguing legal privilege for much of it - not too helpful when he's no longer Dear Leader's lawyer, lost his license to practice and did three years for carrying out Dear Leader's orders, but no doubt they'll try.

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Reply #205 - Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 7:26pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 7:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:53pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 6:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 5:46pm:

I think paying off someone to remain silent about an affair is between them and should not be any business of the DOJ....Claiming the payment is a campaign violation is drawing a long bow....Trump more than likely paid off Stormy to keep it from Melania and his adult children....Who would trust Stormy Daniels not to take advantage of a payday, In fact that is exactly what she did.....I hope Stormy paid the money back....Trump is an immoral arsehole but he is not guilty of a crime!!!

Huh

Oh, he's guilty of a crime alright. That's absolutely indisputable.

Paying her off isn't the crime - there's absolutely nothing illegal about that. Highly immoral, but in no way illegal.

However, when he made eleven payments to his lawyer to pay back the $130,000 and claimed them as legitimate legal expenses he broke the law. Pure and simple.

And, the payment itself violated state campaign finance law since it was effectively an illegal secret donation to boost his campaign.

Moreover, his lawyer went to prison for it. If it's not a crime, why did his lawyer go to jail?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump broke the law - it's already been proven in his lawyer's court case.

The only question now is: will he be charged for his crimes?

Trumps's lawyers will argue he claimed campaign expences to hide the truth from his family....He could not say it was for a root he had with a porn star....The only problem with this defence is he would have to admit he rooted Stormy after denying it ever happened....Too murky to prosecute IMO???

Huh

The eleven payments aren't murky - he illegally recorded them as legitimate legal expenses.

That's a crime, and he committed it eleven times.

There's absolutely nothing murky about that.

Whether he did it to help his campaign or hide it from his idiot wife is irrelevant - that's a separate crime.

For the sake of the argument, let's say his dopey lawyers win that one.

But he's guilty of recording the payments as legitimate legal expenses - eleven times.

He can't get out of that one - it's rock solid.

The only question is: will he be charged for those eleven crimes?

All the idiot had to do was record them as 'hush money', and he would have been in the clear.

It's not illegal to pay porn stars to keep quiet.

But, because of his greed, he recorded them as legal expenses in order to get the tax deduction.

Big mistake.

Or was it one crime because it was separated only to disguise it's true purpose....Trump did not want his family to know it was hush money....How can anyone say they know what Trump was thinking???

Huh

Phil, you're confusing two different crimes (I know it's hard with Trump, as he's committed so many).

Forget about why he wanted to keep Stormy quiet - let's just all agree that he did it because of his family and that it had absolutely nothing to do with his presidential campaign.

Let's just put that aside, and look at the payments he made to his lawyer.

In fact, to make it simpler, let's just say - for the sake of the argument - that the eleven payments he made to his lawyer were reimbursements for apples that the lawyer had bought for Trump.

Don asked the lawyer to buy him some apples, and the bill came to $130,000 (these are particularly nice apples).

Now, when Don paid back the lawyer in eleven instalments, he recorded all eleven payments as 'legal expenses'.

That's a lie, and it's a crime.

At the end of the day the fruit vendor ended up with $130,000 - not the lawyer. Paying fruit vendors isn't a legal expense.

Thus, Trump has committed at least eleven crimes.

Why he bought the apples is irrelevant in regards to these particular crimes.

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Reply #206 - Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 8:08pm

That may be so, Greggery. Perhaps Mike, licensed attorney, pleaded guilty to campaign finance charges when he was really trying to save the big fella's marriage.

It is possible. And perhaps Mike acted to shut up Karen McDougal, then hawking her story to the tabloids in 2016, when Mr Trump was coincidentally running for prez.

And perhaps Mike bought her story from fellow Republicans in the National Enquirer, who just happened to think it would be nice for everybody if Mr Trump became prez.

And perhaps Stormy pops up with another National Enquirer expose, and Mr Trump's friends offer to sell him that one too. Perhaps they do it all to stop Melania finding out the frightful news that her husband, ageing celebrity playboy and serial philanderer, was having it off with every piece of fluff he could get his hands on.

It is possible, but do you know?

Perhaps Mike and the boys at American Media Inc were doing it all to make America great again. I mean, that's what Mike said, right? Do it for democracy.

Yes, they said. It would be nice to have a guy like Mr Trump in the White House, no? All good, they said, we'll hush it up. What Melania doesn't know won't hurt her.

So I ask you this, do you really think there's any possibility that Mr Trump, Mike and their Republican cronies pulled stories and organised non-disclosure agreements and paid hundreds of thousands in undisclosed hush-money payments for any other reason than getting Dear Leader erected?

Do you think Dear Leader did it all to save Melania's feelings? Mike's prosecutors didn't think so.

You?

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Reply #207 - Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 8:23pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 8:08pm:

That may be so, Greggery. Perhaps Mike, licensed attorney, pleaded guilty to campaign finance charges when he was really trying to save the big fella's marriage.

It is possible. And perhaps Mike acted to shut up Karen McDougal, then hawking her story to the tabloids in 2016, when Mr Trump was coincidentally running for prez.

And perhaps Mike bought her story from fellow Republicans in the National Enquirer, who just happened to think it would be nice for everybody if Mr Trump became prez.

And perhaps Stormy pops up with another National Enquirer expose, and Mr Trump's friends offer to sell him that one too. Perhaps they do it all to stop Melania finding out the frightful news that her husband, ageing celebrity playboy and serial philanderer, was having it off with every piece of fluff he could get his hands on.

It is possible, but do you know?

Perhaps Mike and the boys at American Media Inc were doing it all to make America great again. I mean, that's what Mike said, right? Do it for democracy.

Yes, they said. It would be nice to have a guy like Mr Trump in the White House, no? All good, they said, we'll hush it up. What Melania doesn't know won't hurt her.

So I ask you this, do you really think there's any possibility that Mr Trump, Mike and their Republican cronies pulled stories and organised non-disclosure agreements and paid hundreds of thousands in undisclosed hush-money payments for any other reason than getting Dear Leader erected?

Do you think Dear Leader did it all to save Melania's feelings? Mike's prosecutors didn't think so.

You?

Absolutely.

He treats his wives with the utmost respect.

"He rips off her clothes and unzips his pants. Then he jams his penis inside of her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified. This is not lovemaking. This is not romantic sex. It is a violent assault. She later describes what The Donald is doing to her in no uncertain terms. According to the versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, 'He raped me.' "

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Re: Stand back and stand by
Reply #208 - Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 8:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 8:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 8:08pm:

That may be so, Greggery. Perhaps Mike, licensed attorney, pleaded guilty to campaign finance charges when he was really trying to save the big fella's marriage.

It is possible. And perhaps Mike acted to shut up Karen McDougal, then hawking her story to the tabloids in 2016, when Mr Trump was coincidentally running for prez.

And perhaps Mike bought her story from fellow Republicans in the National Enquirer, who just happened to think it would be nice for everybody if Mr Trump became prez.

And perhaps Stormy pops up with another National Enquirer expose, and Mr Trump's friends offer to sell him that one too. Perhaps they do it all to stop Melania finding out the frightful news that her husband, ageing celebrity playboy and serial philanderer, was having it off with every piece of fluff he could get his hands on.

It is possible, but do you know?

Perhaps Mike and the boys at American Media Inc were doing it all to make America great again. I mean, that's what Mike said, right? Do it for democracy.

Yes, they said. It would be nice to have a guy like Mr Trump in the White House, no? All good, they said, we'll hush it up. What Melania doesn't know won't hurt her.

So I ask you this, do you really think there's any possibility that Mr Trump, Mike and their Republican cronies pulled stories and organised non-disclosure agreements and paid hundreds of thousands in undisclosed hush-money payments for any other reason than getting Dear Leader erected?

Do you think Dear Leader did it all to save Melania's feelings? Mike's prosecutors didn't think so.

You?

Absolutely.

He treats his wives with the utmost respect.

[url]https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/29/17/60845681-11062403-image-a-
33_1659112760695.jpg[/url]

"He rips off her clothes and unzips his pants. Then he jams his penis inside of her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified. This is not lovemaking. This is not romantic sex. It is a violent assault. She later describes what The Donald is doing to her in no uncertain terms. According to the versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, 'He raped me.' "

Manhattan prosecutors can use that as evidence. It's already been tendered in the civil courts.

It's perfectly admissible. Alvin Bragg's going to have some fun with this one, no?

Sure, it'll probably be a closed court, but we'll have the coloured pencil sketches to go with the testimony all over the net for the next 3 years.

Enjoy!

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Re: Stand back and stand by
Reply #209 - Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 8:49pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 8:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 8:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 8:08pm:

That may be so, Greggery. Perhaps Mike, licensed attorney, pleaded guilty to campaign finance charges when he was really trying to save the big fella's marriage.

It is possible. And perhaps Mike acted to shut up Karen McDougal, then hawking her story to the tabloids in 2016, when Mr Trump was coincidentally running for prez.

And perhaps Mike bought her story from fellow Republicans in the National Enquirer, who just happened to think it would be nice for everybody if Mr Trump became prez.

And perhaps Stormy pops up with another National Enquirer expose, and Mr Trump's friends offer to sell him that one too. Perhaps they do it all to stop Melania finding out the frightful news that her husband, ageing celebrity playboy and serial philanderer, was having it off with every piece of fluff he could get his hands on.

It is possible, but do you know?

Perhaps Mike and the boys at American Media Inc were doing it all to make America great again. I mean, that's what Mike said, right? Do it for democracy.

Yes, they said. It would be nice to have a guy like Mr Trump in the White House, no? All good, they said, we'll hush it up. What Melania doesn't know won't hurt her.

So I ask you this, do you really think there's any possibility that Mr Trump, Mike and their Republican cronies pulled stories and organised non-disclosure agreements and paid hundreds of thousands in undisclosed hush-money payments for any other reason than getting Dear Leader erected?

Do you think Dear Leader did it all to save Melania's feelings? Mike's prosecutors didn't think so.

You?

Absolutely.

He treats his wives with the utmost respect.

[url]https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/29/17/60845681-11062403-image-a-
33_1659112760695.jpg[/url]

"He rips off her clothes and unzips his pants. Then he jams his penis inside of her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified. This is not lovemaking. This is not romantic sex. It is a violent assault. She later describes what The Donald is doing to her in no uncertain terms. According to the versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, 'He raped me.' "

Manhattan prosecutors can use that as evidence. It's already been tendered in the civil courts.

It's perfectly admissible. Alvin Bragg's going to have some fun with this one, no?

Sure, it'll probably be a closed court, but we'll have the coloured pencil sketches to go with the testimony all over the net for the next 3 years.

Enjoy!

Oh, I will

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