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Reply #15 - Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:35am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 9:12am:
....Rudi is either stupid or deliberately lying to protect Donald Trump!!!


He's both.

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Reply #16 - Mar 19th, 2023 at 1:43pm
 
waggawoody wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:33am:
Rudy Giuliani: Trump Hunt a 'Violation of Due Process'


The potential indictment of former President Donald Trump is eventually "going to be dismissed" and the attempt by George Soros-backed Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg is going to backfire, according to former Trump personal attorney Rudy Giuliani.

"Sometimes the prosecution can stink so bad, it just has to be dismissed; basically it's a violation of due process — to be a little more legal about it," Giuliani said.

"Prosecutors have come out against this, and said, 'Hey, don't do this: This will get him elected president,'" Giuliani added. "This is such a miscarriage of justice, it'll get him elected president."

Giuliani denounced the restarted effort of the "zombie" case to find a crime in Trump's hush-money payment to Stormy Daniels, noting the case has been dropped federally and is a mere misdemeanor locally in New York City.

"Well, this would be the final affirmation that this very storied, illustrious district attorney's office has become nothing more than a steep place in an authoritarian state," Giuliani said. "This is a completely political prosecution. It has zero to do with the law — zero.

"This is not a violation of any law, anywhere," Giuliani continued. "First of all, it was investigated by the U.S. attorney's office; and the reason they dropped this case, among others is they declared [former Trump attorney Michael] Cohen completely incredible. They wouldn't support him in front of a federal court."

Giuliani noted Cohen has been convicted and is a known "liar," so using him in the case imperils it.

"I would guarantee you, you give me two hours with this guy on the witness stand and he'll come off crying and wetting his pants," Giuliani said. "He is not just the usual liar. He's the kind of liar that's declared by a federal prosecutor: You can't use him; he's toxic.

"He's toxic not only to the case but to the reputation of the district attorney's office."

Ultimately, the indictment of Trump by Bragg is an indictment of the Democratic Party rule in America, Giuliani concluded.

"This is a great illustration of what's wrong with Biden's Democrat Party," he said. "Bragg isn't just in New York. Soros put about 50 of these people all over America. These are people who dismissed all the cases against the rioters who kill people."


The reason the feds didn't press charges is Dear Leader was in the White House at the time.

Mike lied when defending his boss, Mr Trump. Dear Leader admitted he repaid said hush money back to Mike.

Election fraud is not a misdemeanour. Mike did three years for carrying out his boss' orders.

The only one potentially wetting his pants on the witness stand is your Dear Leader, who refused to appear before the grand jury.

Giuliani can't cross examine any witnesses on the stand. He's been disbarred by the New York bar association for pressing false claims.

It would be a violation of due process if New York did not charge Mr Trump. His employee has done time for doing his bidding.

Corrupt, third world countries are traditionally known for letting the rich and powerful off - not New York. They're going after the big fish.

Your Dear Leader crying foul and playing the victim is the real political process at play here. He even claims it will get him elected prez.

A grand jury will make the decision to indict, not prosecutors. That's why your Dear Leader's stewing until Tuesday, when a jury of Mr Trump's peers will make the call.

The only defense Mr Trump has is whether the bribes he made were motivated by winning the election or saving his marriage. The case will come down to this, not the political bias of prosecutors, who are merely doing their job of prosecuting crime.

You'll note Giuliani is not claiming any innocence on behalf of his client. If we're talking lies,

Trump will go down. His legal team are already planning their appeal to a friendly court.

Trump, as is his bent, is hoping to create as much social unrest out of this as he can. Get him elected prez?

How many mainstream Republicans are going to select a candidate facing jail time?

That's a question. The Trump base most certainly will. The question for the GOP is how many of its voters still believe in the rule of law.

You?

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Reply #17 - Mar 19th, 2023 at 2:20pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 1:43pm:
waggawoody wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:33am:
Rudy Giuliani: Trump Hunt a 'Violation of Due Process'


The potential indictment of former President Donald Trump is eventually "going to be dismissed" and the attempt by George Soros-backed Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg is going to backfire, according to former Trump personal attorney Rudy Giuliani.

"Sometimes the prosecution can stink so bad, it just has to be dismissed; basically it's a violation of due process — to be a little more legal about it," Giuliani said.

"Prosecutors have come out against this, and said, 'Hey, don't do this: This will get him elected president,'" Giuliani added. "This is such a miscarriage of justice, it'll get him elected president."

Giuliani denounced the restarted effort of the "zombie" case to find a crime in Trump's hush-money payment to Stormy Daniels, noting the case has been dropped federally and is a mere misdemeanor locally in New York City.

"Well, this would be the final affirmation that this very storied, illustrious district attorney's office has become nothing more than a steep place in an authoritarian state," Giuliani said. "This is a completely political prosecution. It has zero to do with the law — zero.

"This is not a violation of any law, anywhere," Giuliani continued. "First of all, it was investigated by the U.S. attorney's office; and the reason they dropped this case, among others is they declared [former Trump attorney Michael] Cohen completely incredible. They wouldn't support him in front of a federal court."

Giuliani noted Cohen has been convicted and is a known "liar," so using him in the case imperils it.

"I would guarantee you, you give me two hours with this guy on the witness stand and he'll come off crying and wetting his pants," Giuliani said. "He is not just the usual liar. He's the kind of liar that's declared by a federal prosecutor: You can't use him; he's toxic.

"He's toxic not only to the case but to the reputation of the district attorney's office."

Ultimately, the indictment of Trump by Bragg is an indictment of the Democratic Party rule in America, Giuliani concluded.

"This is a great illustration of what's wrong with Biden's Democrat Party," he said. "Bragg isn't just in New York. Soros put about 50 of these people all over America. These are people who dismissed all the cases against the rioters who kill people."


The reason the feds didn't press charges is Dear Leader was in the White House at the time.

Mike lied when defending his boss, Mr Trump. Dear Leader admitted he repaid said hush money back to Mike.

Election fraud is not a misdemeanour. Mike did three years for carrying out his boss' orders.

The only one potentially wetting his pants on the witness stand is your Dear Leader, who refused to appear before the grand jury.

Giuliani can't cross examine any witnesses on the stand. He's been disbarred by the New York bar association for pressing false claims.

It would be a violation of due process if New York did not charge Mr Trump. His employee has done time for doing his bidding.

Corrupt, third world countries are traditionally known for letting the rich and powerful off - not New York. They're going after the big fish.

Your Dear Leader crying foul and playing the victim is the real political process at play here. He even claims it will get him elected prez.

A grand jury will make the decision to indict, not prosecutors. That's why your Dear Leader's stewing until Tuesday, when a jury of Mr Trump's peers will make the call.

The only defense Mr Trump has is whether the bribes he made were motivated by winning the election or saving his marriage. The case will come down to this, not the political bias of prosecutors, who are merely doing their job of prosecuting crime.

You'll note Giuliani is not claiming any innocence on behalf of his client. If we're talking lies,

Trump will go down. His legal team are already planning their appeal to a friendly court.

Trump, as is his bent, is hoping to create as much social unrest out of this as he can. Get him elected prez?

How many mainstream Republicans are going to select a candidate facing jail time?

That's a question. The Trump base most certainly will. The question for the GOP is how many of its voters still believe in the rule of law.

You?



It's little wonder that Rudy - "I thought it was the Four Seasons Hotel?" - Giuliani has been barred from practising law in New York.

He has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.

Looking forward to the perp walk   Smiley
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Reply #18 - Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:05pm
 
It'll be a most restrained perp-walk, Greggery.

Dear Leader will get out of a black SUV, surrounded by Secret Service agents, and head in the back door for processing.

Oh, he'll threaten a big speech on the front steps of the Manhattan DA's office, but his lawyers will prevent him from putting his foot in his mouth.

Alas, Bonfire of the Vanities this will not be. Dear Leader will get a closed court and a lengthy appeals process. His lawyers will be fighting these charges well after the 2024 erection.

What they'll do, however, is put the heat on Georgia to press their charges. Then there's the federal case. Dear Leader will be in courtrooms for the rest of his years.

How this plays is a question for the GOP. How are the primary debates going to go with a candidate in in criminal court? Will the candidates pull their punches? Trump's future is political.

A comeback under conditions like this is looking more and more unlikely. I can't see the independents voting in a candidate facing serious jail time, but I can't see them voting in an 80 year old either. The Dems need to pave the way for some new blood.

If this happens, Dear Leader will look just like the aging, celebrity playboy criminal we've always known he is. If it doesn't, 2024 will just be a battle of the geriatrics.
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Reply #19 - Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm
 
Quote:
Clinton Settles Paula Jones Lawsuit for $850,000


President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit

After more than 4 1/2 years of scorched-earth legal warfare, Clinton and Jones brought a sudden end to the case with a four-page deal in which he acknowledged no wrongdoing and offered no apology.

"The president has decided he is not prepared to spend one more hour on this matter," Bennett said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jones1114...


Bubba didn't want to spend one more hour so he paid her off with $850K
Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

Those with TDS are showing everyone they need professional help.

The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.

How did this work out for Stormy?

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Reply #20 - Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:27pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.



Because he was a sitting President.

But now, the bloated, orange, alleged child rapist is no longer a sitting President.

Moreover, his lawyer was convicted of the same offence and went to prison for it.

How do you think this will turn out for the failed ex-president?   Wink
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Reply #21 - Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:28pm
 
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Reply #22 - Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:29pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.




Becasue he was a sitting President.

But now, the bloated, orange, alleged child rapist is no longer a sitting President.

Moreover, his lawyer was convicted of the same offence and went to prison for it.

How do you think this will turn out for the failed ex-president?   Wink
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Reply #23 - Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:46pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
Quote:
Clinton Settles Paula Jones Lawsuit for $850,000


President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit

After more than 4 1/2 years of scorched-earth legal warfare, Clinton and Jones brought a sudden end to the case with a four-page deal in which he acknowledged no wrongdoing and offered no apology.

"The president has decided he is not prepared to spend one more hour on this matter," Bennett said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jones1114...


Bubba didn't want to spend one more hour so he paid her off with $850K
Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

Those with TDS are showing everyone they need professional help.

The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.

How did this work out for Stormy?



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Reply #24 - Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:51pm
 
the big fella would be loving the prospect.

he joins esteemed company

ghandi
mandela
johny cash
muhamed ali
50 cent

it all adds to the mythology of this extraordinary man

gweg and matty look on in awe


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Reply #25 - Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:02pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:51pm:
the big fella would be loving the prospect.

he joins esteemed company

ghandi
mandela
johny cash
muhamed ali
50 cent[/media]


All of whom porked a porn star while their wives were 8 months pregnant, paid her $150,000 to shut her up, then watched on as their lawyers did three years for handing over the cash.

You're right, dear, the big fella's in esteemed company there. He was so kind to his lawyer for taking the rap too. I believe Mike was offered counselling.

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Reply #26 - Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:04pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:46pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
Quote:
Clinton Settles Paula Jones Lawsuit for $850,000


President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit

After more than 4 1/2 years of scorched-earth legal warfare, Clinton and Jones brought a sudden end to the case with a four-page deal in which he acknowledged no wrongdoing and offered no apology.

"The president has decided he is not prepared to spend one more hour on this matter," Bennett said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jones1114...


Bubba didn't want to spend one more hour so he paid her off with $850K
Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

Those with TDS are showing everyone they need professional help.

The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.

How did this work out for Stormy?





Good point, Baron. Stormy should be paying Mr Trump, no?
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Reply #27 - Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:08pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:04pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:46pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
Quote:
Clinton Settles Paula Jones Lawsuit for $850,000


President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit

After more than 4 1/2 years of scorched-earth legal warfare, Clinton and Jones brought a sudden end to the case with a four-page deal in which he acknowledged no wrongdoing and offered no apology.

"The president has decided he is not prepared to spend one more hour on this matter," Bennett said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jones1114...


Bubba didn't want to spend one more hour so he paid her off with $850K
Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

Those with TDS are showing everyone they need professional help.

The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.

How did this work out for Stormy?





Good point, Baron. Stormy should be paying Mr Trump, no?


Stormy lost the defamtion case then she also lost the appeal.


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Reply #28 - Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:09pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:29pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.




Becasue he was a sitting President.

But now, the bloated, orange, alleged child rapist is no longer a sitting President.

Moreover, his lawyer was convicted of the same offence and went to prison for it.

How do you think this will turn out for the failed ex-president?   Wink


Baron says he'll make a buck out of it, Greggery, and rightly so.

So unfair of Stormy to write a book about Mr Trump's dick. The woman should pay for that. And Mr Trump?

He should be put back in the White House and do it all again.

Baron's always stood up for the rule of law, dear.
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Reply #29 - Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:12pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:08pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 4:04pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:46pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:21pm:
Quote:
Clinton Settles Paula Jones Lawsuit for $850,000


President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit

After more than 4 1/2 years of scorched-earth legal warfare, Clinton and Jones brought a sudden end to the case with a four-page deal in which he acknowledged no wrongdoing and offered no apology.

"The president has decided he is not prepared to spend one more hour on this matter," Bennett said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jones1114...


Bubba didn't want to spend one more hour so he paid her off with $850K
Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

Those with TDS are showing everyone they need professional help.

The Feds declined to prosecute Trump on this.

How did this work out for Stormy?





Good point, Baron. Stormy should be paying Mr Trump, no?


Stormy lost the defamtion case then she also lost the appeal.




That's right. She had a non-disclosure agreement, no?

You're a real stickler for the rules, Baron. If there's one thing you won't abide, it's illegality of any kind. You stand for due process, truth, justice and the American way.

Mr Trump deserves his day in court, no?
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