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Re: The BigPharma War: Patents vs. Patients
Reply #30 - Mar 15th, 2023 at 11:50am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 1:43am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 14th, 2023 at 7:49am:
That's because most of the times I don't waste my time reading your garbage and that is exactly what it is. You're just a big pharma shill who is on the wrong side of history. You probably even get paid to write this crap defending the indefensible.

And I have plenty of comebacks for you Geoff. How's this for a sampler...


I'm not actually sure as to why you posted this...

https://i.postimg.cc/rsPZ0Jf0/Screenshot-2023-03-15-at-02-26-16-photo-2023-03-14...

Her father wasn't admitted to hospital until two months after
he was vaccinated, and was already infected with COVID.  So
it's the virus that's knocked him out, not the vaccine—as he'd
already had four doses unremarkably.


And a word of advice mate;  you may actually learn something
from my comments if you follow through the data and the links
I post as I never link to non-accredited scientific sites.   Unlike
you and your fraidy cat peers, I don't take any notice of the
conspiracy sites that seem to comprise your entire knowledge
base—if I can call it that LOL.

And I'll say it again;  you never respond to my claims with any
accredited medical facts and figures.  Your every riposte seems
to be no more than childish insults and silly memes.

Responding to your posts has me feeling as though I'm debating
string theory with my cat!

        Wink



Seems not so well protected with 4 doses and then still got COVID and a 5th booster….
What comes to mind… nothing exceeds like excess and eventually these continuous jabs will catch up… sounds like his immune system has been compromised.

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Re: The BigPharma War: Patents vs. Patients
Reply #31 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:19pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 7:19am:
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 1:43am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 14th, 2023 at 7:49am:
That's because most of the times I don't waste my time reading your garbage and that is exactly what it is. You're just a big pharma shill who is on the wrong side of history. You probably even get paid to write this crap defending the indefensible.

And I have plenty of comebacks for you Geoff. How's this for a sampler...


I'm not actually sure as to why you posted this...

https://i.postimg.cc/rsPZ0Jf0/Screenshot-2023-03-15-at-02-26-16-photo-2023-03-14...

Her father wasn't admitted to hospital until two months after
he was vaccinated, and was already infected with COVID.  So
it's the virus that's knocked him out, not the vaccine—as he'd
already had four doses unremarkably.

And a word of advice mate;  you may actually learn something
from my comments if you follow through the data and the links
I post as I never link to non-accredited scientific sites.   Unlike
you and your fraidy cat peers, I don't take any notice of the
conspiracy sites that seem to comprise your entire knowledge
base—if I can call it that LOL.

And I'll say it again;  you never respond to my claims with any
accredited medical facts and figures.  Your every riposte seems
to be no more than childish insults and silly memes.

Responding to your posts has me feeling as though I'm debating
string theory with my cat!

        Wink



I do. I represent the blue line and you represent the green line. Take the ratio of the two if it makes you feel better Wink


LOL... this response gets funnier by the day.   You've posted this
graph multiple times now, but it still doesn't change the actuality
of the data it represents.  And it still doesn't mean what you think
it means.

...

I dunno whether or not you're just taking the piss outa me, or
whether you seriously think that more vaccinated people are in
hospital than unvaccinated—which of course they're not.

According to the Australian Academy of Science, you may wonder why
we’re seeing reports of more vaccinated than unvaccinated people in
hospital, in intensive care units (ICU), or dying from COVID.

It’s because so many people are vaccinated that even a small percentage
of vaccinated people getting sick ends up being a larger number as a
proportion of all people sick from COVID
.     This is known as a "high
vaccination rates paradox".

The chances of being in an ICU bed if you’re unvaccinated is
60 per 1 million
people, compared with 8 per 1
million
people who have two or more doses of the vaccine.


Unvaccinated people are five to eight times MORE likely
to end up in ICU than those who are vaccinated.


Other countries are seeing similar results. In the United Kingdom, a
study looking at cases of the Omicron variant found that unvaccinated
adults are up to eight times more likely to be hospitalised for COVID than
those who have been vaccinated.

—These are the cold, hard facts drawn from numerous medical studies.
   You might like to deny the figures, but if you do, then it just reinforces
   your head-in-the-sand attitude.                  


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Re: The BigPharma War: Patents vs. Patients
Reply #32 - Mar 17th, 2023 at 12:05am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:19pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 7:19am:
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 1:43am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 14th, 2023 at 7:49am:
That's because most of the times I don't waste my time reading your garbage and that is exactly what it is. You're just a big pharma shill who is on the wrong side of history. You probably even get paid to write this crap defending the indefensible.

And I have plenty of comebacks for you Geoff. How's this for a sampler...


I'm not actually sure as to why you posted this...

https://i.postimg.cc/rsPZ0Jf0/Screenshot-2023-03-15-at-02-26-16-photo-2023-03-14...

Her father wasn't admitted to hospital until two months after
he was vaccinated, and was already infected with COVID.  So
it's the virus that's knocked him out, not the vaccine—as he'd
already had four doses unremarkably.

And a word of advice mate;  you may actually learn something
from my comments if you follow through the data and the links
I post as I never link to non-accredited scientific sites.   Unlike
you and your fraidy cat peers, I don't take any notice of the
conspiracy sites that seem to comprise your entire knowledge
base—if I can call it that LOL.

And I'll say it again;  you never respond to my claims with any
accredited medical facts and figures.  Your every riposte seems
to be no more than childish insults and silly memes.

Responding to your posts has me feeling as though I'm debating
string theory with my cat!

        Wink



I do. I represent the blue line and you represent the green line. Take the ratio of the two if it makes you feel better Wink


LOL... this response gets funnier by the day.   You've posted this
graph multiple times now, but it still doesn't change the actuality
of the data it represents.  And it still doesn't mean what you think
it means.

https://i.postimg.cc/7hKzvQ36/Screenshot-2023-03-16-at-23-51-05-NSWHealth-Survei...

I dunno whether or not you're just taking the piss outa me, or
whether you seriously think that more vaccinated people are in
hospital than unvaccinated—which of course they're not.

According to the Australian Academy of Science, you may wonder why
we’re seeing reports of more vaccinated than unvaccinated people in
hospital, in intensive care units (ICU), or dying from COVID.
          


The AA of Science says they use NSW data.

NSW current data is linked here which clearly shows the unvaxxed are doing far better confirming nails graph is correct. Did you notice that graph has rates?
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1668373929/29#29

Your AAS which you haven't linked says this
Quote:
For example, in April 2022, adults who had received fewer than two vaccines made up 5 per cent of all people in NSW,


When we look at their data source for this at NSW health we get this
Quote:
Vaccination data for NSW sourced from COVID Live,


We know hospital-ICU data is for all ages yet dishonest people like you ignore all ages when quoting vax numbers.

Why is there a discrepancy with AAS claiming 95% vaxxed when the source they quote says 83.4% vaxxed with 2 shots?

Current NSW data up to when they stopped reporting vax status also shows your AAS bullshit doesn't add up.

Your AAS crap doesn't pass any review it's garbage they can't even get vax rates right which impacts rates.


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Re: The BigPharma War: Patents vs. Patients
Reply #33 - Mar 18th, 2023 at 1:21am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 12:05am:
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:19pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 7:19am:
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 1:43am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 14th, 2023 at 7:49am:
That's because most of the times I don't waste my time reading your garbage and that is exactly what it is. You're just a big pharma shill who is on the wrong side of history. You probably even get paid to write this crap defending the indefensible.

And I have plenty of comebacks for you Geoff. How's this for a sampler...


I'm not actually sure as to why you posted this...

https://i.postimg.cc/rsPZ0Jf0/Screenshot-2023-03-15-at-02-26-16-photo-2023-03-14...

Her father wasn't admitted to hospital until two months after
he was vaccinated, and was already infected with COVID.  So
it's the virus that's knocked him out, not the vaccine—as he'd
already had four doses unremarkably.

And a word of advice mate;  you may actually learn something
from my comments if you follow through the data and the links
I post as I never link to non-accredited scientific sites.   Unlike
you and your fraidy cat peers, I don't take any notice of the
conspiracy sites that seem to comprise your entire knowledge
base—if I can call it that LOL.

And I'll say it again;  you never respond to my claims with any
accredited medical facts and figures.  Your every riposte seems
to be no more than childish insults and silly memes.

Responding to your posts has me feeling as though I'm debating
string theory with my cat!

        Wink



I do. I represent the blue line and you represent the green line. Take the ratio of the two if it makes you feel better Wink


LOL... this response gets funnier by the day.   You've posted this
graph multiple times now, but it still doesn't change the actuality
of the data it represents.  And it still doesn't mean what you think
it means.

https://i.postimg.cc/7hKzvQ36/Screenshot-2023-03-16-at-23-51-05-NSWHealth-Survei...

I dunno whether or not you're just taking the piss outa me, or
whether you seriously think that more vaccinated people are in
hospital than unvaccinated—which of course they're not.

According to the Australian Academy of Science, you may wonder why
we’re seeing reports of more vaccinated than unvaccinated people in
hospital, in intensive care units (ICU), or dying from COVID.
          


The AA of Science says they use NSW data.

NSW current data is linked here which clearly shows the unvaxxed are doing far better confirming nails graph is correct. Did you notice that graph has rates?
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1668373929/29#29

Your AAS which you haven't linked says this
Quote:
For example, in April 2022, adults who had received fewer than two vaccines made up 5 per cent of all people in NSW,


When we look at their data source for this at NSW health we get this
Quote:
Vaccination data for NSW sourced from COVID Live,


We know hospital-ICU data is for all ages yet dishonest people like you ignore all ages when quoting vax numbers.

Why is there a discrepancy with AAS claiming 95% vaxxed when the source they quote says 83.4% vaxxed with 2 shots?

Current NSW data up to when they stopped reporting vax status also shows your AAS bullshit doesn't add up.

Your AAS crap doesn't pass any review it's garbage they can't even get vax rates right which impacts rates.

LOL... your understanding of data and statistics, and mathematics is as
poor as your buddy Sir Lastnail.  It doesn't matter how many times you
two post these infographics, they still don't mean what you think they
mean!

And this table has absolutely NOTHING to do with either adverse effects
or vaccinations, or COVID itself.

...

Incidentally, I have to ask you why you're so angry? 
Why can't you respond sensibly, and without a slew of
insults and obscenities?  Do you really think all that this
belligerence further supports what you're claiming? 
This site doesn't work like a fight in a pub car-park mate.


       Angry

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Re: The BigPharma War: Patents vs. Patients
Reply #34 - Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:24am
 
Sophia wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 11:50am:
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 1:43am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 14th, 2023 at 7:49am:
That's because most of the times I don't waste my time reading your garbage and that is exactly what it is. You're just a big pharma shill who is on the wrong side of history. You probably even get paid to write this crap defending the indefensible.

And I have plenty of comebacks for you Geoff. How's this for a sampler...


I'm not actually sure as to why you posted this...

https://i.postimg.cc/rsPZ0Jf0/Screenshot-2023-03-15-at-02-26-16-photo-2023-03-14...

Her father wasn't admitted to hospital until two months after
he was vaccinated, and was already infected with COVID.  So
it's the virus that's knocked him out, not the vaccine—as he'd
already had four doses unremarkably.


And a word of advice mate;  you may actually learn something
from my comments if you follow through the data and the links
I post as I never link to non-accredited scientific sites.   Unlike
you and your fraidy cat peers, I don't take any notice of the
conspiracy sites that seem to comprise your entire knowledge
base—if I can call it that LOL.

And I'll say it again;  you never respond to my claims with any
accredited medical facts and figures.  Your every riposte seems
to be no more than childish insults and silly memes.

Responding to your posts has me feeling as though I'm debating
string theory with my cat!

        Wink



Seems not so well protected with 4 doses and then still got COVID and a 5th booster….
What comes to mind… nothing exceeds like excess and eventually these continuous jabs will catch up… sounds like his immune system has been compromised.



My neighbour up the road got the convid after 4 doses and months later his sense of smell has not returned. His wife also got the convid after taking the jabs Wink

I had no doses and got the convid and my sense of taste pretty much returned after 3 weeks Wink They called me a conspiracy theorist at the time because I wouldn't take the untested fizzer junk Cheesy LOL

geoff would tell you that I'm at risk of dying now Cheesy LOL
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Reply #35 - Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:27am
 
Geoff, best not post in this board. The more we reply the more garbage gets posted in response.

This board has already contributed to some excellent members leaving just from the Niagara of bullshit that is unstoppable.
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Re: The BigPharma War: Patents vs. Patients
Reply #36 - Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:30am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 1:21am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 12:05am:
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 11:19pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 7:19am:
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 15th, 2023 at 1:43am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 14th, 2023 at 7:49am:
That's because most of the times I don't waste my time reading your garbage and that is exactly what it is. You're just a big pharma shill who is on the wrong side of history. You probably even get paid to write this crap defending the indefensible.

And I have plenty of comebacks for you Geoff. How's this for a sampler...


I'm not actually sure as to why you posted this...

https://i.postimg.cc/rsPZ0Jf0/Screenshot-2023-03-15-at-02-26-16-photo-2023-03-14...

Her father wasn't admitted to hospital until two months after
he was vaccinated, and was already infected with COVID.  So
it's the virus that's knocked him out, not the vaccine—as he'd
already had four doses unremarkably.

And a word of advice mate;  you may actually learn something
from my comments if you follow through the data and the links
I post as I never link to non-accredited scientific sites.   Unlike
you and your fraidy cat peers, I don't take any notice of the
conspiracy sites that seem to comprise your entire knowledge
base—if I can call it that LOL.

And I'll say it again;  you never respond to my claims with any
accredited medical facts and figures.  Your every riposte seems
to be no more than childish insults and silly memes.

Responding to your posts has me feeling as though I'm debating
string theory with my cat!

        Wink



I do. I represent the blue line and you represent the green line. Take the ratio of the two if it makes you feel better Wink


LOL... this response gets funnier by the day.   You've posted this
graph multiple times now, but it still doesn't change the actuality
of the data it represents.  And it still doesn't mean what you think
it means.

https://i.postimg.cc/7hKzvQ36/Screenshot-2023-03-16-at-23-51-05-NSWHealth-Survei...

I dunno whether or not you're just taking the piss outa me, or
whether you seriously think that more vaccinated people are in
hospital than unvaccinated—which of course they're not.

According to the Australian Academy of Science, you may wonder why
we’re seeing reports of more vaccinated than unvaccinated people in
hospital, in intensive care units (ICU), or dying from COVID.
          


The AA of Science says they use NSW data.

NSW current data is linked here which clearly shows the unvaxxed are doing far better confirming nails graph is correct. Did you notice that graph has rates?
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1668373929/29#29

Your AAS which you haven't linked says this
Quote:
For example, in April 2022, adults who had received fewer than two vaccines made up 5 per cent of all people in NSW,


When we look at their data source for this at NSW health we get this
Quote:
Vaccination data for NSW sourced from COVID Live,


We know hospital-ICU data is for all ages yet dishonest people like you ignore all ages when quoting vax numbers.

Why is there a discrepancy with AAS claiming 95% vaxxed when the source they quote says 83.4% vaxxed with 2 shots?

Current NSW data up to when they stopped reporting vax status also shows your AAS bullshit doesn't add up.

Your AAS crap doesn't pass any review it's garbage they can't even get vax rates right which impacts rates.

LOL... your understanding of data and statistics, and mathematics is as
poor as your buddy Sir Lastnail.  It doesn't matter how many times you
two post these infographics, they still don't mean what you think they
mean!

And this table has absolutely NOTHING to do with either adverse effects
or vaccinations, or COVID itself.

https://i.postimg.cc/xdzHB1Kd/Screenshot-2023-03-18-at-02-12-50-Australian-Polit...

Incidentally, I have to ask you why you're so angry? 
Why can't you respond sensibly, and without a slew of
insults and obscenities?  Do you really think all that this
belligerence further supports what you're claiming? 
This site doesn't work like a fight in a pub car-park mate.


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doesn't matter what you say geoff we are still not taking your untested experimental fizzer junk !!


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Reply #37 - Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:32am
 
All good to go Vaccinated !!

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Reply #38 - Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:35am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:27am:
Geoff, best not post in this board. The more we reply the more garbage gets posted in response.

This board has already contributed to some excellent members leaving just from the Niagara of bullshit that is unstoppable.


How are you going over there curly Cheesy LOL

Got ya fifth jab yet ??
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Reply #39 - Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:36am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:24am:
My neighbour up the road got the convid after 4 doses and months later his sense of smell has not returned. His wife also got the convid after taking the jabs Wink

I had no doses and got the convid and my sense of taste pretty much returned after 3 weeks Wink They called me a conspiracy theorist at the time because I wouldn't take the untested fizzer junk Cheesy LOL

geoff would tell you that I'm at risk of dying now Cheesy LOL



But Dan said it was safe -

you trust him don't you?
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Reply #40 - Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:29am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:27am:
Geoff, best not post in this board. The more we reply the more garbage gets posted in response.

This board has already contributed to some excellent members leaving just from the Niagara of bullshit that is unstoppable.


Yep, it is definitely unstoppable. Some of the idiots I see every day on Twitter is proof of that.

Sir Nail is the worst offender here but there's a couple of others who are not far behind him in the BS stakes.

I keep telling myself not to post on this board anymore but unfortunately I keep coming back to see what the latest stupidity is that's been posted by our resident antivaxxer nutters.

I have reduced the number of posts I make here and I am striving to get that number down to zero very soon.
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Re: The BigPharma War: Patents vs. Patients
Reply #41 - Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:39am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:35am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:27am:
Geoff, best not post in this board. The more we reply the more garbage gets posted in response.

This board has already contributed to some excellent members leaving just from the Niagara of bullshit that is unstoppable.


How are you going over there curly Cheesy LOL

Got ya fifth jab yet ??


Definitely a sign of Covid "brain fog" (aka brain damage) for Sir Nail here.
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Reply #42 - Mar 18th, 2023 at 10:06am
 
Carl D wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 9:29am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:27am:
Geoff, best not post in this board. The more we reply the more garbage gets posted in response.

This board has already contributed to some excellent members leaving just from the Niagara of bullshit that is unstoppable.


Yep, it is definitely unstoppable. Some of the idiots I see every day on Twitter is proof of that.

Sir Nail is the worst offender here but there's a couple of others who are not far behind him in the BS stakes.

I keep telling myself not to post on this board anymore but unfortunately I keep coming back to see what the latest stupidity is that's been posted by our resident antivaxxer nutters.

I have reduced the number of posts I make here and I am striving to get that number down to zero very soon.


Carl I know how desperately you want this to be something that it is not. Cheesy LOL

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Reply #43 - Mar 18th, 2023 at 10:10am
 
I desperately want Sir Nail to stop posting Covid misinformation and stupidity here but I'm sure that isn't going to happen anytime soon, probably never.
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Reply #44 - Mar 18th, 2023 at 10:19am
 
Carl D wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 10:10am:
I desperately want Sir Nail to stop posting Covid misinformation and stupidity here but I'm sure that isn't going to happen anytime soon, probably never.


And I want you to stop injuring other people for no good reason at all !!
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