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Re: That earthquake in Turkey…
Reply #15 - Feb 8th, 2023 at 8:51pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 3:56pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 3:16pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 3:12pm:
Tectonic plates are moving because of the molten rock. Oil does sweet f.a. in regards to tectonic plate movement.


I guess Oil has just been sitting there doing nothing and waiting for Soviets and Arabs to suck it up, all along eh?  Roll Eyes


The oil has been sitting there for millions of years, barely being touched by humans until they found a use for it. The oil is not lubricating tectonic plates making them move about more smoothly.

Whenever there is a volcanic explosion, it is usually preempted by an earthquake in the region. Tectonic plates make variating movements in response causing more earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. The oil is sitting well above the mantle and below the Earth's surface. If an eruption of lava mixed with the oil, my guess would be that the oil would be volatile in that it would boil and evaporate.

There is not enough oil in the world that could do anything close to floating a continent about on its tectonic plates. It is molten rock that does that.


I think you need to some geological research.
I'm not saying its 'absolute', but it 'may' be a contributing factor. Considering Oil (Decomposed life) has been accumulating since the dawn of life which, as you might know - is a very very very very long time ago (Apes and Humans are just a blink of an eye in the time frame).
The world itself has always been in a constant state of Evolution - even geologically.
Do you even know why India moved so fast from the connection with the southern Gondwanic lands to crash into Asia?
When dramatic changes happen like the extraction of hundreds of millions of years of accumulated oil where parts of the crust are suddenly drained dry and empty - there is ALWAYS side effects and repercussions.

You know, there can always be more than one right answer and contributing factor. Only a moron (like Smith) would think there is only one always.

Only a fool would dismiss such a possibility of cause and effect. Personally, I really wouldn't be surprised in the least.

Oil has been around since the Archean age through the Ediacaran and on. Even if Humans have been extracting just 20% so far to make monoxide into the atmosphere. I'm sure it does have an 'effect' somewhere, sometime.
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Re: That earthquake in Turkey…
Reply #16 - Feb 8th, 2023 at 8:51pm
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 5:19pm:
oil is a lubricant for the tectonic plates



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Reply #17 - Feb 8th, 2023 at 8:54pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 6:03pm:
Sophia wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 11:31am:
It’s so hard to watch how many buildings collapsed and people still trapped alive.



My Geology teacher at Sydney Uni predicted earthquakes in Turkey would be devastating this was over 20 years ago.

Older buildings not designed for quakes fall down pretty quick. Lots of buildings down the death toll will be massive.

Predicting when earthquakes or volcanic eruptions happen is still beyond us.

Seeing the pictures - those buildings would have each had hundreds of people in them. Quite a mass slaughter to be honest. There has got to be a real change in high rise building structures. Very sad to see such immense destruction and of lives lost without a chance of escape to survive. Sad
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Reply #18 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 12:09am
 
Over 11,000 dead now  Shocked
It’s hard to comprehend!
It struck after 4am in morning… when most were in bed… families, kids, babies Embarrassed
See this info below.
There’s these fault lines surrounding that country!
With the history of quakes and deaths… one would think those high rise buildings would be built to a better standard!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_Turkey

Then I thought of China and what I saw when there… were a lot of high rises … more than anyone could ever imagine!
I wondered how they would cope during seismic activity… and I was blown away by the amount of deaths!

In 2008….86,587 deaths!
But in 1976…..300,000 deaths!  Shocked
High rise is not safe in a country with too many fault lines.


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Re: That earthquake in Turkey…
Reply #19 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 12:19am
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 8:51pm:
I think you need to some geological research.
I'm not saying its 'absolute', but it 'may' be a contributing factor. Considering Oil (Decomposed life) has been accumulating since the dawn of life which, as you might know - is a very very very very long time ago (Apes and Humans are just a blink of an eye in the time frame).
The world itself has always been in a constant state of Evolution - even geologically.
Do you even know why India moved so fast from the connection with the southern Gondwanic lands to crash into Asia?
When dramatic changes happen like the extraction of hundreds of millions of years of accumulated oil where parts of the crust are suddenly drained dry and empty - there is ALWAYS side effects and repercussions.


Jasin, I am a geography major from my studies at university. One of the subjects I studied was geology, weather patterns, and physical forms of tectonic plates. That does not make me an expert by any manner. And I had not gone on to do an honours, masters, or PhD on the topic. And the subject I studied in 1997 is now a 26 year old hazy memory. However, even a non-student of the topic of physical transformation of plate tectonics should be able to look up the topic in respectable sources and find out for themselves how plate tectonics work.

Even google images do not show pictures and diagrams of cross sections of the Earth with a floating layer of oil determining continental drift. They are all diagrams of the continental shelf atop molten rock. It is very hot at the centre of the Earth. You find that this causes a heating of the mantle that creates this conveyor belt of molten rock. Over time, pressure builds up and the magma created makes its way to the surface. Otherwise, this magma/molten rock is helping to shift plate tectonics in whatever direction, creating varying degrees of earthquakes.

There is not enough oil in the Earth that could come close to match the amount of molten rock. And the oil that is around is in the ground of the continental shelf.... sitting idle... having no effect on that big blob of molten rock slowly shifting the continental shelf. The oil is in the ground. Not under the continents. But accessible to the people drilling for the oil.
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Re: That earthquake in Turkey…
Reply #20 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 12:37am
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 8:51pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 5:19pm:
oil is a lubricant for the tectonic plates



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Re: That earthquake in Turkey…
Reply #21 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 3:59am
 
It's pretty obvious from aerial shots which buildings were not designed
for earthquake loadings—and probably signed off by shonky building
surveyors for a brown paper bag of lira.

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In earthquake zones, structures—particularly reinforced concrete—need
to be effectively overdesigned;  the collapsed multi-story buildings were
not apparently.

I'd be guessing there'll be a few Turkish and Syrian civil engineers looking
over their shoulders in the days to come.

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Reply #22 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 6:07am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 3:12pm:
Tectonic plates are moving because of the molten rock. Oil does sweet f.a. in regards to tectonic plate movement.


There is no “lubrication” LOL! Huge forces—convection currents in the mantle—force plates together. Ocean plates dip under continental ones but there is huge friction. There is no movement because of friction then suddenly the forces cause the ocean plate to move, skipping a few feet and you have your earthquake.

Oil lubricating the tectonic plates, LOL! That is some imagination Jason has!
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Reply #23 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 8:41pm
 
So…. Removing billions of barrels of thick crude gluggy oil from beneath the earth surely must be leaving gaps to make earth move and them plates move too. It’s a sort of displacement.
But what would I know. I’m just seeing it for what it is.
This earth… we keep taking and taking….

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Reply #24 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 8:49pm
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 8:51pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 8th, 2023 at 5:19pm:
oil is a lubricant for the tectonic plates



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Reply #25 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 8:59pm
 
Quote:
Women to blame for earthquakes, says Iran cleric


A senior Iranian cleric says women who wear revealing clothing and behave promiscuously are to blame for earthquakes.

"Many women who do not dress modestly ... lead young men astray, corrupt their chastity and spread adultery in society, which increases earthquakes," Hojatoleslam Kazem Sedighi was quoted as saying by Iranian media.

"What can we do to avoid being buried under the rubble?" Sedighi asked during a prayer sermon last week. "There is no other solution but to take refuge in religion and to adapt our lives to Islam's moral codes."

In 2003, a powerful earthquake hit the southern city of Bam, killing 31,000 people – about a quarter of that city's population – and destroying its ancient mud-built citadel.

Ahmadinejad made his quake prediction two weeks ago but said he could not give an exact date.

The welfare minister, Sadeq Mahsooli, said prayers and pleas for forgiveness were the best "formulae to repel earthquakes.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/19/women-blame-earthquakes-iran-cleri...


Nothing to do with plate tectonics it's women with loose morals who are to blame for this.

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Reply #26 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 8:59pm
 
Sophia wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 8:41pm:
So…. Removing billions of barrels of thick crude gluggy oil from beneath the earth surely must be leaving gaps to make earth move and them plates move too. It’s a sort of displacement.
But what would I know. I’m just seeing it for what it is.
This earth… we keep taking and taking….



No, mining can cause some subsidence and so can draining an oil or gas field that is not far below the earth’s surface. Nothing like the energy exerted by massive convection currents in the semi-liquid core tho.
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Reply #27 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 9:21pm
 
Sophia wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 8:41pm:
So…. Removing billions of barrels of thick crude gluggy oil from beneath the earth surely must be leaving gaps to make earth move and them plates move too. It’s a sort of displacement.
But what would I know. I’m just seeing it for what it is.
This earth… we keep taking and taking….



Alfred Wegener gets the credit for continental drift around 1912.

He was mocked and ridiculed by mainstream science because he couldn't give a mechanism to how this happened.

Around  1967 they realised he was right and pulped every geology textbook to embrace plate tectonics. Alfred died about 40 years before this happened.

Sinkholes are more of a worry for us we aren't on any fault lines.


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Reply #28 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 9:41pm
 
It’s all fascinating and scary (out of our control) but look what I found!
Scuba diving between the tectonic plates between 2 continents!

https://www.escape.com.au/destinations/europe/scuba-diving-between-two-tectonic-...
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Reply #29 - Feb 9th, 2023 at 9:45pm
 
Sophia wrote on Feb 9th, 2023 at 9:41pm:
It’s all fascinating and scary (out of our control) but look what I found!
Scuba diving between the tectonic plates between 2 continents!

https://www.escape.com.au/destinations/europe/scuba-diving-between-two-tectonic-...

Yes - that's an awesome and very popular dive destination.
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