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Putin unleashes ultimate weapon!!!
Jan 22nd, 2023 at 9:45am
 
Putin is about to unleash his ultimate weapon in the war for Ukraine.

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Reply #1 - Jan 23rd, 2023 at 10:42am
 
"Nye! (Nyet)"

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Reply #2 - Feb 4th, 2023 at 7:15pm
 
In this essay, I argue that the Western narrative is incorrect. In crucial respects, it is the opposite of truth. The underlying cause of the war lies not in an unbridled expansionism of Mr. Putin, or in paranoid delusions of military planners in the Kremlin, but in a 30-year history of Western provocations, directed at Russia, that began during the dissolution of the Soviet Union and continued to the start of the war. These provocations placed Russia in an untenable situation, for which war seemed, to Mr. Putin and his military staff, the only workable solution. In arguing this case, I pay special attention to the United States — and subject it to particularly sharp criticism — because it has played the decisive role in shaping Western policy.

In criticizing the West, it is not my aim to justify Moscow’s invasion or exonerate Russia’s leaders. I have no brief for Mr. Putin. Notwithstanding all I will say, I believe he had alternatives to war. But I do want to understand him — in the sense of seeking to rationally assess the causal sequence that led him to launch the war.

https://medium.com/@benjamin.abelow/western-policies-caused-the-ukraine-crisis-a...
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Reply #3 - Feb 4th, 2023 at 7:45pm
 
Don't worry. The whole world knows Putin had no choice of action.
I know Albanese would cry to America if China set up shop in PNG and Solomons.
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Reply #4 - Feb 4th, 2023 at 9:24pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 4th, 2023 at 7:15pm:
In this essay, I argue that the Western narrative is incorrect. In crucial respects, it is the opposite of truth. The underlying cause of the war lies not in an unbridled expansionism of Mr. Putin, or in paranoid delusions of military planners in the Kremlin, but in a 30-year history of Western provocations, directed at Russia, that began during the dissolution of the Soviet Union and continued to the start of the war. These provocations placed Russia in an untenable situation, for which war seemed, to Mr. Putin and his military staff, the only workable solution. In arguing this case, I pay special attention to the United States — and subject it to particularly sharp criticism — because it has played the decisive role in shaping Western policy.

In criticizing the West, it is not my aim to justify Moscow’s invasion or exonerate Russia’s leaders. I have no brief for Mr. Putin. Notwithstanding all I will say, I believe he had alternatives to war. But I do want to understand him — in the sense of seeking to rationally assess the causal sequence that led him to launch the war.

https://medium.com/@benjamin.abelow/western-policies-caused-the-ukraine-crisis-a...



I can see where the author is coming from, however I disagree with the conclusion that it is the fault of the US and the west in general.  Russia has a long history of paranoia about invasion from the west and Napoleon and Hitler served to confirm that in the Russian psyche.

After the collapse of the USSR it was only natural that the countries that had been used as unwilling roadblocks against any western invasion would seek to distance themseves from their former occupiers. However this disturbed the Russians, and when Ukraine, a former USSR republic, did the same the paranoia went ballistic. 

Nothing to do with the US and everything to do with the Russian mindset. 
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Reply #5 - Feb 5th, 2023 at 11:10am
 
The problem with assigning blame for the invasion of Ukraine, to the West or the USA, is the fact that Europe, while part of NATO, has bent over backwards to integrate commercially with the Russian Federation. They even talked Ukraine into giving up its nuclear weapons. What more were they supposed to do, for F!@# sake?

No. This war has been sold to Russians on the idea the Americans and Nazis were coming to enslave them. Whether Putin believes this narrative or not, he has worked his way into an unassailable political position which has more in common with Nazi Germany, than the democracy which he still claims.
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Reply #6 - Feb 5th, 2023 at 11:27am
 
Russians are inherently paranoid about invasion.

They have always taught their children, in school and home, of the 'times of troubles'.

These are times when a foreign force has invaded Russia and savaged the great Russian people and the country. Then, from among their numbers, a Russian saviour and strongman, (typically a Tsar, but also a Soviet leader and, recently, Putin), rises to defeat and drive out the invaders.

This extends as far back as Russia has existed and includes stories of the horrors of the Mongol invasion from the east.
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Reply #7 - Feb 5th, 2023 at 12:49pm
 
Turkish invasion too.
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Reply #8 - Feb 6th, 2023 at 1:30pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Feb 4th, 2023 at 9:24pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 4th, 2023 at 7:15pm:
In this essay, I argue that the Western narrative is incorrect. In crucial respects, it is the opposite of truth. The underlying cause of the war lies not in an unbridled expansionism of Mr. Putin, or in paranoid delusions of military planners in the Kremlin, but in a 30-year history of Western provocations, directed at Russia, that began during the dissolution of the Soviet Union and continued to the start of the war. These provocations placed Russia in an untenable situation, for which war seemed, to Mr. Putin and his military staff, the only workable solution. In arguing this case, I pay special attention to the United States — and subject it to particularly sharp criticism — because it has played the decisive role in shaping Western policy.

In criticizing the West, it is not my aim to justify Moscow’s invasion or exonerate Russia’s leaders. I have no brief for Mr. Putin. Notwithstanding all I will say, I believe he had alternatives to war. But I do want to understand him — in the sense of seeking to rationally assess the causal sequence that led him to launch the war.

https://medium.com/@benjamin.abelow/western-policies-caused-the-ukraine-crisis-a...



I can see where the author is coming from, however I disagree with the conclusion that it is the fault of the US and the west in general.  Russia has a long history of paranoia about invasion from the west and Napoleon and Hitler served to confirm that in the Russian psyche.

After the collapse of the USSR it was only natural that the countries that had been used as unwilling roadblocks against any western invasion would seek to distance themseves from their former occupiers. However this disturbed the Russians, and when Ukraine, a former USSR republic, did the same the paranoia went ballistic. 

Nothing to do with the US and everything to do with the Russian mindset. 




So the US setting up military bases in, I don't know, every country that surrounds Russia had nothing to do with the paranoia?
What about Obama installing a rogue Ukraine gov in 2014?
Nothing?
What about NATO bombing innocent people, the same innocent people it says (in western media) that it's trying to protect.

Yep, Russia's fault.
Blame trump, or the abos in Alice Springs.

Turn off the western media mate. It will rot your brain, worse than crack.
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Reply #9 - Feb 6th, 2023 at 3:02pm
 
Well said Capt Caveman

Albanese the Dog will do anything Dopey Joe tells him to do.
Hope every one of those Bushmasters that Australia sent, get blown to bits like a waste of Australian tax-payer's money.

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Reply #10 - Feb 6th, 2023 at 3:18pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 6th, 2023 at 1:30pm:
Belgarion wrote on Feb 4th, 2023 at 9:24pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 4th, 2023 at 7:15pm:
In this essay, I argue that the Western narrative is incorrect. In crucial respects, it is the opposite of truth. The underlying cause of the war lies not in an unbridled expansionism of Mr. Putin, or in paranoid delusions of military planners in the Kremlin, but in a 30-year history of Western provocations, directed at Russia, that began during the dissolution of the Soviet Union and continued to the start of the war. These provocations placed Russia in an untenable situation, for which war seemed, to Mr. Putin and his military staff, the only workable solution. In arguing this case, I pay special attention to the United States — and subject it to particularly sharp criticism — because it has played the decisive role in shaping Western policy.

In criticizing the West, it is not my aim to justify Moscow’s invasion or exonerate Russia’s leaders. I have no brief for Mr. Putin. Notwithstanding all I will say, I believe he had alternatives to war. But I do want to understand him — in the sense of seeking to rationally assess the causal sequence that led him to launch the war.

https://medium.com/@benjamin.abelow/western-policies-caused-the-ukraine-crisis-a...



I can see where the author is coming from, however I disagree with the conclusion that it is the fault of the US and the west in general.  Russia has a long history of paranoia about invasion from the west and Napoleon and Hitler served to confirm that in the Russian psyche.

After the collapse of the USSR it was only natural that the countries that had been used as unwilling roadblocks against any western invasion would seek to distance themseves from their former occupiers. However this disturbed the Russians, and when Ukraine, a former USSR republic, did the same the paranoia went ballistic. 

Nothing to do with the US and everything to do with the Russian mindset. 




So the US setting up military bases in, I don't know, every country that surrounds Russia had nothing to do with the paranoia?
What about Obama installing a rogue Ukraine gov in 2014?
Nothing?
What about NATO bombing innocent people, the same innocent people it says (in western media) that it's trying to protect.

Yep, Russia's fault.
Blame trump, or the abos in Alice Springs.

Turn off the western media mate. It will rot your brain, worse than crack.



What can I say that will have any effect on such stupidity?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #11 - Feb 6th, 2023 at 5:16pm
 
Then its Two Wrongs not making a Right Belgarion.
The Yanks are just as much at fault as the Russians then.
Wars usually start like that.

...and how many times does the world have to put up with the USA's selfish bulls*hit wars of lies and self gain?
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Reply #12 - Feb 6th, 2023 at 10:06pm
 
Putin is a coward and loser.
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Reply #13 - Feb 7th, 2023 at 5:32am
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 6th, 2023 at 10:06pm:
Putin is a coward and loser.


Are you sure he's not Ras-putin?
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Reply #14 - Feb 7th, 2023 at 9:02am
 
Belgarion wrote on Feb 6th, 2023 at 3:18pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 6th, 2023 at 1:30pm:
Belgarion wrote on Feb 4th, 2023 at 9:24pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 4th, 2023 at 7:15pm:
In this essay, I argue that the Western narrative is incorrect. In crucial respects, it is the opposite of truth. The underlying cause of the war lies not in an unbridled expansionism of Mr. Putin, or in paranoid delusions of military planners in the Kremlin, but in a 30-year history of Western provocations, directed at Russia, that began during the dissolution of the Soviet Union and continued to the start of the war. These provocations placed Russia in an untenable situation, for which war seemed, to Mr. Putin and his military staff, the only workable solution. In arguing this case, I pay special attention to the United States — and subject it to particularly sharp criticism — because it has played the decisive role in shaping Western policy.

In criticizing the West, it is not my aim to justify Moscow’s invasion or exonerate Russia’s leaders. I have no brief for Mr. Putin. Notwithstanding all I will say, I believe he had alternatives to war. But I do want to understand him — in the sense of seeking to rationally assess the causal sequence that led him to launch the war.

https://medium.com/@benjamin.abelow/western-policies-caused-the-ukraine-crisis-a...



I can see where the author is coming from, however I disagree with the conclusion that it is the fault of the US and the west in general.  Russia has a long history of paranoia about invasion from the west and Napoleon and Hitler served to confirm that in the Russian psyche.

After the collapse of the USSR it was only natural that the countries that had been used as unwilling roadblocks against any western invasion would seek to distance themseves from their former occupiers. However this disturbed the Russians, and when Ukraine, a former USSR republic, did the same the paranoia went ballistic. 

Nothing to do with the US and everything to do with the Russian mindset. 




So the US setting up military bases in, I don't know, every country that surrounds Russia had nothing to do with the paranoia?
What about Obama installing a rogue Ukraine gov in 2014?
Nothing?
What about NATO bombing innocent people, the same innocent people it says (in western media) that it's trying to protect.

Yep, Russia's fault.
Blame trump, or the abos in Alice Springs.

Turn off the western media mate. It will rot your brain, worse than crack.



What can I say that will have any effect on such stupidity?  Roll Eyes



You'd only parrot what the US MSM told you.
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