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Jan 21st, 2023 at 8:36am
 
Having encountered George Pell many decades ago I imagined myself fully aware of the evil he's capable of.
An article in todays THE SATURDAY PAPER however has managed to shock even me. More specifically the relationship between Rupert Murdoch and Pell,
Instance :-
'For News Corps it was never simply a matter of supporting Pell. It was also important to obliterate his critics.
   
        The ABC'S LOUISE MILLIGAN did a 7.30 story in July 2016 on the young men who complained they were sexually assaulted by Pell at the Eureka pool in Ballarat. She also wrote the Walkely Award wining CARDINAL
        Her work on Pell prompted a blizzard of attacks in the pages of THE AUSTRALIAN. Columnist Gerard Henderson mentioned her 446 times in 37 months.

        Between May 201, when Cardinal, was published, up to August 2021, Milligan was adversely mentioned by Henderson in more than 100 of his columns. A printout of attacks published by News corps ib the ABC journalist runs for more than 1000 pages.

        In 1998 Rupert Murdoch was given a papal knighthood after donating $10 million to the Los Angeles Catholic diocese. His then wife, Anna Murdoch, was made a Dame of the Order if St Gregory the Great."

During the phone hacking scandal in London, Murdoch was exposed to public agitation to have his papal kinghthood stripped. Needless to say Pell managed to prevent that even though Sir Rupert M is not a catholic.
The Lord moves in mysterious ways !

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Reply #1 - Jan 21st, 2023 at 8:43am
 
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Reply #2 - Jan 21st, 2023 at 8:48am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 8:43am:

Thanks but I wanted to carefully read the original (in the printed version) whilst posting it.
We note your support for Rome appears to remain as ever.

John Ch8:V24 comes to mind

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Reply #3 - Jan 21st, 2023 at 8:50am
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 8:48am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 8:43am:

Thanks but I wanted to carefully read the original whilst posting it.
We note your support for Rome appears to remain as ever.




There are many anti-Pell links on the internet but are they all true?

https://theaimn.com/george-pell-devil-incarnate-is-dead/


https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2018/05/06/george-pell-mystery-adverts-...
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Reply #4 - Jan 21st, 2023 at 8:56am
 
There are many anti-Pell links on the internet but are they all true?
Possibly not but my direct personal interaction with Pell at St Patrick's, Melbourne wasn't just in my imagination.
How I wish it had been.

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Reply #5 - Jan 21st, 2023 at 9:35am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 8:50am:
There are many anti-Pell links on the internet but are they all true?

https://theaimn.com/george-pell-devil-incarnate-is-dead/

I've read through this link—phew!—and I have to say in all fairness
that a lot of its content and claims are simply third party hearsay.

And we all know that hearsay on its own is NOT evidence.

Having said that though, I believe that a substantial part of Lawrence's
report must be accepted as confirmed and truthful.

Further links HERE.



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Reply #6 - Jan 21st, 2023 at 9:40am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 9:35am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 8:50am:
There are many anti-Pell links on the internet but are they all true?

https://theaimn.com/george-pell-devil-incarnate-is-dead/

I've read through this link—phew!—and I have to say in all fairness
that a lot of its content and claims are simply third party hearsay.

And we all know that hearsay on its own is NOT evidence.

Having said that though, I believe that a substantial part of Lawrence's
report must be accepted as confirmed and truthful.

Further links HERE.





yes -


The report found he both knew about child abuse, particularly within the Victorian diocese of Ballarat,
and failed to take proper steps to act on complaints about dangerous priests.
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Reply #7 - Jan 21st, 2023 at 11:36am
 
Hatred, ignorance fuel ongoing media anti-Pell campaign
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It appears the media pile-on against the late George Pell will continue past his death and burial. For example, last Thursday left-wing newsletter Crikey headed its “Your say” readers’ comment section as follows: “George Pell was a winner for the Catholic Church but lost his soul in the process.”

Crikey’s various readers produced no evidence that the soul of the late cardinal has been condemned to the eternal flames of hell. But they made it clear there is a viscerally hot hatred still extant on this Earth for Australia’s most senior Catholic. It expresses itself, among other places, in unbalanced media coverage following the ­cardinal’s death.

The media pile-on against Pell was led by the ABC, Nine newspapers (The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald), the avowedly left-wing The Guardian Australia, The New Daily, The Saturday Paper and Crikey.

ABC TV’s 7.30 initially fired up the media campaign on July 27, 2016, when it devoted a whole program to a report by Louise Milligan that ran accusations that Pell had committed acts of historical child abuse against boys in Ballarat in the early 1970s and in Melbourne in the mid-1990s. As it turned out, none of the charges against Pell were upheld by the legal system.

News of Pell’s death in Rome reached Australia on the morning of January 11. That evening, 7.30 ran clips of recorded interviews with Greg Craven and David Marr. Both have legal qualifications. Craven was a friend of Pell; Marr an antagonist. Marr got over three times the coverage of Craven.

Then presenter David Speers interviewed one-time Catholic priest and former ABC presenter Paul Collins. Early on, Collins felt the need to declare: “I should admit right up front … Cardinal Pell and I were protagonists on quite a number of occasions, particularly on the ABC.” The interview went for close to six minutes. Speers did not interview any Pell supporters.

Earlier that day, ABC journalists and Pell antagonists Milligan and Paul Kennedy were interviewed by Tony Jones on Nine’s Melbourne radio station, 3AW. Kennedy admitted he became “emotional” when considering Pell’s (alleged) responses to child sexual abuse by Catholic priests and brothers. Kennedy has done an ABC TV documentary on the issue. Milligan expressed similar feelings with respect to Pell.

It was much the same with Nine’s newspapers. The Age and SMH ran editorials replete with criticism of Pell – and the latter’s letters page printed only the views of Pell antagonists. Long-time Pell critic Barney Zwartz wrote a column and an obituary on Pell in both papers.

The Age and SMH also ran an opinion piece by Melbourne-based academic Miles Pattenden, who has described himself as a recent arrival to Australia. Among other errors, Pattenden referred to “the lengths to which he (Pell) supported fellow priest and convicted pedophile Gerald Ridsdale”. Sure, Pell acknowledged he had erred in accompanying Ridsdale to court in 1993 when he first pleaded guilty to child sexual abuse. Beyond that, Pell had little contact with Ridsdale and was never his bishop or archbishop.

On January 11, The Guardian Australia ran a column by Marr who repeated allegations against Pell with which he had either not been charged or concerning which charges were dropped. The same can be said of a subsequent article by Christopher Knaus.

Meanwhile, freelance journalist Lucie Morris-Marr, whose work appears in The New Daily, tweeted shortly after she became aware of Pell’s death. She urged her followers to read a page of her book, Fallen (published before Pell’s conviction was quashed by a unanimous High Court judgment). This contained an allegation against Pell that was dropped and never went to trial.

On January 12, Crikey legal correspondent Michael Bradley ran a guilt-by-association line in repeating the old news that Pell, when a priest in Ballarat in the early 1970s, had, for around a year, shared a “house with the notorious predator Gerald Ridsdale”.

In fact, Pell and Ridsdale – among others – had a single room each in a presbytery in Ballarat East. Around the same time, journalist Paul Bongiorno – then a Catholic priest – shared presbytery accommodation for around a year with Ridsdale in Warrnambool. In May 2015, he told ABC presenter Fran Kelly he had not the faintest idea at the time that Ridsdale was a pedophile. Bradley did not mention this in his Crikey article.

Then, last weekend, The Saturday Paper ran a front-page story by Milligan titled “The child abuse cases for which George Pell was never tried”. She returned to some of the instances she cited in her 7.30 program and added others.

Milligan failed to tell readers the reason Pell was not tried on these matters turned on the fact that either Victoria Police or Victorian Director of Public Prosecutions or Victorian Magistrates Court or Victorian County Court did not believe there was sufficient evidence to secure a conviction. As I documented last week, the Royal Commission Into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse did not produce any oral or documentary evidence to support its hostile findings against Pell.

It seems Milligan has failed to heed the warning of ACT Chief Justice Lucy McCallum, in the recent case of R v Lehrmann, that there is a distinction “between an untested allegation and the fact of guilt” following a conviction after all legal avenues have been exhausted.
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Reply #8 - Jan 21st, 2023 at 11:38am
 
Soon after the publication of Milligan’s article, Melbourne University Law School’s Professor Jeremy Gans put out a long Twitter thread in which he referred to “a recurrent problem with Milligan’s journalism”. Namely, “if there are facts that don’t help her argument, she just leaves them out”.

Gans concluded his analysis by stating: “Milligan’s a gifted writer; but I don’t think she’s a good court reporter.” His comments were reported by Chris Merritt on these pages on Wednesday. So far, Milligan has not responded to Gans’s withering critique.

What’s concerning about much, but not all, of the coverage of Pell in life and now in death is that it is motivated by animus fired by ignorance. It’s a problem that goes to the soul of contemporary journalism.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/hatred-ignorance-fuel-ongoing-media-an...
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Reply #9 - Jan 21st, 2023 at 12:02pm
 
George Pell knew nearly 40 years ago that notorious paedophile
priest Gerald Ridsdale was being moved out of a small, Victorian
country parish to protect the Catholic Church from scandal, the
Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual
Abuse found in 2020.

The finding means that Pell was aware of allegations of sexual
abuse against Ridsdale
at least a decade before Ridsdale’s offending
was investigated by police, and possibly earlier.

Gerald Ridsdale outside court in 1993,
accompanied by his advocate George Pell.

...

Pell was always unable to satisfactorily explain why he'd offered to
act as Ridsdale's advocate (a person who works and argues in support
of another's cause in a court).  My guess is that it was to shut down
or repress Ridsdale's potential testimony as much as he could, in order
to protect himself and/or the church.

I'm sure this image must've haunted Pell to his grave. 

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Reply #10 - Jan 22nd, 2023 at 1:14pm
 
God must have been on Pell's side.
Afterall, he got away with it all - in the end.
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Reply #11 - Jan 22nd, 2023 at 1:19pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jan 22nd, 2023 at 1:14pm:
God must have been on Pell's side.
Afterall, he got away with it all - in the end.



But he still has to get past St Peter:


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Reply #12 - Jan 22nd, 2023 at 1:53pm
 
Pell will be up there with the best of them in Heaven.
Heaven is full of people like Pell.
He was full of Jesus's love for the children.

When you go to Heaven Bobby.
Pell will be there waiting for you.
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Speaking by video link from Rome, Cardinal Pell told the commission that he attended court at the suggestion of Ridsdale's lawyer.

"I said, 'Yes'. I now realise that was a mistake.

Cardinal George Pell said it was a "mistake" to accompany notorious paedophile Gerald Ridsdale​ to court but he believed the action might result in a lesser sentence for the former priest.

In his fourth day of testimony to the royal commission, the Cardinal was cross examined on why he supported Ridsdale at his 1993 appearance at Melbourne Magistrate's Court.


George Pell: supporting Ridsdale 'was a mistake'

Cardinal Pell says he was acting on Christian duty "to be kind to prisoners" when he walked paedophile priest Gerald Ridsdale to court in 1993.

Speaking by video link from Rome, Cardinal Pell told the commission that he attended court at the suggestion of Ridsdale's lawyer.

"I said, 'Yes'. I now realise that was a mistake."

He told the commission he did not provide a reference for Ridsdale, who was later convicted of multiple sexual offences against children, including his own nephew David Ridsdale.

"I had some status as an auxiliary bishop and I was asked to appear with the ambition that this would lessen the term of punishment, lessen his time in jail," he said.

Australia's most senior Catholic clergyman, Cardinal Pell told the commission he had a Christian duty to support Ridsdale.

"I walked with him following the Christian conviction that it's an appropriate activity to be kind to prisoners . . . the separation of the sheep from the goats is their acts of kindness we do to people, including those who are prisoners and those who are at the bottom of the pile like Ridsdale," he said.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/george-pell-tells-royal-commission-walking-geral...

I am not a Catholic and do not follow Cathilic politics but I did like Pell.
He was scapegoated outrageously by the Victorian police and the rabid lefty media.
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Reply #14 - Jan 22nd, 2023 at 4:02pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 22nd, 2023 at 2:54pm:
...I am not a Catholic and do not follow Catholic politics but I did like Pell.
He was scapegoated outrageously by the Victorian police and the rabid lefty media.

I can't agree with this.


Cardinal George Pell was aware of children being sexually abused within
the Archdiocese of Ballarat by notorious paedophile priest Gerald Ridsdale,
Australia’s child abuse royal commission found, and it was “implausible”
that other senior church figures did not tell Pell abuse was occurring. Pell
said senior figures around him deceived him about the extent of abuse
within the Catholic church.

But the commission found: “We are satisfied that Cardinal Pell’s evidence
as to the reasons that the CEO deceived him was implausible. We do not
accept that Bishop Pell was deceived, intentionally or otherwise”.

Pell told the commission during a separate appearance in 2014 that he
originally took comments about the extent of abuse within the church
from victims’ rights groups “with a grain of salt”.

Excepted from The Guardian Australia, 7 May 2020.

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