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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #465 - May 21^st, 2025 at 11:21am

thegreatdivide wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 11:05am:

Boris wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 6:17am:

What is the criminal rate for the Aboriginal people?

Much higher than for whites, as your stats show.

The question is how to close those stats. ie close the gap.

Suggestions?

Stop drinking, fighting, neglecting and abusing your kiddies. So when you are sober and clean, turn up to school, turn up to training, turn up to work.

A good start, all doable without a single government intervention. Millions, billions around the world manage it. EVEN Aborigines!

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #466 - May 21^st, 2025 at 11:34am

Frank wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 11:21am:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 11:05am:

Boris wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 6:17am:

What is the criminal rate for the Aboriginal people?

Much higher than for whites, as your stats show.

The question is how to close those stats. ie close the gap.

Suggestions?

Stop drinking, fighting, neglecting and abusing your kiddies. So when you are sober and clean, turn up to school, turn up to training, turn up to work.

A good start, all doable without a single government intervention. Millions, billions around the world manage it. EVEN Aborigines!

Trump in 2016 (on blacks in US inner-city ghettos) : "You are living in poverty, your neigbourhoods are like war zones, your young men are in prison..."

Why is it so?

Obviously government intervention to end povery is necessary.

Your conservative "go get a job" ideology is crippling your powers of analysis.

Meanwile, democratic governments are failing all around the world because the economy is failing to give the bottom half a fair go.

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #467 - May 21^st, 2025 at 11:41am

thegreatdivide wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 11:34am:

Frank wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 11:21am:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 11:05am:

Boris wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 6:17am:

What is the criminal rate for the Aboriginal people?

Much higher than for whites, as your stats show.

The question is how to close those stats. ie close the gap.

Suggestions?

Stop drinking, fighting, neglecting and abusing your kiddies. So when you are sober and clean, turn up to school, turn up to training, turn up to work.

A good start, all doable without a single government intervention. Millions, billions around the world manage it. EVEN Aborigines!

Trump in 2016 (on blacks in US inner-city ghettos)

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #468 - May 21^st, 2025 at 11:47am

https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2022/05/20/social-unrest-is-rising-adding-...

Social Unrest is Rising, Adding to Risks for Global Economy

This year, large and long-running anti-government demonstrations have occurred in some advanced economies where unrest is relatively rare, such as Canada and New Zealand. And in several emerging and developing economies, coups and constitutional crises have sparked widespread protests. A recent body of IMF work aims to understand the economic drivers and costs of such unrest.

Like all blind Conservatives, Frank denies the existence of these macroeconomic realities, and the consequences for individuals, many of whom can't simply "go get a job" to escape poverty. Even whites on Job Seeker in Oz can attest to that.

And btw, your three clowns emojis are as silly as Brian's yawns which yo despise so much....

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #469 - May 21^st, 2025 at 11:50am

thegreatdivide wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 11:47am:

https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2022/05/20/social-unrest-is-rising-adding-...

Social Unrest is Rising, Adding to Risks for Global Economy

This year, large and long-running anti-government demonstrations have occurred in some advanced economies where unrest is relatively rare, such as Canada and New Zealand. And in several emerging and developing economies, coups and constitutional crises have sparked widespread protests. A recent body of IMF work aims to understand the economic drivers and costs of such unrest.

Like all blind Conservatives, Frank denies the existence of these macroeconomic realities, and the consequences for individuals, many of whom can't simply "go get a job" to escape poverty. Even whites on Job Seeker in Oz can attest to that.

Get back on topic, silly parrot.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1674245587/465#465

There ARE things you can do - must do - WITHOUT government assistance. Importantly, no amount of government assistance will help if you DONT do these things.

That is the crux of the matter.

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #470 - May 21^st, 2025 at 11:52am

thegreatdivide wrote on May 20^th, 2025 at 4:26pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 9:43pm:

A 10 minute walk from the Alice puts one in good hunting country, it’s not a big place.

Meanwhile farmers in SA and Vic have reached the stage of shooting their livestock and their livelihoods.. so much for "good hunting country" in a drought.

Naturally they are calling out for Albo to save their livelihoods, which he could do - there is plenty of feed in other parts of Oz - but Albo thinks he has to balance the federal government's budget, like you and I have to balance our own household budget, and therefore he baulks at paying the costs of trucking the feed from Qld etc. , an operation well within Oz governement capacity since the fodder, trucks, drivers and fuel are all available, able to be purchased and funded by the currency-issuing Oz government's Treasury without causing inflation (since the necessary resources are available).

Google Steve Keen's article "Triggering Crises by Reducing Government Debt", to educate yourself.

There isa drought around the Alice?

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #471 - May 21^st, 2025 at 11:59am

Frank wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 11:50am:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 11:47am:

https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2022/05/20/social-unrest-is-rising-adding-...

Social Unrest is Rising, Adding to Risks for Global Economy

This year, large and long-running anti-government demonstrations have occurred in some advanced economies where unrest is relatively rare, such as Canada and New Zealand. And in several emerging and developing economies, coups and constitutional crises have sparked widespread protests. A recent body of IMF work aims to understand the economic drivers and costs of such unrest.

Like all blind Conservatives, Frank denies the existence of these macroeconomic realities, and the consequences for individuals, many of whom can't simply "go get a job" to escape poverty. Even whites on Job Seeker in Oz can attest to that.

Get back on topic, silly parrot.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1674245587/465#465

Trump on crime in black poverty ghettos IS on topic you mindless Conservative ideologue.

You thought your 3 clown emojis (like your despised Brian's yawn) is sufficient argument to deny the relationship between poverty, crime, and macroeconomic dysfunction - which the IMF wants to understand, given increasing social unrest in many countries even among people not living in poverty (yet), as the middle class is under increasing pressure.

Deplorable.

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #472 - May 21^st, 2025 at 12:08pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 11:52am:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 20^th, 2025 at 4:26pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 9:43pm:

A 10 minute walk from the Alice puts one in good hunting country, it’s not a big place.

Meanwhile farmers in SA and Vic have reached the stage of shooting their livestock and their livelihoods.. so much for "good hunting country" in a drought.

Naturally they are calling out for Albo to save their livelihoods, which he could do - there is plenty of feed in other parts of Oz - but Albo thinks he has to balance the federal government's budget, like you and I have to balance our own household budget, and therefore he baulks at paying the costs of trucking the feed from Qld etc. , an operation well within Oz governement capacity since the fodder, trucks, drivers and fuel are all available, able to be purchased and funded by the currency-issuing Oz government's Treasury without causing inflation (since the necessary resources are available).

Google Steve Keen's article "Triggering Crises by Reducing Government Debt", to educate yourself.

There is a drought around the Alice?

Already answered in my reply to graps (#463)

Now, back to the topic - how to close the gap among the majority of blacks who live in regional centres?

I have disposed of Frank's and grap's and Boris's crippled analysis, so what are your ideas to close the gap, to end the social unrest in the Alice and elsewhere?

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #473 - May 21^st, 2025 at 12:15pm

Why close the gaps? The Abos are content to sit out there and 'be traditional' and collect $1.1m in 'royalties - rent by other means, you understand - just for being there. Then they can come into town to binge and stab one another.

Now - which 'gap' would you like to start with?

Crime Rate?
Domestic violence and killing?
Child abuse and neglect?
Incarceration Rate?
Kids removed rate?
Self-induced poverty?

Name one and lay out your plan..... Grin

.. we won't hold our breath.

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #474 - May 21^st, 2025 at 12:36pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 12:15pm:

Why close the gaps?

Because everyone wants to close it - except sufferers of crippled brain syndrome like you, and welfare dependent blacks sitting around in parks in a drunken stupor, the very people who you claim should say "hey, why don't we go get a job".......

So I rest my case; the rest of your post is CIGO.

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #475 - May 21^st, 2025 at 12:51pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 12:36pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 12:15pm:

Why close the gaps?

Because everyone wants to close it - except sufferers of crippled brain syndrome like you, and

the

welfare dependent blacks sitting around in parks in a drunken stupor, the very people who you claim should say "hey, why don't we go get a job?".......

So I rest my case; the rest of your post is CIGO.

Yes they should. They crippled their own brains.

You have never had a case.

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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4288 Gender:	Re: Alice Springs - out of control Reply #476 - May 21^st, 2025 at 2:22pm https://x.com/FranMooMoo/status/1923280411121287564 https://x.com/ReubzRichardson/status/1773102395767038199
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 87328 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Alice Springs - out of control Reply #477 - May 21^st, 2025 at 2:37pm No single gap you want to address? Lay out YOUR plan to close? Just content to persist with the empty-headed abusive rhetoric... you're all like that.
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 87328 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Alice Springs - out of control Reply #478 - May 21^st, 2025 at 2:39pm Boris wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 2:22pm: https://x.com/FranMooMoo/status/1923280411121287564 https://x.com/ReubzRichardson/status/1773102395767038199 Pillperth reckons there's no civil war out there..... guess he just needs to get out more....
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 87328 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Alice Springs - out of control Reply #479 - May 21^st, 2025 at 2:42pm We need to close the Arseholes On The Streets Gap!! What'll it be, Pilgrim? Their own Homeland where they can do things their way (LMFAO) or prison?
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