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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #420 - May 5^th, 2025 at 4:18pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 5^th, 2025 at 3:38pm:

Frank wrote on May 4^th, 2025 at 4:00pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 5:40pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 3:16pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 12:33pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 12:21pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 11:40am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 10:01am:

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Why cannot Aboriginal people in remote communities grow their own veggies?

Because you need white man's technology to grow food in a desert.

Well, finish school and you'll have white man's technology and know how.
It is called civilising effect.

See #410; a supportive family in a functional community is a necessity, to finish school.

Well, get functioning and supportive, then, ffs.

Your error: kids can't change poor parental role models in socio-economically blighted communities. Do try to keep up.

It's entirely within their own control.

Nonsense, you are expecting kids in these communities to be young geniuses, despite the fact poverty is correlated with crime.

Government spending solves so many problems! It must solve problems, right? Otherwise, they wouldn't keep doing it!

Your error: government spending informed by neoclassical NAIRU economists, as at present, merely wastes money on the poverty industry, instead of eradicating poverty and ensuring employment for all.

(see the latest MMT post).

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And, there you have it! So many problems, solved by the wise and powerful people in government! Thanks, government spending!

Get back to me when the government is actually eradicating poverty.

Did they cause poverty in remote communities?

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #421 - May 5^th, 2025 at 4:30pm

Poverty/Comparative Poverty - different issues.

The ONLY long term solutions for UNEQUAL INCOME AND PROSPERITY in Australia are:-

. fixing the lack of - indeed the impossibility of - any equal distribution in 'jobs' across the nation
. fixing the lack of genuine forward planning and infrastructure (planning and implementation) that will secure a future for the nation and its people
. fixing the inherent unwillingness of some to move with the times
. controlling immigration and arranging a general integration and assimilation so that all may pull in the same direction (generally)
. listening to people like me who know stuff

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #422 - May 7^th, 2025 at 9:16am

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Glassing, punch-ons: Fears violence becoming ‘worse’ in Top End suburb

As alcohol-fueled violence continues to rock the streets of Palmerston neighbourhood, residents, business owners and a local member are now calling on authorities to crack down on the wild hotspots troubling their suburb.

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #423 - May 7^th, 2025 at 12:10pm

Boris wrote on May 7^th, 2025 at 9:16am:

https://www.ntnews.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=NTWEB_WRE170_a_FBK&dest=h...

Glassing, punch-ons: Fears violence becoming ‘worse’ in Top End suburb

As alcohol-fueled violence continues to rock the streets of Palmerston neighbourhood, residents, business owners and a local member are now calling on authorities to crack down on the wild hotspots troubling their suburb.

What? People calling for a politically incorrect solution.
That will never do.

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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4439 Gender:	Re: Alice Springs - out of control Reply #424 - May 9^th, 2025 at 8:17pm ‘Abhorrent’: NT man charged with raping child under five An Alice Springs man has been charged with several child abuse offences including having sexual intercourse with a child under five. Read his full list of charges. https://www.ntnews.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=NTWEB_WRE170_a_FBK&dest=h...
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 45434	Re: Alice Springs - out of control Reply #425 - May 9^th, 2025 at 8:34pm Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17210 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Alice Springs - out of control Reply #426 - May 9^th, 2025 at 9:51pm Brian Ross wrote on May 9^th, 2025 at 8:34pm: Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... That's the NT for ya! Where else but the twilight zone would you see the sort of dysfunction endemic there? How can I not agree with you?
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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #427 - May 10^th, 2025 at 7:18am

Brian Ross wrote on May 9^th, 2025 at 8:34pm:

Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Where is your empathy for the rape victim?

Non existent - you are a Psychopath.

I have actually seen this sort of stuff as a first responder while you sip Soy Lattes in the inner city and read Marx.

That child is ruined for life and you belittle her.

You are a Grandiose Narcissist.

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #428 - May 10^th, 2025 at 3:21pm

Gnads wrote on May 5^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 5^th, 2025 at 3:38pm:

Frank wrote on May 4^th, 2025 at 4:00pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 5:40pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 3:16pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 12:33pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 12:21pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 11:40am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 10:01am:

Quote:

Why cannot Aboriginal people in remote communities grow their own veggies?

Because you need white man's technology to grow food in a desert.

Well, finish school and you'll have white man's technology and know how.
It is called civilising effect.

See #410; a supportive family in a functional community is a necessity, to finish school.

Well, get functioning and supportive, then, ffs.

Your error: kids can't change poor parental role models in socio-economically blighted communities. Do try to keep up.

It's entirely within their own control.

Nonsense, you are expecting kids in these communities to be young geniuses, despite the fact poverty is correlated with crime.

Government spending solves so many problems! It must solve problems, right? Otherwise, they wouldn't keep doing it!

Your error: government spending informed by neoclassical NAIRU economists, as at present, merely wastes money on the poverty industry, instead of eradicating poverty and ensuring employment for all.

(see the latest MMT post).

Quote:

And, there you have it! So many problems, solved by the wise and powerful people in government! Thanks, government spending!

Get back to me when the government is actually eradicating poverty.

Did they cause poverty in remote communities?

Yes, due to colonialization ("we smashed their culture").

Do try to keep up.

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #429 - May 10^th, 2025 at 3:39pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 5^th, 2025 at 4:30pm:

Poverty/Comparative Poverty - different issues.

Homelessness, or overcrowding in poorly manintained homes, or unemployment and grog abuse, are all faces of poverty.

Stop kicking and screaming in the face of reality: poverty (whether "comparative' or not) is correlated with crime.

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The ONLY long term solutions for UNEQUAL INCOME AND PROSPERITY in Australia are:-

I think you mean the only solutions for poverty and inequality; "UNEQUAL INCOME AND PROSPERITY" are opposites, apart from the error in "UNEQUAL" - no-one is calling for equal incomes; do try to keep up.

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. fixing the lack of - indeed the impossibility of - any equal distribution in 'jobs' across the nation

Your error: jobs for all (not "equal distribution", a nonsense term - someone has to do the sh*t jobs, and should be highly paid) is a responsibility of government, not an impossibility.

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. fixing the lack of genuine forward planning and infrastructure (planning and implementation) that will secure a future for the nation and its people
. fixing the inherent unwillingness of some to move with the times
. controlling immigration and arranging a general integration and assimilation so that all may pull in the same direction (generally)
. listening to people like me who know stuff

Not too bad, except for your 2nd and 4th points: YOU are unwilling to move with the times re a Job Guarantee (google it); and your last point is delusional.

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #430 - May 10^th, 2025 at 3:44pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 7^th, 2025 at 12:10pm:

Boris wrote on May 7^th, 2025 at 9:16am:

https://www.ntnews.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=NTWEB_WRE170_a_FBK&dest=h...

Glassing, punch-ons: Fears violence becoming ‘worse’ in Top End suburb

As alcohol-fueled violence continues to rock the streets of Palmerston neighbourhood, residents, business owners and a local member are now calling on authorities to crack down on the wild hotspots troubling their suburb.

What? People calling for a politically incorrect solution.
That will never do.

How about fixing the poverty and alienatioin causing the crime?

Politically - actually economically - incorrect?

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #431 - May 10^th, 2025 at 3:50pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 10^th, 2025 at 3:21pm:

Gnads wrote on May 5^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 5^th, 2025 at 3:38pm:

Frank wrote on May 4^th, 2025 at 4:00pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 5:40pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 3:16pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 12:33pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 12:21pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 11:40am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 10:01am:

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Why cannot Aboriginal people in remote communities grow their own veggies?

Because you need white man's technology to grow food in a desert.

Well, finish school and you'll have white man's technology and know how.
It is called civilising effect.

See #410; a supportive family in a functional community is a necessity, to finish school.

Well, get functioning and supportive, then, ffs.

Your error: kids can't change poor parental role models in socio-economically blighted communities. Do try to keep up.

It's entirely within their own control.

Nonsense, you are expecting kids in these communities to be young geniuses, despite the fact poverty is correlated with crime.

Government spending solves so many problems! It must solve problems, right? Otherwise, they wouldn't keep doing it!

Your error: government spending informed by neoclassical NAIRU economists, as at present, merely wastes money on the poverty industry, instead of eradicating poverty and ensuring employment for all.

(see the latest MMT post).

Quote:

And, there you have it! So many problems, solved by the wise and powerful people in government! Thanks, government spending!

Get back to me when the government is actually eradicating poverty.

Did they cause poverty in remote communities?

Yes, due to colonialization ("we smashed their culture").

Do try to keep up.

How did "we smash their culture" in the remote areas of Australia?

Which part of their culture are they not free to practice? (A part from the most violent and barbaric bits).

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 54298 Gender:	Re: Alice Springs - out of control Reply #432 - May 10^th, 2025 at 3:55pm Lower caste Abos were banished to the interior. Hence why a group of them willingly came out of their isolation into the helping hands of a globally saved Australia.
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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #433 - May 10^th, 2025 at 4:08pm

Frank wrote on May 10^th, 2025 at 3:50pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 10^th, 2025 at 3:21pm:

Gnads wrote on May 5^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 5^th, 2025 at 3:38pm:

Frank wrote on May 4^th, 2025 at 4:00pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 5:40pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 3:16pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 12:33pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 12:21pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 11:40am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 10:01am:

Quote:

Why cannot Aboriginal people in remote communities grow their own veggies?

Because you need white man's technology to grow food in a desert.

Well, finish school and you'll have white man's technology and know how.
It is called civilising effect.

See #410; a supportive family in a functional community is a necessity, to finish school.

Well, get functioning and supportive, then, ffs.

Your error: kids can't change poor parental role models in socio-economically blighted communities. Do try to keep up.

It's entirely within their own control.

Nonsense, you are expecting kids in these communities to be young geniuses, despite the fact poverty is correlated with crime.

Government spending solves so many problems! It must solve problems, right? Otherwise, they wouldn't keep doing it!

Your error: government spending informed by neoclassical NAIRU economists, as at present, merely wastes money on the poverty industry, instead of eradicating poverty and ensuring employment for all.

(see the latest MMT post).

Quote:

And, there you have it! So many problems, solved by the wise and powerful people in government! Thanks, government spending!

Get back to me when the government is actually eradicating poverty.

Did they cause poverty in remote communities?

Yes, due to colonialization ("we smashed their culture").

Do try to keep up.

How did "we smash their culture" in the remote areas of Australia?

By collarring them into remote settlements, destroying their h-g economy.

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Which part of their culture are they not free to practice? (A part from the most violent and barbaric bits).

The h-g economy, which relies on unrestricted access to vast swathes of poorly resourced land in desert Oz.

And as for their culture in towns like the Alice and Darwin etc - the "smashed culture" is all too plain to see.

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Re: Alice Springs - out of control
Reply #434 - May 10^th, 2025 at 4:23pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 10^th, 2025 at 4:08pm:

Frank wrote on May 10^th, 2025 at 3:50pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 10^th, 2025 at 3:21pm:

Gnads wrote on May 5^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 5^th, 2025 at 3:38pm:

Frank wrote on May 4^th, 2025 at 4:00pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 5:40pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 3:16pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 12:33pm:

Frank wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 12:21pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 11:40am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 3^rd, 2025 at 10:01am:

Quote:

Why cannot Aboriginal people in remote communities grow their own veggies?

Because you need white man's technology to grow food in a desert.

Well, finish school and you'll have white man's technology and know how.
It is called civilising effect.

See #410; a supportive family in a functional community is a necessity, to finish school.

Well, get functioning and supportive, then, ffs.

Your error: kids can't change poor parental role models in socio-economically blighted communities. Do try to keep up.

It's entirely within their own control.

Nonsense, you are expecting kids in these communities to be young geniuses, despite the fact poverty is correlated with crime.

Government spending solves so many problems! It must solve problems, right? Otherwise, they wouldn't keep doing it!

Your error: government spending informed by neoclassical NAIRU economists, as at present, merely wastes money on the poverty industry, instead of eradicating poverty and ensuring employment for all.

(see the latest MMT post).

Quote:

And, there you have it! So many problems, solved by the wise and powerful people in government! Thanks, government spending!

Get back to me when the government is actually eradicating poverty.

Did they cause poverty in remote communities?

Yes, due to colonialization ("we smashed their culture").

Do try to keep up.

How did "we smash their culture" in the remote areas of Australia?

By collarring them into remote settlements, destroying their h-g economy.

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Which part of their culture are they not free to practice? (A part from the most violent and barbaric bits).

The h-g economy, which relies on unrestricted access to vast swathes of poorly resourced land in desert Oz.

And as for their culture in towns like the Alice and Darwin etc - the "smashed culture" is all too plain to see.

They have unrestricted access to vast swathes of land. They can hunt and gather to their hearts content. They never have to set foot in towns.

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