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The Voice - What could go wrong
Jan 3rd, 2023 at 10:21am
 
Take a small group of a Modern Industrial Society who are known for Lawlessness, Alcoholism, Violence, Rape, Murder and Mayhem.




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And then you put these Lawless rapist murderers in charge - The Voice -

What could go wrong?

If you want this crap - legislate it and then if it doesn't work tweak it and if it still doesn't work - abolish it.

But no - put it in the Constitution - and then Ruin Australia.

We will all have to leave and go live somewhere else - I will go to the USA.
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Reply #1 - Jan 3rd, 2023 at 10:28am
 
It's either that or a civil war to take back the asylum.

Been warning yez about that for ages and some here scream Neo-Nazi for even warning about it... that's how stupid they are in reality.

Victorians already have Dan's Mini-Voice at State level - they are really going to be in the poo big time .... and look at the half-wits in office down there who support all this garbage.... no wonder the high class play is leaving Viccie ... primarily because THEY have no voice.... yet they must scream ....

If Victorians vote all those morons back in they deserve what they get... just don't bring it to the rest of us..
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Reply #2 - Jan 3rd, 2023 at 11:01am
 
There are several ways the government could create a Voice without any Constitutional amendment. The only reason to insist on changing the Constitution is to ‘lock it in’ and ensure whatever the Voice becomes, it can never be undone. Regardless how bad it might turn out to be.
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Reply #3 - Jan 3rd, 2023 at 11:34am
 
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Reply #4 - Jan 3rd, 2023 at 11:48am
 
Boris wrote on Jan 3rd, 2023 at 11:01am:
There are several ways the government could create a Voice without any Constitutional amendment. The only reason to insist on changing the Constitution is to ‘lock it in’ and ensure whatever the Voice becomes, it can never be undone. Regardless how bad it might turn out to be.



Agree.

I can not understand how anyone could vote yes when they have absolutely no idea what they're voting yes to.
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Reply #5 - Jan 3rd, 2023 at 1:26pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 3rd, 2023 at 11:48am:
Boris wrote on Jan 3rd, 2023 at 11:01am:
There are several ways the government could create a Voice without any Constitutional amendment. The only reason to insist on changing the Constitution is to ‘lock it in’ and ensure whatever the Voice becomes, it can never be undone. Regardless how bad it might turn out to be.



Agree.

I can not understand how anyone could vote yes when they have absolutely no idea what they're voting yes to.

They want it in the Constitution to pave the way for the recognition of Aboriginal sovereignty and therefore a treaty with sovereign Aboriginal 'First "'Nations"'.
And then those nations can have a bunfight among themselves about who welcomes who to what 'country'.
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Reply #6 - Jan 3rd, 2023 at 5:27pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 3rd, 2023 at 11:48am:
Boris wrote on Jan 3rd, 2023 at 11:01am:
There are several ways the government could create a Voice without any Constitutional amendment. The only reason to insist on changing the Constitution is to ‘lock it in’ and ensure whatever the Voice becomes, it can never be undone. Regardless how bad it might turn out to be.



Agree.

I can not understand how anyone could vote yes when they have absolutely no idea what they're voting yes to.


Easy. Use the Labor Government and ABC-SBS to campaign the idea that a NO vote is racist. This is intended to sew guilt in the electorate.

However, what could go wrong, putting aside certain paranoid flights of fancy? The Voice could create whole knew bureaucracy based on spurious racial claims as opposed to organisational experience. We've already seen this in the % blood elite in the Voice movement.

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Reply #7 - Jan 3rd, 2023 at 7:49pm
 
Australians voted "Yes" to the High Court in the constitution despite there being no detail about how it was to be structured or how it was to operate.  That detail didn't come until separate legislation two years later.  Seem that politicians were once trusted, why not trust them again?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #8 - Jan 3rd, 2023 at 7:55pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2023 at 7:49pm:
Australians voted "Yes" to the High Court in the constitution despite there being no detail about how it was to be structured or how it was to operate.  That detail didn't come until separate legislation two years later.  Seem that politicians were once trusted, why not trust them again?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Universal suffrage had only just come in - the voting public were amateurs then.... people were naive then .... now they know better than to hand power to any small group or to politicians to cultivate power on the back of any small group, or to hazard the very small protections they actually have on some pipe dream of a few belligerents who are operating in conjunction with a terrorist campaign against this country.
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Reply #9 - Jan 3rd, 2023 at 7:59pm
 
Boris wrote on Jan 3rd, 2023 at 11:01am:
There are several ways the government could create a Voice without any Constitutional amendment. The only reason to insist on changing the Constitution is to ‘lock it in’ and ensure whatever the Voice becomes, it can never be undone. Regardless how bad it might turn out to be.


In which case it would only be overturned via civil war and a new constitution.  That is the risk Albo is running and about which I warned him pre-election.... and warned you lot too.

I once wrote a treatise on the various ways governments can be overthrown and dismissed - that is one of them.... far better for the good of the nation for governments to not court such disaster.

Now - time to start cleaning up their act and drain their own swamps before someone does it for them.

Vote 1 - Grappler Party - We ARE The People!

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Reply #10 - Jan 3rd, 2023 at 8:01pm
 
" Seem that politicians were once trusted, why not trust them again"

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Reply #11 - Jan 3rd, 2023 at 8:07pm
 
"When Anthony Albanese first said he intended to govern like Bob Hawke, it was worth a laugh.

There was nothing in his celebrated Hard Left faction background that suggested he would or could emulate the style of Australia’s greatest post-war Labor prime minister."

"Albanese was never an economic adviser in the Hawke-Keating era. He was an electorate officer and researcher for the hard-Left Minister Tom Uren — and most of that job was just a cover for his real work as a factional organiser in Young Labor.

Uren wrote in his autobiography that giving Albanese a job raised eyebrows in the Left, with some “comrades” saying to him: “Oh, you’re putting a young Trot on your staff”. For those unfamiliar with Labor slang, “Trot” means a follower of Leon Trotsky, a Marxist revolutionary."

https://thewest.com.au/opinion/paul-murray-danger-signs-as-prime-minister-anthon...
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Reply #12 - Jan 3rd, 2023 at 9:48pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2023 at 7:49pm:
Australians voted "Yes" to the High Court in the constitution despite there being no detail about how it was to be structured or how it was to operate.  That detail didn't come until separate legislation two years later.  Seem that politicians were once trusted, why not trust them again?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Stop repeating this idiotic lie, Bbwian.

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Reply #13 - Jan 3rd, 2023 at 11:51pm
 
My question is:-

Once we have once again tried Labor to rectify the wrongs - and they fail dismally to do so while actually adding to them - and nobody wants the return of the LNP with its disastrous government style..... where will the voter go?

I've long said that NO party is doing the job for Australia and its people..... who is left to vote for?

No sane person really wants the Greens with their Nutty Professor style of 'issueism'.... most fear a Parliament filled with genuine Independents since they feel - not only will that not produce a workable government, but it will also, in order to create the semblance of a working government, actually form new parties over which the electorate will have, by losing its Independents, lost control AGAIN.

So who is left?  One Nation with its shallow sofa cushion leader who carries the imprint of the last person to sit on her, and who talks the talk of being One For All, but does not begin to understand how to walk the walk?

Who is left standing?

The Voice?  Are you insane?

Nope - people - and I say this most sincerely - we need a NEW party of the people, for the people, and by the people for ALL of the people and not just special interest groups* ..... and I only borrow that phrase from the US Declaration of Independence to show the guideline to a better future for our nation and its people in these darkening times... not to offer the US style of republic to you... but ONLY to provide to you the skeleton upon which you can build Nation Australia from the ruins.

Who will carry him? 


*never forget that prior to the Bolshevik Revolution, the elitist intellectuals of the Russian Communist Party deemed that The People were their own group and class - i.e. the middle and some of the upper class - and that the common folk were but cattle in the fields to be lead and disposed of at the will of the ruling elite - not a single change from the old Feudal Tsarist system at all.... but like 'feminism' and its assault upon 'the patriarchy' and all the other elitist movements in play at this time INCLUDING the alleged superiority of 'the aboriginal way' = 'aboriginalism' - there was NO intention to dissolve or remove the ruling elite - but merely to replace those in the ruling elite with their own Chosen Ones, so as to possess all of the privileges without any of the real work.

Yes - this is my own work - not some copy and paste, though sometimes I feel I am on the intercom to a ship of fools lead by Sergeant Schultz.....
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Reply #14 - Jan 4th, 2023 at 10:42am
 
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