I can just picture FD and crappler holding hands whilst ranting about what victims they are

freediver wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 1:07pm:


I'll always support your stupidity, no matter how annoying.



You'll need to be specific FD, what policy are you talking about?

freediver wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 9:41am:

An Australian Voice.
Will Aborigines listen?

Gnads wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 2:20pm:

no, I'd just like it spelt out clearly, so I can throw it back at him later.

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 4:27pm:


What native title have the courts declared over Mt Warning?

Who are "they"?

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 4:27pm:


Incorrect. It was/is never a Judge or Magistrates tenure to make law. They are there to apply the law & abide by the constitution....

not make their own interpretations that are then enshrined as gospel/law.

Free The Mountain!  Destroy The Fascist Apartheid!  Drain The Swamps!!  Free Our National Parks!!

Now - on this 'thing' about 'native title' - that leftover from the old original Aboriginal colonialist imperialist ways of claiming land you can see etc - now totally discarded by every other nation on earth and frankly illegal under international law ............. here is the news ......

"traditional owners now have the rights to carry out a number of cultural activities on non-freehold land, such as national parks and crown land."

They don't OWN the land..... these are their rights, and many of those rights already exist in National Parks etc and are shared by all:-

The right to access, move about and traverse. 

Nobody ever stood in their way or that of others.

The right to camp and erect temporary shelters but not to permanently camp or occupy.

Same as above.

The right to hunt and fish for non-commercial purposes.

Not sure on that one - 'others' can't fish or hunt in National Parks.

The right to access and use natural water resources for non-commercial purposes.

Drink at that stream everyone!

The right to gather, share and exchange natural resources  for non-commercial purposes. 

Like any bushwalking or climbing party.

The right to conduct and participate in ceremonial, ritual and spiritual activities.

 Like any bushwalking and climbing party.

The right to maintain and protect places of importance under traditional laws and customs. 

There's the kicker - watch this space - wait for the endless claims etc of 'need' to culturally preserve

The right to transmit traditional knowledge to members of the native title claim group 

Same as any other group using the parks

The right to hold meetings. 

Gather round that fireplace, people.... how'd your bushwalking and climbing go today etc?

Most of this is nonsense and actually concedes nothing unless improperly interpreted and reconciled with all other existing rights - what it comes down to is that it opens the way to Definition Creep, which will come about by claiming that spiritual etc requirements mean barring all others from certain areas - just like Mt Warning and Ayers Rock.  How many traditional and sacred areas and spots can one small group have?  Endless it will be....  and all to exclude everyone else as if by some ancient and outworn right of Indigenous imperialist colonial claim....

TAKE BACK YOUR NATIONAL PARKS!!!!

** tyre shredders out:-

As for 'first nations' - requirements to be a nation:-

[b]These are a settled population, a defined territory, government and the ability to enter into relations with other states. These were originally set out in the 1933 Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States. Even now, these are the benchmarks used by the UN when judging whether to admit a new member.[/b]