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Another sexual harassment/assault case settlement
Dec 19^th, 2022 at 10:02pm

Women who accused Victorian judge of kissing and touching them win settlement

The women came forward with allegations against retired justice Peter Vickery earlier in 2022, before he died.

by Cassandra Morgan / VIC News / Updated 4 hours ago

https://7news.com.au/news/vic/women-who-accused-victorian-judge-of-kissing-and-t...

Two women sexually harassed by a Victorian Supreme Court judge have been awarded a legal settlement.

The women came forward with allegations against retired justice Peter Vickery earlier in 2022, prompting an investigation.

An independent investigator found the judge kissed the two associates who worked for him and put his hands between one woman’s thighs after a dinner.

Vickery maintained his innocence and died from natural causes in April this year, aged 72.

A confidential settlement was reached through mediation with the women after multi-million dollar claims were put to the State of Victoria, their lawyers announced on Monday.

The women were in their 20s at the time, while Vickery was in his 60s.

Maurice Blackburn lawyer Josh Bornstein said his actions were a gross abuse of power by one of the state’s most senior judges against two women just starting their legal careers.

“The conduct of the judge had a profound, damaging impact on both women. One no longer works as a lawyer,” he revealed.

The Supreme Court failed to properly investigate the first case of sexual harassment, increasing the judge’s risk of reoffending, Bornstein said.

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Reply #1 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 10:08pm

Continued ...

Along with the kissing and touching, Vickery also made “unwelcome sexual advances” and deployed sexualised poetry, he said.

Vickery reportedly claimed he fell in love with one of the women, writing to her in an email at her new workplace that “if falling in love with you was and remains a crime, I am guilty”.

He outed himself as the judge involved in the accusations on his website in February, describing himself as having a “heavy heart”.

Had he possessed sufficient awareness about his behaviour he would have, without hesitation, altered it, he said.

“I extend my sincere apologies to both (women) for any distress unknowingly caused,” he said, adding that they deserved respect for their courage in coming forward.

However, he said the report had “serious shortcomings” and the findings were not legally binding.

Vickery was a judge for a decade from 2008.

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Re: Another sexual harassment/assault case settlement
Reply #2 - Dec 20^th, 2022 at 12:47am

Good work if you can get it this possessing a pussy .....

Apres` Brittany la deluge.....

Keep paying suckers.... it's your money they are enjoying for free... no wonder Western men are abandoning Western women...... welcome to your own nightmare, girls... sisters are doing it for themselves because nobody will do it for them any more..... get on with the heavy lifting then ....

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Re: Another sexual harassment/assault case settlement
Reply #3 - Dec 20^th, 2022 at 6:38am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 12:47am:

Good work if you can get it this possessing a pussy .....

Apres` Brittany la deluge.....

Keep paying suckers.... it's your money they are enjoying for free... no wonder Western men are abandoning Western women...... welcome to your own nightmare, girls... sisters are doing it for themselves because nobody will do it for them any more..... get on with the heavy lifting then ....

And this is how women are talked about on here, even if they are proven right in a court of law.

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Reply #4 - Dec 20^th, 2022 at 8:29am

mothra wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 6:38am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 12:47am:

Good work if you can get it this possessing a pussy .....

Apres` Brittany la deluge.....

Keep paying suckers.... it's your money they are enjoying for free... no wonder Western men are abandoning Western women...... welcome to your own nightmare, girls... sisters are doing it for themselves because nobody will do it for them any more..... get on with the heavy lifting then ....

And this is how women are talked about on here, even if they are proven right in a court of law.

Women? What is a woman? "An adult female human being or an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth.” Cambridge Dictionary.

So a woman is a woman or a man. When you have defined woman away, you have defined sexism away.

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Re: Another sexual harassment/assault case settlement
Reply #5 - Dec 20^th, 2022 at 8:31am

Frank wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 8:29am:

mothra wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 6:38am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 12:47am:

Good work if you can get it this possessing a pussy .....

Apres` Brittany la deluge.....

Keep paying suckers.... it's your money they are enjoying for free... no wonder Western men are abandoning Western women...... welcome to your own nightmare, girls... sisters are doing it for themselves because nobody will do it for them any more..... get on with the heavy lifting then ....

And this is how women are talked about on here, even if they are proven right in a court of law.

Women? What is a woman? "An adult female human being or an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth.” Cambridge Dictionary.

So a woman is a woman or a man. When you have defined woman away, you have defined sexism away.

Bet Geoff blames me for this going off-topic.

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Reply #6 - Dec 20^th, 2022 at 8:49am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 19^th, 2022 at 10:08pm:

Continued ...

Along with the kissing and touching, Vickery also made “unwelcome sexual advances” and deployed sexualised poetry, he said.

Vickery reportedly claimed he fell in love with one of the women, writing to her in an email at her new workplace that “if falling in love with you was and remains a crime, I am guilty”.

He outed himself as the judge involved in the accusations on his website in February, describing himself as having a “heavy heart”.

Had he possessed sufficient awareness about his behaviour he would have, without hesitation, altered it, he said.

“I extend my sincere apologies to both (women) for any distress unknowingly caused,” he said, adding that they deserved respect for their courage in coming forward.

However, he said the report had “serious shortcomings” and the findings were not legally binding.

Vickery was a judge for a decade from 2008.

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Reply #7 - Dec 20^th, 2022 at 8:57am

Frank wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 8:49am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 19^th, 2022 at 10:08pm:

Continued ...

Along with the kissing and touching, Vickery also made “unwelcome sexual advances” and deployed sexualised poetry, he said.

Vickery reportedly claimed he fell in love with one of the women, writing to her in an email at her new workplace that “if falling in love with you was and remains a crime, I am guilty”.

He outed himself as the judge involved in the accusations on his website in February, describing himself as having a “heavy heart”.

Had he possessed sufficient awareness about his behaviour he would have, without hesitation, altered it, he said.

“I extend my sincere apologies to both (women) for any distress unknowingly caused,” he said, adding that they deserved respect for their courage in coming forward.

However, he said the report had “serious shortcomings” and the findings were not legally binding.

Vickery was a judge for a decade from 2008.

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Yes of course. It's women's fault for not being resilient enough.

Who's blaming men? That would be frowned upon entirely.

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Re: Another sexual harassment/assault case settlement
Reply #8 - Dec 20^th, 2022 at 9:55am

mothra wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Frank wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 8:49am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 19^th, 2022 at 10:08pm:

Continued ...

Along with the kissing and touching, Vickery also made “unwelcome sexual advances” and deployed sexualised poetry, he said.

Vickery reportedly claimed he fell in love with one of the women, writing to her in an email at her new workplace that “if falling in love with you was and remains a crime, I am guilty”.

He outed himself as the judge involved in the accusations on his website in February, describing himself as having a “heavy heart”.

Had he possessed sufficient awareness about his behaviour he would have, without hesitation, altered it, he said.

“I extend my sincere apologies to both (women) for any distress unknowingly caused,” he said, adding that they deserved respect for their courage in coming forward.

However, he said the report had “serious shortcomings” and the findings were not legally binding.

Vickery was a judge for a decade from 2008.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fj4Ixf0X0AAP_b5?.jpg

Yes of course. It's women's fault for not being resilient enough.

Who's blaming men? That would be frowned upon entirely.

Yes that’s the path it’s going by the looks.

I mean, how dare we females wear lovely clothing or even a bit glam/sexy, makeup and jewellery?
Is it any wonder so many dress manly/butch/dull looking to not bring attention to themselves?

That quote by Ms Lumley…. I understand her generations’ mentality… I’m within a decade not far behind hers.
Yes we females had to be tougher/resilient and put up with… we had no choice, we felt no one was on side with us.
We were not allowed into pubs either. Only men could apply for a loan. Etc
Men had so many privileges back then… got away with a lot!
Women had to know their place otherwise many were beaten.
Not all… but that’s the way it was.
Sexism was rife…. The amount of it I had to put up with while growing up was very puzzling to me, I developed at a very early age… and I hated the attention … attention I never actively sought.
It made me wish I were born male.

Fast forward to this day and age…. I see how so many sexual harassment cases are brought forward from past… because nothing could be done back then… whereas now there is more awareness.
I did wonder why… 20 or so years later it’s brought up….

But….is it this compensation/payout that that’s driving some cases to come forward from past?

I see in these modern times that males can be victims too…. Some girls can be unscrupulous… I know this for a fact.

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Re: Another sexual harassment/assault case settlement
Reply #9 - Dec 20^th, 2022 at 12:59pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 19^th, 2022 at 10:08pm:

Continued ...

Along with the kissing and touching, Vickery also made “unwelcome sexual advances” and deployed sexualised poetry, he said.

Vickery reportedly claimed he fell in love with one of the women, writing to her in an email at her new workplace that “if falling in love with you was and remains a crime, I am guilty”.

He outed himself as the judge involved in the accusations on his website in February, describing himself as having a “heavy heart”.

Had he possessed sufficient awareness about his behaviour he would have, without hesitation, altered it, he said.

“I extend my sincere apologies to both (women) for any distress unknowingly caused,” he said, adding that they deserved respect for their courage in coming forward.

However, he said the report had “serious shortcomings” and the findings were not legally binding.

Vickery was a judge for a decade from 2008.

How ironic that the judge's comments are about HIS OWN behaviour. How would he have judged someone else if he was given that excuse?

What a self-serving, sanctimonious hypocrite.

Corruption and cover ups define the personality of our legal and police systems in Australia. Only a naive fool could ever put their trust in these structures. i

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Re: Another sexual harassment/assault case settlement
Reply #10 - Dec 20^th, 2022 at 1:01pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 12:47am:

Good work if you can get it this possessing a pussy .....

Apres` Brittany la deluge.....

Keep paying suckers.... it's your money they are enjoying for free... no wonder Western men are abandoning Western women...... welcome to your own nightmare, girls... sisters are doing it for themselves because nobody will do it for them any more..... get on with the heavy lifting then ....

if your not guilty don't pay.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 77706 Gender:	Re: Another sexual harassment/assault case settlement Reply #11 - Dec 20^th, 2022 at 1:02pm Frank wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 8:29am: Women? What is a woman? . Who here is surprised that Frank don't know what a woman is?
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Re: Another sexual harassment/assault case settlement
Reply #12 - Dec 20^th, 2022 at 2:26pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 9:55am:

mothra wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Frank wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 8:49am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 19^th, 2022 at 10:08pm:

Continued ...

Along with the kissing and touching, Vickery also made “unwelcome sexual advances” and deployed sexualised poetry, he said.

Vickery reportedly claimed he fell in love with one of the women, writing to her in an email at her new workplace that “if falling in love with you was and remains a crime, I am guilty”.

He outed himself as the judge involved in the accusations on his website in February, describing himself as having a “heavy heart”.

Had he possessed sufficient awareness about his behaviour he would have, without hesitation, altered it, he said.

“I extend my sincere apologies to both (women) for any distress unknowingly caused,” he said, adding that they deserved respect for their courage in coming forward.

However, he said the report had “serious shortcomings” and the findings were not legally binding.

Vickery was a judge for a decade from 2008.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fj4Ixf0X0AAP_b5?.jpg

Yes of course. It's women's fault for not being resilient enough.

Who's blaming men? That would be frowned upon entirely.

Yes that’s the path it’s going by the looks.

I mean, how dare we females wear lovely clothing or even a bit glam/sexy, makeup and jewellery?
Is it any wonder so many dress manly/butch/dull looking to not bring attention to themselves?

That quote by Ms Lumley…. I understand her generations’ mentality… I’m within a decade not far behind hers.
Yes we females had to be tougher/resilient and put up with… we had no choice, we felt no one was on side with us.
We were not allowed into pubs either. Only men could apply for a loan. Etc
Men had so many privileges back then… got away with a lot!
Women had to know their place otherwise many were beaten.
Not all… but that’s the way it was.
Sexism was rife…. The amount of it I had to put up with while growing up was very puzzling to me, I developed at a very early age… and I hated the attention … attention I never actively sought.
It made me wish I were born male.

Fast forward to this day and age…. I see how so many sexual harassment cases are brought forward from past… because nothing could be done back then… whereas now there is more awareness.
I did wonder why… 20 or so years later it’s brought up….

But….is it this compensation/payout that that’s driving some cases to come forward from past?

I see in these modern times that males can be victims too…. Some girls can be unscrupulous… I know this for a fact.

Yeah well those type of women definitely draw attention to themselves

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Reply #13 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 11:58am

mothra wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 6:38am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 20^th, 2022 at 12:47am:

Good work if you can get it this possessing a pussy .....

Apres` Brittany la deluge.....

Keep paying suckers.... it's your money they are enjoying for free... no wonder Western men are abandoning Western women...... welcome to your own nightmare, girls... sisters are doing it for themselves because nobody will do it for them any more..... get on with the heavy lifting then ....

And this is how women are talked about on here, even if they are proven right in a court of law.

Do not judge all men on the rantings of some mysoginistic arseholes Mothra....I like most men have seen and heard what some blokes say and how they treat woman....There is a problem with some men who think woman are somehow inferior to them....It is pointless trying to reason with these Neanderthal's!!!

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Another sexual harassment/assault case settlement Reply #14 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 3:59pm Do not judge all men.... Judges ARE the men doing that which is vile and unacceptable. And excusing/minimising such behaviour ffs!
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