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Reply #75 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:45pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 10:53am:
And yet the catchcry is that it is Whitey who is creating the race war ....absolute nonsense and why isn't this jerk in the cells with a pair of football socks?


I agree.

Noel Pearson recognizes we are all human first, ethnicities/cultures second; I wonder what Price and Mundine (and Pearson) think about the Mt. Warning bans?


[but just to remind everyone re closing the gap: "it's the economy - ie, economic system -. stupid").


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Reply #76 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:48pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:45pm:
Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 10:53am:
[quote author=Gnads link=1671057927/68#68 date=1671225895]
And yet the catchcry is that it is Whitey who is creating the race war ....absolute nonsense and why isn't this jerk in the cells with a pair of football socks?


I agree.

Noel Pearson recognizes we are all human first, ethnicities/cultures second; I wonder what Price and Mundine (and Pearson) think about the Mt. Warning bans?




Yes - we are... haven't heard what P & M think about closure of Mt Warning.
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Reply #77 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 2:11pm
 


Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1511916603/4#4
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'Western philosophy is racist' [thread title]




A STORY OF 'TWO MEN'.....


The 1st man acquires skills,
he works, and gathers materials,
he works, and builds a house,
and after his house is built....

A 2nd man then see's the 1st man's house, and he is envious of the 1st man and of what he possesses.

The 1st man then asserts, that he believes that he should have the primary right, to decide who enters and resides in the house that he built.

His house.

QUESTION;
If the 2nd man says that the 1st man has selfish attitude, is he correct ?




QUESTION      To all of those persons who call the 1st man selfish;
Why didn't the 2nd man and his friends choose to ALSO, acquires skills, to ALSO work and gather materials, to ALSO work and build their own houses ?





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Reply #78 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 2:24pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:32pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 6:22am:
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so you need to identify which part is  "communist party gibberish"


All of it. It is also meaningless.


Fail. "Meaningless" to you maybe; let's take it slowly for you: 

We are discussing behaviour AND ideology, beginning with:

1. The self-preserving, unconscious, instinctive 'survival' mechanisms, located in the 'reptilian brain - 'basal ganglia' in humans:   

"In MacLean's triune brain model, the basal ganglia are referred to as the reptilian or primal brain, as this structure is in control of our innate and automatic self-preserving behavior patterns, which ensure our survival and that of our species.

Note the observation: "our survival" meaning each one of us (ie the individual), compared with "our species" meaning the collective (homo sapiens).

Understood, so far?








https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x44jd99

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Reply #79 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 2:49pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:34pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:32pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 6:22am:
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so you need to identify which part is  "communist party gibberish"


All of it. It is also meaningless.


Fail. "Meaningless" to you maybe; let's take it slowly for you: 

We are discussing behaviour AND ideology, beginning with:

1. The self-preserving, unconscious, instinctive 'survival' mechanisms, located in the 'reptilian brain - 'basal ganglia' in humans:   

"In MacLean's triune brain model, the basal ganglia are referred to as the reptilian or primal brain, as this structure is in control of our innate and automatic self-preserving behavior patterns, which ensure our survival and that of our species.

Note the observation: "our survival" meaning each one of us (ie the individual), compared with "our species" meaning the collective (homo sapiens).

Understood, so far?


Ooh, I can't wait till you get to the meaningless communist party gibberish. Go on.


Ah, I will assume you have understood the first of the three related concepts presented in my "meaningless c.p. gibberish".  That's progress, so let's look at #2:

2.  "delusional 'individual natural rights', which don't exist in nature; only conscious desires exist among humans, in nature".

ie 'individual natural rights', such as posited "rights" to life, liberty, property, etc etc (add your own desires) which are expressions of the desires located in the sub-conscious 'mammalian brain', and conscious 'cortex brain' (of the triune brain already noted).

eg, subconscious (mammalian) claims (or desires)  among  the higher animals (mammals) for territory; compared with conscious ego-driven claims (or desires)  for personal property, among humans.

Note: the very basic "desire" for life (confused with a postulated "right to life" which doesn't exist in nature because nature doesn't give two hoots about your individual survival) is more properly described as the INSTINCT for life, located in the basal ganglia, as already discussed; "desire for life" is moot. 

otoh, the desire for "liberty" is less instinct and more conscious desire, eg crocodiles certainly aren't aware of the existence of liberty, but presumably the 'higher' (larger-brained)  mammals are.

Can you see the difference between claims (or desires) - conscious or subconscious - which exist in objective reality (nature), compared with postulated so-called "natural individual rights" which are inventions of the human 'cortex' brain, and do NOT exist in objective reality/nature?

Or can you show us that a "right" to life - and any other thing you might wish to claim as a "natural right" - does indeed exist in objective reality, when I have already shown nature doesn't even recognise the king of all individual "natural rights" ie the "right to the life" (of the individual?


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Reply #80 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 3:28pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 2:49pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:34pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:32pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 6:22am:
Quote:
so you need to identify which part is  "communist party gibberish"


All of it. It is also meaningless.


Fail. "Meaningless" to you maybe; let's take it slowly for you: 

We are discussing behaviour AND ideology, beginning with:

1. The self-preserving, unconscious, instinctive 'survival' mechanisms, located in the 'reptilian brain - 'basal ganglia' in humans:   

"In MacLean's triune brain model, the basal ganglia are referred to as the reptilian or primal brain, as this structure is in control of our innate and automatic self-preserving behavior patterns, which ensure our survival and that of our species.

Note the observation: "our survival" meaning each one of us (ie the individual), compared with "our species" meaning the collective (homo sapiens).

Understood, so far?


Ooh, I can't wait till you get to the meaningless communist party gibberish. Go on.


Ah, I will assume you have understood the first of the three related concepts presented in my "meaningless c.p. gibberish".  That's progress, so let's look at #2:

2.  "delusional 'individual natural rights', which don't exist in nature; only conscious desires exist among humans, in nature".

ie 'individual natural rights', such as posited "rights" to life, liberty, property, etc etc (add your own desires) which are expressions of the desires located in the sub-conscious 'mammalian brain', and conscious 'cortex brain' (of the triune brain already noted).

eg, subconscious (mammalian) claims (or desires)  among  the higher animals (mammals) for territory; compared with conscious ego-driven claims (or desires)  for personal property, among humans.

Note: the very basic "desire" for life (confused with a postulated "right to life" which doesn't exist in nature because nature doesn't give two hoots about your individual survival) is more properly described as the INSTINCT for life, located in the basal ganglia, as already discussed; "desire for life" is moot. 

otoh, the desire for "liberty" is less instinct and more conscious desire, eg crocodiles certainly aren't aware of the existence of liberty, but presumably the 'higher' (larger-brained)  mammals are.

Can you see the difference between claims (or desires) - conscious or subconscious - which exist in objective reality (nature), compared with postulated so-called "natural individual rights" which are inventions of the human 'cortex' brain, and do NOT exist in objective reality/nature?

Or can you show us that a "right" to life - and any other thing you might wish to claim as a "natural right" - does indeed exist in objective reality, when I have already shown nature doesn't even recognise the king of all individual "natural rights" ie the "right to the life" (of the individual?




Exactly. Meaningless communist party gibberish.
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Reply #81 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 5:25pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 3:28pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 2:49pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:34pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:32pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 6:22am:
Quote:
so you need to identify which part is  "communist party gibberish"


All of it. It is also meaningless.


Fail. "Meaningless" to you maybe; let's take it slowly for you: 

We are discussing behaviour AND ideology, beginning with:

1. The self-preserving, unconscious, instinctive 'survival' mechanisms, located in the 'reptilian brain - 'basal ganglia' in humans:   

"In MacLean's triune brain model, the basal ganglia are referred to as the reptilian or primal brain, as this structure is in control of our innate and automatic self-preserving behavior patterns, which ensure our survival and that of our species.

Note the observation: "our survival" meaning each one of us (ie the individual), compared with "our species" meaning the collective (homo sapiens).

Understood, so far?


Ooh, I can't wait till you get to the meaningless communist party gibberish. Go on.


Ah, I will assume you have understood the first of the three related concepts presented in my "meaningless c.p. gibberish".  That's progress, so let's look at #2:

2.  "delusional 'individual natural rights', which don't exist in nature; only conscious desires exist among humans, in nature".

ie 'individual natural rights', such as posited "rights" to life, liberty, property, etc etc (add your own desires) which are expressions of the desires located in the sub-conscious 'mammalian brain', and conscious 'cortex brain' (of the triune brain already noted).

eg, subconscious (mammalian) claims (or desires)  among  the higher animals (mammals) for territory; compared with conscious ego-driven claims (or desires)  for personal property, among humans.

Note: the very basic "desire" for life (confused with a postulated "right to life" which doesn't exist in nature because nature doesn't give two hoots about your individual survival) is more properly described as the INSTINCT for life, located in the basal ganglia, as already discussed; "desire for life" is moot. 

otoh, the desire for "liberty" is less instinct and more conscious desire, eg crocodiles certainly aren't aware of the existence of liberty, but presumably the 'higher' (larger-brained)  mammals are.

Can you see the difference between claims (or desires) - conscious or subconscious - which exist in objective reality (nature), compared with postulated so-called "natural individual rights" which are inventions of the human 'cortex' brain, and do NOT exist in objective reality/nature?

Or can you show us that a "right" to life - and any other thing you might wish to claim as a "natural right" - does indeed exist in objective reality, when I have already shown nature doesn't even recognise the king of all individual "natural rights" ie the "right to the life" (of the individual?


Exactly. Meaningless communist party gibberish.

Fail, of course.

You claimed you understood #1, but are suddenly incapable of addressing /refuting ANY of #2.

...because you can't, and refuse to defend or even outline a reasoned basis for what I refer to as your "delusional "'freedom values'" ideology, whereas I have at least outlined a reasoned basis for what you refer to "meaningless  c.p. gibberish". 

Frauddiver in full self-interested, delusional ideology mode ....exposed for all to see.
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Reply #82 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 5:30pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 2:49pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:34pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:32pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 6:22am:
Quote:
so you need to identify which part is  "communist party gibberish"


All of it. It is also meaningless.


Fail. "Meaningless" to you maybe; let's take it slowly for you: 

We are discussing behaviour AND ideology, beginning with:

1. The self-preserving, unconscious, instinctive 'survival' mechanisms, located in the 'reptilian brain - 'basal ganglia' in humans:   

"In MacLean's triune brain model, the basal ganglia are referred to as the reptilian or primal brain, as this structure is in control of our innate and automatic self-preserving behavior patterns, which ensure our survival and that of our species.

Note the observation: "our survival" meaning each one of us (ie the individual), compared with "our species" meaning the collective (homo sapiens).

Understood, so far?


Ooh, I can't wait till you get to the meaningless communist party gibberish. Go on.


Ah, I will assume you have understood the first of the three related concepts presented in my "meaningless c.p. gibberish".  That's progress, so let's look at #2:

2.  "delusional 'individual natural rights', which don't exist in nature; only conscious desires exist among humans, in nature".

ie 'individual natural rights', such as posited "rights" to life, liberty, property, etc etc (add your own desires) which are expressions of the desires located in the sub-conscious 'mammalian brain', and conscious 'cortex brain' (of the triune brain already noted).

eg, subconscious (mammalian) claims (or desires)  among  the higher animals (mammals) for territory; compared with conscious ego-driven claims (or desires)  for personal property, among humans.

Note: the very basic "desire" for life (confused with a postulated "right to life" which doesn't exist in nature because nature doesn't give two hoots about your individual survival) is more properly described as the INSTINCT for life, located in the basal ganglia, as already discussed; "desire for life" is moot. 

otoh, the desire for "liberty" is less instinct and more conscious desire, eg crocodiles certainly aren't aware of the existence of liberty, but presumably the 'higher' (larger-brained)  mammals are.

Can you see the difference between claims (or desires) - conscious or subconscious - which exist in objective reality (nature), compared with postulated so-called "natural individual rights" which are inventions of the human 'cortex' brain, and do NOT exist in objective reality/nature?

Or can you show us that a "right" to life - and any other thing you might wish to claim as a "natural right" - does indeed exist in objective reality, when I have already shown nature doesn't even recognise the king of all individual "natural rights" ie the "right to the life" (of the individual?





This is such a load of idiotic crap.

Everyone else has reptilian brain but you are observing objective reality with some other brain (a badly damaged one, I'd hazard). You are pushing self-contradictory, incoherent stupid to its limits. Carry on, give us another one.




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Reply #83 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 5:43pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 8:55am:
Yeah I agree.
Extreme left wing ideals are the true racists.
They catagorise you by your opinions.
Catogorising is the start of separation.
Their fascist ways leave no boundaries.
Others here have even made excuses for poor behaviour of current aborigines, blaming "our type".

Left wing terrorists are losing voice.
Even Hollywood and the like are starting to wake up to these woke wankers.



Newsflash for you, but aren't you with that statement characterising those on the left for their opinions? Cheesy

Why are all right wingers morons? Roll Eyes
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Reply #84 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 6:14pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 5:30pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 2:49pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:34pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:32pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 6:22am:
Quote:
so you need to identify which part is  "communist party gibberish"


All of it. It is also meaningless.


Fail. "Meaningless" to you maybe; let's take it slowly for you: 

We are discussing behaviour AND ideology, beginning with:

1. The self-preserving, unconscious, instinctive 'survival' mechanisms, located in the 'reptilian brain - 'basal ganglia' in humans:   

"In MacLean's triune brain model, the basal ganglia are referred to as the reptilian or primal brain, as this structure is in control of our innate and automatic self-preserving behavior patterns, which ensure our survival and that of our species.

Note the observation: "our survival" meaning each one of us (ie the individual), compared with "our species" meaning the collective (homo sapiens).

Understood, so far?


Ooh, I can't wait till you get to the meaningless communist party gibberish. Go on.


Ah, I will assume you have understood the first of the three related concepts presented in my "meaningless c.p. gibberish".  That's progress, so let's look at #2:

2.  "delusional 'individual natural rights', which don't exist in nature; only conscious desires exist among humans, in nature".

ie 'individual natural rights', such as posited "rights" to life, liberty, property, etc etc (add your own desires) which are expressions of the desires located in the sub-conscious 'mammalian brain', and conscious 'cortex brain' (of the triune brain already noted).

eg, subconscious (mammalian) claims (or desires)  among  the higher animals (mammals) for territory; compared with conscious ego-driven claims (or desires)  for personal property, among humans.

Note: the very basic "desire" for life (confused with a postulated "right to life" which doesn't exist in nature because nature doesn't give two hoots about your individual survival) is more properly described as the INSTINCT for life, located in the basal ganglia, as already discussed; "desire for life" is moot. 

otoh, the desire for "liberty" is less instinct and more conscious desire, eg crocodiles certainly aren't aware of the existence of liberty, but presumably the 'higher' (larger-brained)  mammals are.

Can you see the difference between claims (or desires) - conscious or subconscious - which exist in objective reality (nature), compared with postulated so-called "natural individual rights" which are inventions of the human 'cortex' brain, and do NOT exist in objective reality/nature?

Or can you show us that a "right" to life - and any other thing you might wish to claim as a "natural right" - does indeed exist in objective reality, when I have already shown nature doesn't even recognise the king of all individual "natural rights" ie the "right to the life" (of the individual?





This is such a load of idiotic crap.


Frauddiver can't say why, let's see what you've got:

Quote:
Everyone else has reptilian brain.....


Fail, from the very beginning: everyone has a reptilian brain  - along with a mammalian and cortex brain ......didn't you read about the human triune brain in post #73 (in the course of this exploration of the basis of opposing ideologies?

Quote:
Carry on, give us another one.


Are you going to walk into the same trap as FD, exposing yourself as an ideological fraud too? 

The material in point#1 has apparently been vetted and passed by FD in his post #74, but he has baulked at point #2 in his post #80. 

He needs your assistance, can you help? 

 

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Reply #85 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 6:38pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 10:53am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:24am:
Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 5:29pm:
I was busy yestiddee - anyone hear the latest on the gathering to protest Mt Warning closure?  14th, December ... might make those arseholes in Macquarie Street realise there are more 'stakeholders' than those they let through the door while locking all others out.... that kind of BS has got to stop NOW!!

HANDS OFF OUR NATIONAL PARKS!!!


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I heard that the local Council(I think) was looking to make some sort of compromise for hikers to continue climbing... .i.e. having an Aboriginal guide for every group or some such. Maintaining
the tourism aspect.

Local Aboriginal Group still sticking with no non Aboriginals to be climbing/walking it. Never mind the white Aboriginal who was making threats to violence & property(car) vandalism to any non Aboriginals who dare still go there.


And yet the catchcry is that it is Whitey who is creating the race war ....absolute nonsense and why isn't this jerk in the cells with a pair of football socks?

They may well get what they desire.... I can't teach stupid and selfish people who won't grow into the 21st Century. It may well be, with the endless vandalism of things White going on around that region, that someone will consider a Tarrant solution.... he was from that region ....  if that happens - I TOLD YOU SO!!

National Parks are NATIONAL these days and there for a good reason - to preserve the things that are worth preserving for ALL ....- they belong to all Australians.... not some special interest group.  You wouldn't hand it to a gas company to frack, would you, just so they can earn out of it.


Because he has a mental disability after a medical episode.
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Reply #86 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 6:42pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:45pm:
Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 10:53am:
And yet the catchcry is that it is Whitey who is creating the race war ....absolute nonsense and why isn't this jerk in the cells with a pair of football socks?


I agree.

Noel Pearson recognizes we are all human first, ethnicities/cultures second; I wonder what Price and Mundine (and Pearson) think about the Mt. Warning bans?


[but just to remind everyone re closing the gap: "it's the economy - ie, economic system -. stupid").





If that were true he wouldn't be pushing for a separate/race based "voice" to Parliament...

a committee he wants to be on ... ch- ching ching
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Reply #87 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 6:44pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 5:43pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 8:55am:
Yeah I agree.
Extreme left wing ideals are the true racists.
They catagorise you by your opinions.
Catogorising is the start of separation.
Their fascist ways leave no boundaries.
Others here have even made excuses for poor behaviour of current aborigines, blaming "our type".

Left wing terrorists are losing voice.
Even Hollywood and the like are starting to wake up to these woke wankers.



Newsflash for you, but aren't you with that statement characterising those on the left for their opinions? Cheesy

Why are all right wingers morons? Roll Eyes


I'm not a "right" winger .... there are equally if not more left wing morons. Wink
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Reply #88 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 6:59pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 5:30pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 2:49pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:34pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:32pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 6:22am:
Quote:
so you need to identify which part is  "communist party gibberish"


All of it. It is also meaningless.


Fail. "Meaningless" to you maybe; let's take it slowly for you: 

We are discussing behaviour AND ideology, beginning with:

1. The self-preserving, unconscious, instinctive 'survival' mechanisms, located in the 'reptilian brain - 'basal ganglia' in humans:   

"In MacLean's triune brain model, the basal ganglia are referred to as the reptilian or primal brain, as this structure is in control of our innate and automatic self-preserving behavior patterns, which ensure our survival and that of our species.

Note the observation: "our survival" meaning each one of us (ie the individual), compared with "our species" meaning the collective (homo sapiens).

Understood, so far?


Ooh, I can't wait till you get to the meaningless communist party gibberish. Go on.


Ah, I will assume you have understood the first of the three related concepts presented in my "meaningless c.p. gibberish".  That's progress, so let's look at #2:

2.  "delusional 'individual natural rights', which don't exist in nature; only conscious desires exist among humans, in nature".

ie 'individual natural rights', such as posited "rights" to life, liberty, property, etc etc (add your own desires) which are expressions of the desires located in the sub-conscious 'mammalian brain', and conscious 'cortex brain' (of the triune brain already noted).

eg, subconscious (mammalian) claims (or desires)  among  the higher animals (mammals) for territory; compared with conscious ego-driven claims (or desires)  for personal property, among humans.

Note: the very basic "desire" for life (confused with a postulated "right to life" which doesn't exist in nature because nature doesn't give two hoots about your individual survival) is more properly described as the INSTINCT for life, located in the basal ganglia, as already discussed; "desire for life" is moot. 

otoh, the desire for "liberty" is less instinct and more conscious desire, eg crocodiles certainly aren't aware of the existence of liberty, but presumably the 'higher' (larger-brained)  mammals are.

Can you see the difference between claims (or desires) - conscious or subconscious - which exist in objective reality (nature), compared with postulated so-called "natural individual rights" which are inventions of the human 'cortex' brain, and do NOT exist in objective reality/nature?

Or can you show us that a "right" to life - and any other thing you might wish to claim as a "natural right" - does indeed exist in objective reality, when I have already shown nature doesn't even recognise the king of all individual "natural rights" ie the "right to the life" (of the individual?





This is such a load of idiotic crap.


Frauddiver can't say why, let's see what you've got:

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Everyone else has reptilian brain.....


Fail, from the very beginning: everyone has a reptilian brain  - along with a mammalian and cortex brain ......didn't you read about the human triune brain in post #73 (in the course of this exploration of the basis of opposing ideologies?

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Carry on, give us another one.


Are you going to walk into the same trap as FD, exposing yourself as an ideological fraud too? 

The material in point#1 has apparently been vetted and passed by FD in his post #74, but he has baulked at point #2 in his post #80. 

He needs your assistance, can you help? 

 



I'll tell you why it is crap. It is meaningless communist party gibberish.
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Re: racism, sexism = aboriginal 'culture'
Reply #89 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:01pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 6:44pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 5:43pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 8:55am:
Yeah I agree.
Extreme left wing ideals are the true racists.
They catagorise you by your opinions.
Catogorising is the start of separation.
Their fascist ways leave no boundaries.
Others here have even made excuses for poor behaviour of current aborigines, blaming "our type".

Left wing terrorists are losing voice.
Even Hollywood and the like are starting to wake up to these woke wankers.



Newsflash for you, but aren't you with that statement characterising those on the left for their opinions? Cheesy

Why are all right wingers morons? Roll Eyes


I'm not a "right" winger .... there are equally if not more left wing morons. Wink


Feeling guilty perhaps? Roll Eyes
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