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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 87463 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: racism, sexism = aboriginal 'culture' Reply #60 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 7:55pm freediver wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 7:39pm: Mothra and a few others here simply do not understand what racism and such are in the real world....
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Reply #61 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 7:56pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

I just notice how Peccary, Monk, Smith and Aussie haven't jumped in to help their beloved Mothra friend.
Just goes to show how 'gutless' they really are.

Mothra's been caught with her hand in the cookie jar and none of them do their usual to help her out.

Maybe your friends are just 'sexist' Mothra? Huh

We live in a time when opportunism reigns supreme.... in all spheres of human interaction......

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 87463 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: racism, sexism = aboriginal 'culture' Reply #62 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 7:57pm .
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Reply #63 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 11:28am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 7:36pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 2:20pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:43pm:

You mean "delusional individual 'freedom values' ideology", explained previously?

Often it's more like 'filthy, hateful, delusional individual 'freedom values' ideology'.

Do you masturbate while stringing adjectives or just clutch at a pearl necklace?

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Dear Lisa, perhaps you can address the issues.

Instinctive 'survival of the fittest', delusional 'individual natural rights' (which don't exist in nature), liberal "freedom values" ideology (conveniently favouring the most competitive) ......

Explains the insane human condition of endless wars and endless poverty, in a world of plenty.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50244 At my desk.	Re: racism, sexism = aboriginal 'culture' Reply #64 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 6:36pm Meaningless communist party gibberish.
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Reply #65 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 7:17pm

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 6:36pm:

Meaningless communist party gibberish.

Care to defend your statement?

eg, I don't think the CCP is ready to accept my view of 'national sovereignty' (delusional, if we want global peace and security for all), so you need to identify which part is "communist party gibberish" and why you believe it to be so.

That's what understanding ideology is all about.

Here it is again for your convenience:

Western ideology, based in:

1. Instinctive 'survival of the fittest' behaviours (ie based on the organism's survival instincts)

2. delusional 'individual natural rights', which don't exist in nature; only conscious desires exist among humans, in nature.

3. , self-interested, liberal "freedom values", conveniently favouring the most competitive ......

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50244 At my desk.	Re: racism, sexism = aboriginal 'culture' Reply #66 - Dec 17^th, 2022 at 6:22am Quote: so you need to identify which part is "communist party gibberish" All of it. It is also meaningless.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52106 Gender:	Re: racism, sexism = aboriginal 'culture' Reply #67 - Dec 17^th, 2022 at 6:39am Racism - its not really a political thing. More like a Media thing. Afterall, there's x8 races on this planet, but the Media just seems to support only x1.
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Reply #68 - Dec 17^th, 2022 at 7:24am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 5:29pm:

I was busy yestiddee - anyone hear the latest on the gathering to protest Mt Warning closure? 14th, December ... might make those arseholes in Macquarie Street realise there are more 'stakeholders' than those they let through the door while locking all others out.... that kind of BS has got to stop NOW!!

HANDS OFF OUR NATIONAL PARKS!!!

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I heard that the local Council(I think) was looking to make some sort of compromise for hikers to continue climbing... .i.e. having an Aboriginal guide for every group or some such. Maintaining
the tourism aspect.

Local Aboriginal Group still sticking with no non Aboriginals to be climbing/walking it. Never mind the white Aboriginal who was making threats to violence & property(car) vandalism to any non Aboriginals who dare still go there.

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Reply #69 - Dec 17^th, 2022 at 7:27am

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 6:03pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 4:25pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 4:03pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 2:30pm:

Boris wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 11:05am:

Indigenous teacher was racist to indigenous people says indigenous student.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11535709/Wieambilla-shooting-Student-sa...

I don't believe that woman for a minute.

I can bet you she was a disruptive influence at school as were many others at that school .. & old mate wasn't putting up with it.

She'd be calling him a racist because of how white he is .... nothing about her behaviour at the time.

Never her fault.

So much for him being Aboriginal - how is an Aboriginal racist to another Aboriginal?

The other schools he taught at had nothing but praise for his methods & results.

I don't know why that article had to have 4 photos of Chantelle Kari.

Agreed.
The media used that for effect, and the kid used the story for revenge.

Have to agree - why would he do that being part-Indigenous himself? From reports he was OK earlier on.... just went the rat for some reason over a period of time. I can understand frustration with the school system as it exists..... and again I'd like to hear from Mark Latham a little more on the actual content of these discussions etc.

Daily Mail and this looks like a grab for five minutes fame and a lifetime of pretending to be a 'star' on something in the event she gets an 'agent' ambulance-chasing her...

Sad really.... his smile looks genuine in the early photos - what happened to him?

Mate, if it is the ice, then I know why.
Sadly, I have lost all of my childhood friends to this drug.
I hate it.
And I've never met a successful, well off, in control user yet.
It gets them all.

That truly is a sad & bad thing.

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Re: racism, sexism = aboriginal 'culture'
Reply #70 - Dec 17^th, 2022 at 9:10am

freediver wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 7:39pm:

More feeble excuses for racism and sexism from Mothra. Apparently the racism on this board is violating people's human rights, but actually banning people from a national park on the basis of race and gender isn't.

mothra wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 9:03am:

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 9:00am:

mothra wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 8:20am:

freediver wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 8:11am:

mothra wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 8:03am:

freediver wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 7:59am:

mothra wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 7:42am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 7:40am:

Freediver would this work? 👇

I choose to identify as an Aboriginal. Now step aside and let me walk wherever/whenever I feel like it.

Whilst Fleadriver would probably be titillated by your inanity, all you're really doing is showing quite astonishing ignorance.

That and a significant amount of bootlicking.

Fortunately for you, Fleadriver likes that.

Mothra are you in favour of excluding people from national parks on the basis of gender and race?

Who is the real racist?

As i have patiently tried to explain to you on several occasions, this is a disingenuous question. It is designed entirely to provide you the only answer you want.

I'm not playing.

By the way, does the way Larry crawls up you arse give you a semi?

Oh look, the alleged rape victim throwing around sexual euphemisms. Nice.

Asking you whether you support racist government policy is not a disingenuous question. It is about as straight as it gets, and your response is about as slippery as it gets.

At least racists like you have the sense to run and hide from the light of reason. I give it about two more posts before you disappear.

What you call disappear is simply me giving up on you. And you're lucky to get this reply.

Of course it's disingenuous. It's not racist or sexist. It is cultural. It is about identifying with a culture that mystifies you so you reject it utterly. You don't even try to understand it.

There is men's country and women's country. Most of it is shared. But that again is about the culture you refuse to even try to understand.

Little wonder your forum is essentially and Aboriginal bash. Oh, and a Muslim bash. You're other hobby horse.

Cultivated quite the following haven't you.

As for the rape swipe, about what i'd expect of you.

So SOME exclusionary cultural practices must be understood and endorsed.
As long as they are not European. European sex and race segregation - bad, patriarchal, racist.

Aboriginal, Muslim sex and race segregation - good, enriching, to be understood and approved.

No Frank. Practices that represent cultural traditions but do not violate human rights should have full consideration.

Western, Eastern whatever.

The way we move forward, old boy, is by learning from each other. Not by insisting that we are superior.

I expect that this will be a difficult concept for you however.

Hang on....who on OzPol is now claiming they have been raped????

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Reply #71 - Dec 17^th, 2022 at 10:53am

Gnads wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 7:24am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 5:29pm:

I was busy yestiddee - anyone hear the latest on the gathering to protest Mt Warning closure? 14th, December ... might make those arseholes in Macquarie Street realise there are more 'stakeholders' than those they let through the door while locking all others out.... that kind of BS has got to stop NOW!!

HANDS OFF OUR NATIONAL PARKS!!!

https://i.imgflip.com/74dzzb.jpg

I heard that the local Council(I think) was looking to make some sort of compromise for hikers to continue climbing... .i.e. having an Aboriginal guide for every group or some such. Maintaining
the tourism aspect.

Local Aboriginal Group still sticking with no non Aboriginals to be climbing/walking it. Never mind the white Aboriginal who was making threats to violence & property(car) vandalism to any non Aboriginals who dare still go there.

And yet the catchcry is that it is Whitey who is creating the race war ....absolute nonsense and why isn't this jerk in the cells with a pair of football socks?

They may well get what they desire.... I can't teach stupid and selfish people who won't grow into the 21st Century. It may well be, with the endless vandalism of things White going on around that region, that someone will consider a Tarrant solution.... he was from that region .... if that happens - I TOLD YOU SO!!

National Parks are NATIONAL these days and there for a good reason - to preserve the things that are worth preserving for ALL ....- they belong to all Australians.... not some special interest group. You wouldn't hand it to a gas company to frack, would you, just so they can earn out of it.

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Reply #72 - Dec 17^th, 2022 at 11:00am

The big question here is - WTF do governments respective imagine they are doing with all this sh

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t going on and on endlessly? Could it really be that they never get out of their ivory towers and their fat seats in the cities and see what the realities are?

Why do they allow blatant criminality and terrorism to force their decisions?

Reset Needed to Drain The Swamps ... and start again.

No wonder these political jerks imported millions of Outlanders here who have absolutely no idea of The Australian Way - they'll all vote on this insanity without a single thought in their heads - well - apart from maybe having a swipe at Whitey themselves...

Once upon a time (in Australia) a bloke with an Australian accent would simply say:- "Sorry, boys - National Parks are for everybody... you can't claim any of them, so we'd all better sit down like mature adults and find some other solution!."

Now we've got the likes of Perrotet and Albanese and the Pale Assed Chick and Andrews (Big Ears) preaching to us all without a thought in their head, about what is and is not 'a fair go'.... fair go for who? 3% of the population who already have as much and as many rights and opportunities - and more- as anyone else?

Poor Fellow - My Country,

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Reply #73 - Dec 17^th, 2022 at 1:32pm

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 6:22am:

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so you need to identify which part is "communist party gibberish"

All of it. It is also meaningless.

Fail. "Meaningless" to you maybe; let's take it slowly for you:

We are discussing behaviour AND ideology, beginning with:

1. The self-preserving, unconscious, instinctive 'survival' mechanisms, located in the 'reptilian brain - 'basal ganglia' in humans:

"In MacLean's triune brain model, the basal ganglia are referred to as the reptilian or primal brain, as this structure is in control of our innate and automatic self-preserving behavior patterns, which ensure our survival and that of our species.

Note the observation: "our survival" meaning each one of us (ie the individual), compared with "our species" meaning the collective (homo sapiens).

Understood, so far?

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Reply #74 - Dec 17^th, 2022 at 1:34pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 1:32pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 6:22am:

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so you need to identify which part is "communist party gibberish"

All of it. It is also meaningless.

Fail. "Meaningless" to you maybe; let's take it slowly for you:

We are discussing behaviour AND ideology, beginning with:

1. The self-preserving, unconscious, instinctive 'survival' mechanisms, located in the 'reptilian brain - 'basal ganglia' in humans:

"In MacLean's triune brain model, the basal ganglia are referred to as the reptilian or primal brain, as this structure is in control of our innate and automatic self-preserving behavior patterns, which ensure our survival and that of our species.

Note the observation: "our survival" meaning each one of us (ie the individual), compared with "our species" meaning the collective (homo sapiens).

Understood, so far?

Ooh, I can't wait till you get to the meaningless communist party gibberish. Go on.

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