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Re: Wild Boar on the menu
Reply #30 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 4:03pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 12:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:07am:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:05am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:03am:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:00am:
You seem to get taken advantage of quite often Bobby. I cannot recall ever getting rotten meat from a butcher. Chicken once, from the supermarket deli, but I think I took to long to get it in the fridge.



When I had a cat I used her to test the meat from the butcher -
cats won't eat rotten meat.
She refused meat many times from the butcher.

Other times I could smell that it was off.
When does the butcher throw the old meat out?
How do they know if it's rotten?


I think they test it out on you Bobby.



Not me for the last 25 years - I learnt my lesson.   Grin


Bobby, if the butcher does not know for absolute certain that the meat is rotten, is it actually a lie if he tells you it is good to eat? After all, it could be true, right?



If he the butcher doesn't know how long he's had that meat
then of course it's a lie.
There is no labeling on butcher's meat.
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Reply #31 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 4:04pm
 

I have steered away from butchers after buying rotten meat many times.
In the supermarket they at least have the meat in
hermetically sealed plastic packages with a use by date.
At the butcher you never know how old their meat is and
how many flies have landed on it.

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Reply #32 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 6:57pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 4:03pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 12:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:07am:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:05am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:03am:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:00am:
You seem to get taken advantage of quite often Bobby. I cannot recall ever getting rotten meat from a butcher. Chicken once, from the supermarket deli, but I think I took to long to get it in the fridge.



When I had a cat I used her to test the meat from the butcher -
cats won't eat rotten meat.
She refused meat many times from the butcher.

Other times I could smell that it was off.
When does the butcher throw the old meat out?
How do they know if it's rotten?


I think they test it out on you Bobby.



Not me for the last 25 years - I learnt my lesson.   Grin


Bobby, if the butcher does not know for absolute certain that the meat is rotten, is it actually a lie if he tells you it is good to eat? After all, it could be true, right?



If he the butcher doesn't know how long he's had that meat
then of course it's a lie.
There is no labeling on butcher's meat.


What if there is a possibility that it is true?
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Re: Wild Boar on the menu
Reply #33 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:04pm
 
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What if there is a possibility that it is true?


I don't know -
what is your point of contention?
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Reply #34 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:06pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:04pm:
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What if there is a possibility that it is true?


I don't know -
what is your point of contention?


If there is a possibility it is true, then it is not a lie, right?
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Reply #35 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:10pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:04pm:
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What if there is a possibility that it is true?


I don't know -
what is your point of contention?


If there is a possibility it is true, then it is not a lie, right?



No - a lie is a lie unless maybe it's portrayed as an educated guess
in which case it could be true or false -
a bit like Schrodinger's cat.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat
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Reply #36 - Feb 27th, 2023 at 12:19pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 10:42pm:
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Putting wild boar on the menu could put a dent in feral pig population, game meat industry says


While it may be popular in overseas restaurants, you would be hard-pressed to find wild boar meat on many menus across Australia.

But Queensland game meat industry consultant Andrew Varasdi said it was time to change the eating habits of Australians to help address the country's feral pig problem.

"Internationally is where the main demand is coming from right now for Australian wild boar meat," Mr Varasdi said.

"There is also an opportunity for Australia to create a demand for wild boar meat, and that would create jobs."

According to a 2020 National Feral Pig Action Plan (NFPAP) report, the annual value of the feral pig industry peaked at $50 million in the mid-1980s, but commercial harvesting in Australia has faced significant business and market volatility in the decades since.

"When these restaurants do put wild boar ragu on the menu, it doesn't last a day due to popularity," Mr Varasdi said.


"If we can demonstrate to Australians that wild boar is a perfectly good meat, that it's suitable for human consumption, that it's clean and it doesn't have the issues or the stigma that is attached to it and that the food tastes amazing, then that is where the demand will come from.

"There are people who think that wild boar meat is full of parasites and worms, and it's something that is not true."

A major environmental threat
The actual number of feral pigs in Australia is unknown, but the 2020 National Feral Pig Management report said there could be as many as 23.5 million in the wild.

They are considered a major pest that poses a significant threat to Australia's $65-billion agricultural industry by destroying crops, spreading disease and preying on livestock.

Research from the University of Queensland in 2021 estimated feral pigs released about 4.9 million metric tonnes of carbon dioxide across the globe annually, the equivalent of 1.1 million cars


But people looking to source their own feral pig meat from the wild have been warned it's important the meat has been properly processed.

NFPAP management coordinator Heather Channon said people who ate feral pig meat that had not been properly inspected were at risk of food-borne infections.

"Meat from feral pigs should be sourced from carcasses processed in a licensed wild game meat processing plant and inspected by a trained meat safety inspector as being fit for human consumption," Dr Channon said.

'Same stringent checks' as roo meat

The Australian Standard for the Hygienic Production of Wild Game Meat for Human Consumption sets out minimum requirements for harvesting and processing feral pigs.

Allan Brady, a game meat processor from Roma in Queensland, said there was a public misconception that properly processed wild boar meat was riskier than domestic pork.

"We take so many precautions to make sure our wild boar is safe," he said.

"Wild boar meat has the same restrictions and stringent checks that kangaroo meat has that you see in the supermarkets."

Systems to ensure food safety
Safe Food Production Queensland compliance and verification director Rick Jackobson said there was an accreditation system for all wild game harvesters to ensure that meat was safe to eat.

"Safe Food Queensland routinely audits those harvesters to ensure that they are compliant with hygiene processing requirements," he said.

"There are a number of steps that wild boar meat goes through, including trained people at the wild game processing plants, and all wild game goes through a post-mortem inspection by qualified meat inspectors."

A 'low carbon' source of meat
Tara Medina recently launched a company that partners with landowners to ethically harvest wild game, including boar meat, for the food service market.

"Wild boar is one of the most overpopulated feral species in Australia," she said.

"Beyond the damage that they are doing to both agricultural land and native habitats, it's also a nutritious and low carbon way to eat meat."


Ms Medina said apart from removing a feral species from the wild, eating wild boar helped the environment in other ways.

"We hear a lot about the carbon footprint of a carnivore diet," she said.

"With wild game, the opposite is true. You are removing a damaging animal from that environment and, because of that, it has little-to-no carbon footprint."

Education is the key
Andrew Varasdi said more education was needed to encourage the public to give accredited wild boar meat a go.

"[Not] just consumers, but also government bodies, legislators and regulators and to anybody that has a view about the meat that is not correct," he said.

"If the demand for wild boar meat increased, there would be a new focus for harvesting those animals through regional Australia."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-30/feral-pigs-wild-boar-for-food/101712102


We are the worlds largest exporter of Goat meat which is another feral pest we should exploit the market for wild Boar meat.



Feral pigs have been sent to Germany for decades.... the market has it's ebbs & flows

there would be semi trailer chiller boxes in every 2nd town or village western areas years ago.
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Reply #37 - Feb 27th, 2023 at 12:21pm
 
Jasin wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:38am:
Anything Free Range (not just a foot inside a cage) that wanders the paddocks, fields and eats 'nature'.

Is better than anything 'Farmed' and grain-fed. The taste is the obvious change noticed to consumers. Farmed Tuna, Salmon, Pigs, Chickens, etc, etc - well, they're just for the mass production  for over-population in the world.



You do realise that in areas of intensive grain agriculture they can have massive feral pig populations?

Thus feral pigs can also be be grain fed.  Grin Grin
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Reply #38 - Feb 27th, 2023 at 12:23pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:16pm:
Jasin wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:38am:
Anything Free Range (not just a foot inside a cage) that wanders the paddocks, fields and eats 'nature'.

Is better than anything 'Farmed' and grain-fed. The taste is the obvious change noticed to consumers. Farmed Tuna, Salmon, Pigs, Chickens, etc, etc - well, they're just for the mass production  for over-population in the world.

True but keep in mind many wild animals cooked rare to medium can infect you with parasites et al.

On the other hand Tasmanian farmed salmon carries more health risks than swimming in sewage.




So do you eat Basa?

aka Vietnamese catfish ..... coz that's where they're grown .... in shyte ponds.

I'd eat tassie salmon before that.
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Reply #39 - Feb 27th, 2023 at 12:25pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:20am:
You can get good roo mince for about $11 per kg.



It shouldn't be that expensive.
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Reply #40 - Feb 27th, 2023 at 12:32pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 4:04pm:
I have steered away from butchers after buying rotten meat many times.
In the supermarket they at least have the meat in
hermetically sealed plastic packages with a use by date.
At the butcher you never know how old their meat is and
how many flies have landed on it.




You deserve what you get Booby ...... you don't know how long the process is for supermarkets to get the meat from the paddock to the hermetically sealed plastic container......

I've had off goumet sausages from Woolies.
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Reply #41 - Feb 27th, 2023 at 3:30pm
 
Damned if you do,
damned if you don't.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #42 - Feb 27th, 2023 at 8:52pm
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 27th, 2023 at 12:25pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:20am:
You can get good roo mince for about $11 per kg.



It shouldn't be that expensive.


I think it was $6 or $7 per kg when I first started getting it. But rump was dirt cheap at the time also. Now it seems to be more popular. You could not buy it at all for a long time while they had flooding in SA.
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Reply #43 - Feb 27th, 2023 at 10:22pm
 
Has anyone tasted wild boar?

How would you cook it? What’s it taste like?
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Reply #44 - Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:45am
 
Yes. It's much like Pork, but less fatty.
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