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Reply #602 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 2:22pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 1:27pm:

Ask the question why was he known to police?
There’s more to this story. Ask about what he did hence why he had to flee for his life?

Perzackery!! Clearly to just start shooting without notice meant he had something big to hide.... still waiting for the truth to come out... these people thought they were fighting the good fight for some reason of their own...

My money is on running guns to the Warriors of The Aboriginal Resistance etc. Australia may have dodged a bullet there, so to speak.... or maybe it was just cash for getting hold of guns for gangsters .... easy money until you get caught.

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Reply #603 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 3:00pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 12:06pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 12:02pm:

Gun Control Australia the rabid bedwetting hoplophobes who hate guns are questioning why QLD police haven't stated whether the guns used were legal or illegal.

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Officer took statement about Nathaniel Train's border crossing with weapons months before police shooting

Police took a statement about former school principal Nathaniel Train in connection with weapons offences and a COVID-19 border breach almost eight months before he was involved in shooting dead two constables and a neighbour.

This was despite information having been given to Queensland police months earlier about Train's possession of firearms and breaching of the Queensland border in the Goondiwindi region in December 2021.

During the incident he was suspected of illegally dumping the weapons in floodwaters before travelling north into Queensland with other weapons.

The ABC has confirmed that as part of enquiries, Goondiwindi police took a statement on April 29 that clearly identified Train as being involved in the incident.

The statement taken by a Goondiwindi general duties officer, and sighted by the ABC, noted that Train had identified himself by name and said he was the principal of Walgett State School.

It was given by a resident who had given Train a lift through floodwaters to nearby Talwood on December 17 last year.

The resident also revealed Train was travelling with weapons and had borrowed his phone to make a call.

Weapons suspected of being dumped by Train

Weapons suspected of being dumped by Train, that were found next to where he swamped the vehicle, were given to police some days after the border breach occurred and when the flood subsided.

An image of the dumped weapons seen by the ABC shows them to be two rifles and a shotgun. One of the rifles is camouflaged and has a telescopic sight.

A licence would have been necessary for legal possession of the firearms in Queensland or New South Wales.

Police 'unable' to comment
Police have not provided any detail about the border breach and illegal disposal of firearms.

Earlier this week a spokeswoman said it was inappropriate to comment while the matter is being investigated and out of respect for the sensitivities of the families involved.

The ABC contacted QPS on Tuesday about the Talwood resident's statement being given eight months before and what happened with their enquiries.

A QPS spokesperson said they had previously provided a statement and "were unable to make any comment any further at this stage due to the investigations underway".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-20/queensland-police-shooting-border-weapons...

The police failed to take any action on these firearms offences.

I see why they don't want to talk about it.

Exactly! Total silence where police failed. Enter distraction/deflection. Example : Let's talk shrines for 2 dead rookies.

It is a total failure in every respect.

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Reply #605 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 3:35pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 3:31pm:

...'and today at their funeral the deceased officers performed their last act of service'...or similar words.

Who the fuq writes this schit!!!!!!!

And they are getting posthumous awards for valour? FMD ~ what fuqqing valour? Going to a nothing address to check on a missing person is an act of valour? Whaaaaaat!

Come on Aussie,
someone could have been the worst prick in the town but
at their funeral they always a top bloke. Embarrassed

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Reply #606 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 3:41pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 3:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 3:31pm:

...'and today at their funeral the deceased officers performed their last act of service'...or similar words.

Who the fuq writes this schit!!!!!!!

And they are getting posthumous awards for valour? FMD ~ what fuqqing valour? Going to a nothing address to check on a missing person is an act of valour? Whaaaaaat!

Come on Aussie,
someone could have been the worst prick in the town but
at their funeral they always a top bloke. Embarrassed

How about addressing what I wrote?

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Reply #607 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 3:50pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 3:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 3:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 3:31pm:

...'and today at their funeral the deceased officers performed their last act of service'...or similar words.

Who the fuq writes this schit!!!!!!!

And they are getting posthumous awards for valour? FMD ~ what fuqqing valour? Going to a nothing address to check on a missing person is an act of valour? Whaaaaaat!

Come on Aussie,
someone could have been the worst prick in the town but
at their funeral they always a top bloke. Embarrassed

How about addressing what I wrote?

I did.

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Reply #608 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 3:51pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 3:31pm:

...'and today at their funeral the deceased officers performed their last act of service'...or similar words.

Who the fuq writes this schit!!!!!!!

And they are getting posthumous awards for valour? FMD ~ what fuqqing valour? Going to a nothing address to check on a missing person is an act of valour? Whaaaaaat!

Glad I missed seeing the sanitised REscripted mythologised summary of what really went down.

And what really went down was a botched up concocted "operation" by a bunch of rookies who were obeying the half baked orders of some cowboy - supervisor who's name is still unknown. 🥺

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Reply #609 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 6:57pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 3:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 3:31pm:

...'and today at their funeral the deceased officers performed their last act of service'...or similar words.

Who the fuq writes this schit!!!!!!!

And they are getting posthumous awards for valour? FMD ~ what fuqqing valour? Going to a nothing address to check on a missing person is an act of valour? Whaaaaaat!

Glad I missed seeing the sanitised REscripted mythologised summary of what really went down.

And what really went down was a botched up concocted "operation" by a bunch of rookies who were obeying the half baked orders of some cowboy - supervisor who's name is still unknown. 🥺

Yes that’s the part we don’t know… who ordered 4 cops to go locate a missing person.
And why is this kept from public? What’s being hidden from all this game?
Or was it not so much a missing person… but wanted by certain police.
Seems the missing person didn’t want to be known where his location was.
He’s not a missing child… so why so much emphasis to locate as a missing person?
And all this little set up warning alerts around their place was to warn them if anyone (cops) were approaching. I saw a vid of him saying the cops wanted him dead.
I’m thinking Aussie was correct from way back in this thread… the cops were never going to take them alive.

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Reply #610 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 7:05pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 3:31pm:

...'and today at their funeral the deceased officers performed their last act of service'...or similar words.

Who the fuq writes this schit!!!!!!!

And they are getting posthumous awards for valour? FMD ~ what fuqqing valour? Going to a nothing address to check on a missing person is an act of valour? Whaaaaaat!

It all smacks of guilt by whomever it was that gave these (4) rookies the duty to “locate a missing person” when that person was wanted and was on guard to avoid police.
Rookies knew nothing. Just canon fodder.
I reckon no-one dobbed in and rang the cops about “missing person/s”

I’m seeing it your way now Aussie.
Took a while to get there, but eventually the whole thing seemed set up.

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Reply #613 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 7:26pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 6:57pm:

the cops were never going to take them alive.

The cops were obliged to warn them first, tell them to come out unarmed, and apparently the cops did try to get them to give up

But the cops had seen what happened already and that warranted sending in the armored Swat vehicle that they used ... at least they assessed that right

It was a correct assessment, but it was too late for the rookies, they were working to no assessment at all, just roll up to the house and take pot luck

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Reply #614 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 7:58pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 7:26pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 6:57pm:

the cops were never going to take them alive.

The cops were obliged to warn them first, tell them to come out unarmed, and apparently the cops did try to get them to give up

But the cops had seen what happened already and that warranted sending in the armored Swat vehicle that they used ... at least they assessed that right

It was a correct assessment, but it was too late for the rookies, they were working to no assessment at all, just roll up to the house and take pot luck

So, ask yourself. Where were the heroics of the four? Where was the act of valour by anyone of them?

We are being snowed by emotive garbage. Don't fall for it.

I want to make clear...I am not seeking to minimse the loss to the family of the deceased coppers, but I refuse to buy into this bravery crap until the authorities explain to me exactly what they are relying upon to deify these people who died doing the most menial of all possible police work. Before they left to do the job, they were all said to be joking around and laughing about it. It was mundane, a nothing job...hence the total absence/lack of preparation for what transpired.

Far cough with the emotive, the public memorial, the medal awarding rubbish.

Bah humbug.

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