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Reply #495 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 4:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 2:58pm:

What does that say about the risk assessment the cops did before going in? Embarrassed

There probably was none ... The Sargent at Tara cop shop must be feeling a bit embarrassed right now - sending green rookies out there ... perhaps the Sarg should have gone with them, give them a bit of training on the job.

He must be feeling so bad today but he didn't know.

He/(she?) should get the sack then

That Katrina Carroll should be sacked too, and get a tough bloke to do that job ... also sack the Police minister for not providing more funding for research into Police tactics and risk assessment - for all jobs

Silly Katrina Carroll said it was a "normal job" [to go to that property] ... except it wasn't in the big city where she comfortably lives and works

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Reply #496 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 4:39pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 4:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:40pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 9:41am:

If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.

You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.

I'd say you are 100% correct there.

Yes.

Except he was investigating a fire, not gunshots.

“He went to help the neighbours ‘cause he thought there was a fire and heard bangs like maybe the house was on fire."

“He’s gone down to investigate and must’ve realised something was up because the smoke wasn’t coming from the house.”

Alan was gunned down, shot in the back from 150m, never knowing the extent of the horror that was unfolding.

According to that statement, it seems that the neighbour was investigating the sounds of gunfire, perhaps mistakenly thinking of fire creating popping sounds. Two of the four police in attendance fled the scene. The fire was started to draw the officer(s) out of the bushland. Two officers were already shot dead by that point.

Really? Amazing revelation. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Reply #497 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 4:45pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 4:39pm:

Really? Amazing revelation. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, what? It had already been stated in the news that the two officers had been shot dead. A curious neighbour would have likely come out to see what was causing the noise. And it would have taken a while for the fire to burn enough smoke that it caused noise and a smell to prompt people to think that a fire was burning.

greggery jumped to some guess that the neighbour was out trying to locate where the fire was coming from because of the noise.

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Reply #499 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 4:53pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 4:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 4:39pm:

Really? Amazing revelation. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, what? It had already been stated in the news that the two officers had been shot dead. A curious neighbour would have likely come out to see what was causing the noise. And it would have taken a while for the fire to burn enough smoke that it caused noise and a smell to prompt people to think that a fire was burning.

greggery jumped to some guess that the neighbour was out trying to locate where the fire was coming from because of the noise.

Read the fuqqin' Thread! All that has been done to death already.

Get it?

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Reply #500 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:17pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:49pm:

Apparently, we are not grown up enough to see/know the facts. Fuq this suppression.

Seems to me it might be all about tin plating copper arsehole.

Link.

I'm finding it hard to accept that the woman would take up a .22 ..... beggars belief that someone would do that in a 'shootout' ... TF are y6ou going to do with a .22? ..... but ... who knows.

I'm guessing she was shot in the 'hundreds of rounds' exchanged or perhaps even sniped... wrong place, wrong time.. wrong bloke(s)...

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Reply #501 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:21pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 4:52pm:

I wonder what it was that changed them from being radical leftwing teachers, to being violent sovereign citizens? They could've had all the social security handouts they'd ever want. They should have remained lefties

Happy clapping anti-vaxxers - that's Right-Wing Extremism 101

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Reply #502 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:40pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 9:41am:

If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.

You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.

I'd say you are 100% correct there.

Yes.

Except he was investigating a fire, not gunshots.

“He went to help the neighbours ‘cause he thought there was a fire and heard bangs like maybe the house was on fire."

“He’s gone down to investigate and must’ve realised something was up because the smoke wasn’t coming from the house.”

Alan was gunned down, shot in the back from 150m, never knowing the extent of the horror that was unfolding.

Poor bastard.
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Reply #503 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:24pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:40pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 9:41am:

If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.

You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.

I'd say you are 100% correct there.

Yes.

Except he was investigating a fire, not gunshots.

“He went to help the neighbours ‘cause he thought there was a fire and heard bangs like maybe the house was on fire."

“He’s gone down to investigate and must’ve realised something was up because the smoke wasn’t coming from the house.”

Alan was gunned down, shot in the back from 150m, never knowing the extent of the horror that was unfolding.

Poor bastard.
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Yep.

These happy clapping anti-vaxxers were real animals.

Thank f*#k they're dead.

The only problem is, you just know there's more of them out there.

(And by 'out there' I mean in Queensland)

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Reply #504 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:26pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 4:08pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 9:41am:

If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.

You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.

I'd say you are 100% correct there.

And what about the rest of the post?

Sorry UnSub...
Yes, agree with the lot.

I just highlighted that as it is part of the story.
Agree with the lot pal.
Like I've posted.
I lost good friends to this drug.
It's my pet hate tbh.
The people that make and distribute it could all die tomorrow and I wouldn't shed a tear.

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Reply #505 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:27pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 4:53pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 4:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 4:39pm:

Really? Amazing revelation. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, what? It had already been stated in the news that the two officers had been shot dead. A curious neighbour would have likely come out to see what was causing the noise. And it would have taken a while for the fire to burn enough smoke that it caused noise and a smell to prompt people to think that a fire was burning.

greggery jumped to some guess that the neighbour was out trying to locate where the fire was coming from because of the noise.

Read the fuqqin' Thread! All that has been done to death already.

Get it?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Whoa back, Pilgrim - doesn't mean any of the conjecture put out before was right or that he shouldn't express his views... it's not like we're going to ever see a definitive answer to all that happened. The best witnesses would be the two surviving cops.

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Reply #506 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:24pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:40pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 9:41am:

If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.

You can just look at the state of someone's teeth to know that it is highly likely that they are into drugs. Without accurately knowing all the details, I can only guess that the neighbour went to investigate the shooting. If you have ever heard gunfire in real life, it can be confusing as to what it is that is happening. I could imagine the neighbour went to investigate the shooting; was spotted; turned to run back to his house; and was shot in the back.

Neighbours usually don't have each other's telephone numbers. If you heard gunshots, you would not normally phone your neighbours to ask if they are okay. A normal reaction would be to look outside to find the source of the popping sounds.

I'd say you are 100% correct there.

Yes.

Except he was investigating a fire, not gunshots.

“He went to help the neighbours ‘cause he thought there was a fire and heard bangs like maybe the house was on fire."

“He’s gone down to investigate and must’ve realised something was up because the smoke wasn’t coming from the house.”

Alan was gunned down, shot in the back from 150m, never knowing the extent of the horror that was unfolding.

Poor bastard.
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Yep.

These happy clapping anti-vaxxers were real animals.

Thank f*#k they're dead.

The only problem is, you just know there's more of them out there.

(And by 'out there' I mean in Queensland)

Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.

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Reply #507 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:38pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:28pm:

Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.

Today we find out the Trains were 'sovereign citizen' ideologues.

Deluded 'individual natural rights' (which don't exist in nature)/ self-interested liberal 'freedom values' (which conveniently favour the most competitive among us) nutcases.

Obviously not restrained in any way by the contact with One Nation's Mark Lathan.

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Reply #508 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:40pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:28pm:

Well by your standards I'm and anti vaxxer in Queensland.
You believe I'm going to carry out something like this?
Be honest.

Today we find out the Trains were 'sovereign citizen' ideologues.

Deluded 'individual natural rights' (which don't exist in nature)/ self-interested 'freedom values' (which conveniently favour the most competitive among us) nutcases.

Obviously not restrained in any way by the contact with One Nation's Mark Lathan.

Is that a yes or a no? Grin

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Reply #509 - Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:40pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 5:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 4:53pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 4:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 4:39pm:

Really? Amazing revelation. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, what? It had already been stated in the news that the two officers had been shot dead. A curious neighbour would have likely come out to see what was causing the noise. And it would have taken a while for the fire to burn enough smoke that it caused noise and a smell to prompt people to think that a fire was burning.

greggery jumped to some guess that the neighbour was out trying to locate where the fire was coming from because of the noise.

Read the fuqqin' Thread! All that has been done to death already.

Get it?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Whoa back, Pilgrim - doesn't mean any of the conjecture put out before was right or that he shouldn't express his views... it's not like we're going to ever see a definitive answer to all that happened. The best witnesses would be the two surviving cops.

One who ran away into the bush TO SAFETY and one who drove away TO SAFETY. Yep......they'd be the best witnesses for sure.

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