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Reply #405 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:22pm
 
Here is a graph re last year's fatality figures.
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Reply #406 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:26pm
 
The picture I'm getting is that being a police officer isn't as dangerous as I thought it was. Look where they are....at the very bottom of that list.

That can't be right....can it?

If it is right then perhaps the current police workplace safety protocols which are in place could explain why the figures are lower than we think....or being made to think.

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Reply #407 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:41pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:18pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:07pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:59pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:49pm:
I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work.  Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?


Aussie your research skills are sh1thouse. That much I know.

I don't like being your research assistant. Even so...here is what you asked. It took me less than 5 seconds.

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/doc/key-work-health-and-safety-statistics-a...

Note : these figures are NOT 20 yrs old (like the stuff you find to get me to read) 😐



Good document - but what category in there allows for Police?

I can't see one that fits the bill.

It doesn't even cover the ADF as an occupation.

Public Administration & Safety???


I had already found that Link but because it made no specific reference to Coppers, I made my inquiry. 

Lisa Jones, no-one asked you be to be their research assistant.

It seems to me that people in many occupations other than Copper are less likely to return home from work than coppers but somehow we are being snowed with the concept that coppers have some sort of courage merely because they go to work.

Fuq off with the teary garbage, Albanese, Dutton and all you other wankers who are virtue signalling over this incident.  Schits me large.  People die, or are injured at work doing their job every day, and going to work as a copper seems to be far less dangerous, far less requiring courage, that for many other far more dangerous occupations.



And going to work as a male is more than double as dangerous then for females.

And the bitch is on about a so called gender pay gap?  Grin Grin
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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #408 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:52pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:41pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:18pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:07pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:59pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:49pm:
I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work.  Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?


Aussie your research skills are sh1thouse. That much I know.

I don't like being your research assistant. Even so...here is what you asked. It took me less than 5 seconds.

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/doc/key-work-health-and-safety-statistics-a...

Note : these figures are NOT 20 yrs old (like the stuff you find to get me to read) 😐



Good document - but what category in there allows for Police?

I can't see one that fits the bill.

It doesn't even cover the ADF as an occupation.

Public Administration & Safety???


I had already found that Link but because it made no specific reference to Coppers, I made my inquiry. 

Lisa Jones, no-one asked you be to be their research assistant.

It seems to me that people in many occupations other than Copper are less likely to return home from work than coppers but somehow we are being snowed with the concept that coppers have some sort of courage merely because they go to work.

Fuq off with the teary garbage, Albanese, Dutton and all you other wankers who are virtue signalling over this incident.  Schits me large.  People die, or are injured at work doing their job every day, and going to work as a copper seems to be far less dangerous, far less requiring courage, that for many other far more dangerous occupations.



And going to work as a male is more than double as dangerous then for females.

And the bitch is on about a so called gender pay gap?  Grin Grin


Obviously we girls are more careful 😎

Could you take a look at this?

https://policehealth.com.au/emergency-services-job-greatest-risk-leading-cause-d...

There's absolutely nothing else! There is some research (and related figures) which date back to 2009.

But I do know that suicide is another consideration we've not covered here. Yet.

It seems that the only way to calculate the number of officers who died whilst on duty in Australia is to manually add up each state's figure (which I think is appalling).

Note : The Australian Federal Police figures are readily available though.


OMG ! Look at our ADF suicide figures  😳
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Reply #409 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:53pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:26pm:
The picture I'm getting is that being a police officer isn't as dangerous as I thought it was. Look where they are....at the very bottom of that list.

That can't be right....can it?

If it is right then perhaps the current police workplace safety protocols which are in place could explain why the figures are lower than we think....or being made to think.



Police would come under "Law Enforcement", which obviously isn't in that list Lisa

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Reply #410 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 3:03pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:53pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:26pm:
The picture I'm getting is that being a police officer isn't as dangerous as I thought it was. Look where they are....at the very bottom of that list.

That can't be right....can it?

If it is right then perhaps the current police workplace safety protocols which are in place could explain why the figures are lower than we think....or being made to think.



Police would come under "Law Enforcement", which obviously isn't in that list Lisa



Ok. Well I've just located this document. It kinda verifies my suspicions ... well Aussie's too in that it's not AS dangerous as we think. Although .... the issue of suicide is still bothering me.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10345329.2020.1784502?journalCode=rc...

👆 Policing is considered one of the most dangerous and stressful occupations. The role and duties of officers mean that they are more likely to encounter not only accidents, but also assaults. Furthermore, the physical demands and occupational stresses of the job mean that officers are at risk of medical conditions that cause strain on the body such as heart attacks.

This paper examines the current nature of police officer fatalities in Australia. In turn, this paper aims to identify strategies to prevent police fatalities. To do this, the study examined all police officer deaths in Australia between 2002 and 2019 (n = 39). Results revealed three main typologies of police fatalities in Australia: accidents, assaults and health-related fatalities. Accidents accounted for the largest proportion of fatalities, followed by assaults and health fatalities.

Furthermore, the results showed a significant decrease in the number of police fatalities post 2006. These results are discussed in terms of changes to policing policies and practices that may have influenced this decline. Overall, these findings provided valuable insights into the current nature of police fatalities.

These findings have implications for policing authorities in implementing prevention strategies to reduce and prevent officer deaths.
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Reply #411 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 3:35pm
 
Everything so far points to a conclusion that being a copper is much safer than being in many other occupations.

(Lisa Jones...suicides in the ex-ADF is well known (yes also tragic) and there has been a recent if not current Royal Commission on the very issue.) 

I am referring to coppers.  The gushing teary rush to make/declare these coppers heroes and courageous and doing a dangerous job they might not return home from (while true) is emotive smoke/mirrors hyperbole, not reflected/substantiated in industry comparisons, and the dramatic sobbing wankers are taking full advantage of it.  Sure, the recent incident involved copper death....fair enough....but fuq off with the "courageous/hero" absolute horseshit.
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Reply #412 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 3:35pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:26pm:
The picture I'm getting is that being a police officer isn't as dangerous as I thought it was. Look where they are....at the very bottom of that list.

That can't be right....can it?

If it is right then perhaps the current police workplace safety protocols which are in place could explain why the figures are lower than we think....or being made to think.




It's a different work environment.
Most people are compliant with cops.

The danger arises quickly with coppers, and it's always different.
There is no time to fill out risk assessments. That's all done on the fly. That's the training they lack imo, but they're lucky in this country, they don't really need hard core defence training.... Yet.


Dangers on construction sites can be identified and tend to be reoccurring dangers.
If something changes, we sit down and review safe work methods and job safety analyses, we toolbox (talk in a group) about the work to be carried out. We use what they call a risk matrix. What that is is a series of numbers and letters on a graph. It is used for every step of the job to be carried out.
If you end up in the red section.... Rethink your procedures to work the risk down lower. It can be done 99% of the time.
When we're happy and in the green section of the matrix, we all sign on to say we agree to follow the steps and procedures as per the toolbox discussion.
If foelr some reason the task changes, we have time to stop and reassess the situation and again, work the risk to as low as possible.
This all takes time.

If you've got 5.56mm NATO rounds flying around you at random, time is life or death. You've got to act quickly while tryi g to keep as safe as possible.
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Reply #413 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:16pm
 
Teary speeches in parliament today about it but
no call for an independent Federal inquiry.   Undecided
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Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:16pm:
Teary speeches in parliament today about it but
no call for an independent Federal inquiry.   Undecided



They'd be Crocodile tears.
Those bastards don't cry.
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Reply #415 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 5:47pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 5:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:16pm:
Teary speeches in parliament today about it but
no call for an independent Federal inquiry.   Undecided



They'd be Crocodile tears.
Those bastards don't cry.



Peter Dutton was overcome with tears -
he was having great difficulty speaking.
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Reply #416 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:07pm
 
Cops and firies and ses workers are always heroes.
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Reply #417 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:07pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 5:47pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 5:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:16pm:
Teary speeches in parliament today about it but
no call for an independent Federal inquiry.   Undecided



They'd be Crocodile tears.
Those bastards don't cry.



Peter Dutton was overcome with tears -
he was having great difficulty speaking.



Yeah maybe him.
He was a serving officer and all.
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Reply #418 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:08pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:07pm:
Cops and firies and ses workers are always heroes.


Why?
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Reply #419 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:10pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:08pm:
Johnnie wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 6:07pm:
Cops and firies and ses workers are always heroes.


Why?


Because the media says so.
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