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Reply #390 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 10:51am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 10:46am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 9:27am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 8:12am:

https://amp.nine.com.au/article/16489775-d5cd-49f8-a205-7813bd2eb437

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This cut me up. Mr Train senior (their widower dad) has spoken out about the death of his 2 sons. His other 2 kids are still alive. The 2 sons he lost were difficult children growing up and were estranged from the family for over 20 years along with their children (ie his grandchildren).

He's now a shocked and heartbroken man who can't believe what's happened. Or even how it all happened. The first he knew of the matter was when police arrived at his door asking for his DNA to formally identify his 2 boys' bodies.

Mr Train senior is an old retired Baptist Minister. I don't think he'll last long after the enormity of such a tragic shock.

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The only one he said was difficult was Gareth who was on the Autism spectrum - Aspergers.

His estrangement from Nathaniel was due to his brothers takeover of his marriage ... i.e the Menage a Trois.

The church was the Fellowship of Independent Evangelical churches(look it up) ... it said nothing about Baptists that I've read.

I read Baptist (somewhere).

What you mentioned is Anglican Church linked. I personally know a few people who are now high up in that organisation as I went through Uni with them. All are very decent, humble and law abiding citizens who are also well educated and basically "normal'.

It's just these 2 Train boys who don't make sense. They left home and did their own thing totally estranging themselves from family and friends and ... the entire world really. How these boys EVER held positions of trust as teachers is what has me puzzled too.

Bizarre stuff.

Edit : Here's another thing which doesn't make sense : If their delusional beliefs were aimed at police officers then why did they kill their own neighbour in cold blood who wasn't a police officer?

FITH = F ucked I n T he H ead.

It happens to people.

With this lot their upbringing & education & life experiences didn't make any difference.

Neighbours reckon they were on the meth.

That would increase their paranoia

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Reply #392 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 12:17pm

Dear Lord!

This tragedy just gets more bizarre by the day 😳

Have a read of this 👇

https://7news.com.au/news/qld/network-of-surveillance-cameras-found-at-wieambill...

ESP this part re what it took to stop these 3 idiots :

As the incident unfolded, all three members of the Train family were considered active shooters and died with their weapons clutched in their hands, a police source told AAP.

Hundreds of rounds were exchanged before the trio were shot and killed.

One shooter was killed as he fired directly at the bulletproof windscreen of an armoured police vehicle as it approached the homestead.

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90019 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Police 'executed' in Qld Reply #393 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 12:24pm I recall the audio saying that P1 was down and then P2 was down and blood was seen.... P3 must have been taken to Austranamo Bay for interrogation.... the gulag at the ed of the line... few ever enter but none ever return.....
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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Re: Police 'executed' in Qld Reply #394 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:02pm Gnads wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 10:51am: Neighbours reckon they were on the meth. Sending young rookie police into a bush area of known drug use and with people known to police was a good idea wasn't it?
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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #395 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:41pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 10:51am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 10:46am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 9:27am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 8:12am:

https://amp.nine.com.au/article/16489775-d5cd-49f8-a205-7813bd2eb437

👆

This cut me up. Mr Train senior (their widower dad) has spoken out about the death of his 2 sons. His other 2 kids are still alive. The 2 sons he lost were difficult children growing up and were estranged from the family for over 20 years along with their children (ie his grandchildren).

He's now a shocked and heartbroken man who can't believe what's happened. Or even how it all happened. The first he knew of the matter was when police arrived at his door asking for his DNA to formally identify his 2 boys' bodies.

Mr Train senior is an old retired Baptist Minister. I don't think he'll last long after the enormity of such a tragic shock.

🥺

The only one he said was difficult was Gareth who was on the Autism spectrum - Aspergers.

His estrangement from Nathaniel was due to his brothers takeover of his marriage ... i.e the Menage a Trois.

The church was the Fellowship of Independent Evangelical churches(look it up) ... it said nothing about Baptists that I've read.

I read Baptist (somewhere).

What you mentioned is Anglican Church linked. I personally know a few people who are now high up in that organisation as I went through Uni with them. All are very decent, humble and law abiding citizens who are also well educated and basically "normal'.

It's just these 2 Train boys who don't make sense. They left home and did their own thing totally estranging themselves from family and friends and ... the entire world really. How these boys EVER held positions of trust as teachers is what has me puzzled too.

Bizarre stuff.

Edit : Here's another thing which doesn't make sense : If their delusional beliefs were aimed at police officers then why did they kill their own neighbour in cold blood who wasn't a police officer?

FITH = F ucked I n T he H ead.

It happens to people.

With this lot their upbringing & education & life experiences didn't make any difference.

Neighbours reckon they were on the meth.

That would increase their paranoia

The 'Baptist' reference was in Tuesday's The Australian.

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Reply #396 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:49pm

I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work. Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?

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Reply #398 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:59pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work. Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?

Aussie your research skills are sh1thouse. That much I know.

I don't like being your research assistant. Even so...here is what you asked. It took me less than 5 seconds.

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/doc/key-work-health-and-safety-statistics-a...

Note : these figures are NOT 20 yrs old (like the stuff you find to get me to read) 😐

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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #399 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:59pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 10:51am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 10:46am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 9:27am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 8:12am:

https://amp.nine.com.au/article/16489775-d5cd-49f8-a205-7813bd2eb437

👆

This cut me up. Mr Train senior (their widower dad) has spoken out about the death of his 2 sons. His other 2 kids are still alive. The 2 sons he lost were difficult children growing up and were estranged from the family for over 20 years along with their children (ie his grandchildren).

He's now a shocked and heartbroken man who can't believe what's happened. Or even how it all happened. The first he knew of the matter was when police arrived at his door asking for his DNA to formally identify his 2 boys' bodies.

Mr Train senior is an old retired Baptist Minister. I don't think he'll last long after the enormity of such a tragic shock.

🥺

The only one he said was difficult was Gareth who was on the Autism spectrum - Aspergers.

His estrangement from Nathaniel was due to his brothers takeover of his marriage ... i.e the Menage a Trois.

The church was the Fellowship of Independent Evangelical churches(look it up) ... it said nothing about Baptists that I've read.

I read Baptist (somewhere).

What you mentioned is Anglican Church linked. I personally know a few people who are now high up in that organisation as I went through Uni with them. All are very decent, humble and law abiding citizens who are also well educated and basically "normal'.

It's just these 2 Train boys who don't make sense. They left home and did their own thing totally estranging themselves from family and friends and ... the entire world really. How these boys EVER held positions of trust as teachers is what has me puzzled too.

Bizarre stuff.

Edit : Here's another thing which doesn't make sense : If their delusional beliefs were aimed at police officers then why did they kill their own neighbour in cold blood who wasn't a police officer?

FITH = F ucked I n T he H ead.

It happens to people.

With this lot their upbringing & education & life experiences didn't make any difference.

Neighbours reckon they were on the meth.

That would increase their paranoia

The 'Baptist' reference was in Tuesday's The Australian.

Yeah well even the Australian doesn't always get it right either ey?

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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #400 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 2:01pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work. Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?

Different sorts of miners too.

Open cut & underground

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Reply #401 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 2:06pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work. Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?

Aussie your research skills are sh1thouse. That much I know.

I don't like being your research assistant. Even so...here is what you asked. It took me less than 5 seconds.

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/doc/key-work-health-and-safety-statistics-a...

Note : these figures are NOT 20 yrs old (like the stuff you find to get me to read) 😐

In case you were stumped....look at the figures for Public Administration and Safety 👇

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Reply #402 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 2:07pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work. Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?

Aussie your research skills are sh1thouse. That much I know.

I don't like being your research assistant. Even so...here is what you asked. It took me less than 5 seconds.

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/doc/key-work-health-and-safety-statistics-a...

Note : these figures are NOT 20 yrs old (like the stuff you find to get me to read) 😐

Good document - but what category in there allows for Police?

I can't see one that fits the bill.

It doesn't even cover the ADF as an occupation.

Public Administration & Safety???

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Reply #403 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 2:12pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 2:07pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work. Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?

Aussie your research skills are sh1thouse. That much I know.

I don't like being your research assistant. Even so...here is what you asked. It took me less than 5 seconds.

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/doc/key-work-health-and-safety-statistics-a...

Note : these figures are NOT 20 yrs old (like the stuff you find to get me to read) 😐

Good document - but what category in there allows for Police?

I can't see one that fits the bill.

It doesn't even cover the ADF as an occupation.

Public Administration & Safety???

Yeah. That's what coppers are. They publicly administer safety.

As regards ADF - it's probably assumed that they're just going to die anyway because when you go to war it's all about killing or being killed.

Administration and Support Services ffs??? I'm stumped at the figures for people who stuff around with files and paperwork all day 😳

Edit : OMG the figures for admin and support services are higher than public admin and safety 😳😳😳😳

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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #404 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 2:18pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 2:07pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 1:49pm:

I had a quick look and no luck.

Is anyone able to get some figures on how many Coppers are injured on the job v a general industry standard.

I am trying to figure out who takes the greatest risk going to work in terms of known stats...a Copper who goes to work or a (for example) a construction worker who goes to work, a (for example) a miner who goes to work. Who has the best chance of returning home to Family after work ends?

Aussie your research skills are sh1thouse. That much I know.

I don't like being your research assistant. Even so...here is what you asked. It took me less than 5 seconds.

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/doc/key-work-health-and-safety-statistics-a...

Note : these figures are NOT 20 yrs old (like the stuff you find to get me to read) 😐

Good document - but what category in there allows for Police?

I can't see one that fits the bill.

It doesn't even cover the ADF as an occupation.

Public Administration & Safety???

I had already found that Link but because it made no specific reference to Coppers, I made my inquiry.

Lisa Jones, no-one asked you be to be their research assistant.

It seems to me that people in many occupations other than Copper are less likely to return home from work than coppers but somehow we are being snowed with the concept that coppers have some sort of courage merely because they go to work.

Fuq off with the teary garbage, Albanese, Dutton and all you other wankers who are virtue signalling over this incident. Schits me large. People die, or are injured at work doing their job every day, and going to work as a copper seems to be far less dangerous, far less requiring courage, that for many other far more dangerous occupations.

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