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Reply #345 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:26pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 4:33pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 10:25am:

"Nathaniel is described as being of Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander appearance, about 183cm tall, of thin build, and has a long grey beard. ..."

Now apologise to Boris...... you and Sad Kangaroo...

A mild-mannered school principal as well...

Are you saying that if I describe you as having the appearance of a dick, than you're a dick?

OK, I can live with that

Never described you that way that I remember ... but you are.

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Reply #346 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:29pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 3:37pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 2:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 2:32pm:

Yes, this bloke is ?????? He fled the scene in a cop car leaving behind two of his comrades lying on the ground and one (the surviving extremely green six week rookie) hiding in the bush which was, at some time, on fire. Yes, he was 'winged' at some time before he managed to drive off, safely.

Heroic?

Link.

And you'd of reacted how?

Dunno, but if I had done what this bloke did...run away in a car....I would not want myself called a 'hero.'

Run away on one leg ... like I said you've been shot - what you gonna do?

Besides show you have a beef with Police...

why is that?

Apparently, a shot 'grazed' his leg but obviously did not disable him even enough to get to a cop car .......and..........drive off leaving two of his mates on the ground and one in fear hiding in the bush.

I am not saying I would have done any different. I am saying none of that is heroic or deserving of any 'bravery' award.

I want to dial back all the hero pedestal bullshit...to the extent that I know the limited facts in the public domain.

Those killed wounded were in Government employment doing the job they signed up to do.

I am offended that Government is not doing what the public is now being encouraged to do.

I know this is an extreme example but it makes the point as best as I can make it simply.

If I am a copper and I get a splinter in my finger doing my job at work, should the public be emoted into giving me money?

These people and their families are the direct responsibility of Government, not the citizenry.

I might put my hand in my wallet when I hear what the Government is paying out.

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Reply #347 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:30pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 5:35pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 3:11pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 2:42pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 10:51am:

I reckon the brother and his misso look like aborigines.
That's why their pictures have not been released.
The only picture doing the rounds repeatedly is that of the whitest looking one.

Sounds about right.

Their old man got a start in all of this.
He's as white as snow.

Where's Mumzy' pic, and the others?

If my hunch is right then this does no favours for the media.

Mumzy was a whitie, pic just displayed on 9 News

Post a pic then.

There's been a blurry one posted here supposedly of Stacey Train .... but none of Gareth Train ...

still wondering why that is.

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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #348 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:33pm

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Yeah well I say BS to that.

They allow 2 of their own to be ambushed -(Gareth Train was known to Police) -

so they can then take revenge?

Cop killers need to be taken out with extreme prejudice ....

end of.

I still reckon you have a beef with Police & you're just not saying.

Reckon what you like. No skin off my nose.

However the Law is supreme and no Copper has the right to take that Law into his own hands.....like may have occurred here.

Note the word.....'may.'

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Reply #349 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:34pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:29pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 3:37pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 2:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 2:32pm:

Yes, this bloke is ?????? He fled the scene in a cop car leaving behind two of his comrades lying on the ground and one (the surviving extremely green six week rookie) hiding in the bush which was, at some time, on fire. Yes, he was 'winged' at some time before he managed to drive off, safely.

Heroic?

Link.

And you'd of reacted how?

Dunno, but if I had done what this bloke did...run away in a car....I would not want myself called a 'hero.'

Run away on one leg ... like I said you've been shot - what you gonna do?

Besides show you have a beef with Police...

why is that?

Apparently, a shot 'grazed' his leg but obviously did not disable him even enough to get to a cop car .......and..........drive off leaving two of his mates on the ground and one in fear hiding in the bush.

I am not saying I would have done any different. I am saying none of that is heroic or deserving of any 'bravery' award.

I want to dial back all the hero pedestal bullshit...to the extent that I know the limited facts in the public domain.

Those killed wounded were in Government employment doing the job they signed up to do.

I am offended that Government is not doing what the public is now being encouraged to do.

I know this is an extreme example but it makes the point as best as I can make it simply.

If I am a copper and I get a splinter in my finger doing my job at work, should the public be emoted into giving me money?

These people and their families are the direct responsibility of Government, not the citizenry.

I might put my hand in my wallet when I hear what the Government is paying out.

They'd already witnessed their comrades executed on the ground by these low lives.....

they were gone ... why should he or the other young female be next?

You have no idea except to put shyte on the pair of them.

Phukk you Aussie. Angry

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Reply #350 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:35pm

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Seeing there are so many unknowns ... that statement is as irrelevant as any other.

They needed dispatching for what they did & how they met the cavalry(as you put it)....

the shoot out lasted 6 hours.

They were shooting it out & they got shot & killed...

and rightly so.

You're talking shyte.

Right there....revenge.....not Law.

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Reply #351 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:36pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:33pm:

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Yeah well I say BS to that.

They allow 2 of their own to be ambushed -(Gareth Train was known to Police) -

so they can then take revenge?

Cop killers need to be taken out with extreme prejudice ....

end of.

I still reckon you have a beef with Police & you're just not saying.

Reckon what you like. No skin off my nose.

However the Law is supreme and no Copper has the right to take that Law into his own hands.....like may have occurred here.

Note the word.....'may.'

supposition ... overruled ... address the issue or I'll find you in contempt. Tongue

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Reply #352 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:37pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:35pm:

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Seeing there are so many unknowns ... that statement is as irrelevant as any other.

They needed dispatching for what they did & how they met the cavalry(as you put it)....

the shoot out lasted 6 hours.

They were shooting it out & they got shot & killed...

and rightly so.

You're talking shyte.

Right there....revenge.....not Law.

Phukk off

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Reply #353 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:49pm

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They'd already witnessed their comrades executed on the ground by these low lives.....

We do not know that. I think it is unlikely the fleeing cops were aware of anything other than that they were under heavy gun fire....... and they fled.....and their mates were not fleeing with them.

There is ZERO in the public domain suggesting that the fleeing cops knew their mates were dead, or executed. In fact, logic suggests that when the killer ambushers approached the two cops on the ground and allegedly there executed them, the two other coppers were long gone and saw nothing.

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they were gone ... why should he or the other young female be next?

Sure, no argument. But....do not tell me there is anything heroic or brave in their flight.

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You have no idea except to put shyte on the pair of them.

I know the basic facts in the public domain probably more than you do because I take the time to read, watch and listen.

I am not putting 'shyte' on them. I am putting claim of absolute emotive bullshit on the assertion that any one of the initial four on the scene were heroes or 'brave.'

Imagine you are back driving your coal train and the bloody thing is derailed because of sabotage. Are you in any way heroic or even brave because you were the driver?

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Reply #354 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:54pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 5:58pm:

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do you reckon they should have gone in with pepper spray and tasers Roll Eyes

Bit of harsh language..... reasonable sit down and chat..... it can all be settled over a cup of tea.....

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Reply #355 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 7:58pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:49pm:

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They'd already witnessed their comrades executed on the ground by these low lives.....

We do not know that. I think it is unlikely the fleeing cops were aware of anything other than that they were under heavy gun fire....... and they fled.....and their mates were not fleeing with them.

There is ZERO in the public domain suggesting that the fleeing cops knew their mates were dead, or executed. In fact, logic suggests that when the killer ambushers approached the two cops on the ground and allegedly there executed them, the two other coppers were long gone and saw nothing.

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they were gone ... why should he or the other young female be next?

Sure, no argument. But....do not tell me there is anything heroic or brave in their flight.

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You have no idea except to put shyte on the pair of them.

I know the basic facts in the public domain probably more than you do because I take the time to read, watch and listen.

I am not putting 'shyte' on them. I am putting claim of absolute emotive bullshit on the assertion that any one of the initial four on the scene were heroes or 'brave.'

Imagine you are back driving your coal train and the bloody thing is derailed because of sabotage. Are you in any way heroic or even brave because you were the driver?

Hang on a tic…. Mentioned earlier on in this thread… who was it that witnessed the assassins that went up to the 2 injured cops on ground and shot them again to be dead?

Who?
The only ones that would’ve seen that were the 2 cops that took off, so it was either or.

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Reply #356 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 11:40pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:35pm:

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Seeing there are so many unknowns ... that statement is as irrelevant as any other.

They needed dispatching for what they did & how they met the cavalry(as you put it)....

the shoot out lasted 6 hours.

They were shooting it out & they got shot & killed...

and rightly so.

You're talking shyte.

Right there....revenge.....not Law.

How are the police going to apprehend people who are shooting at them, are they not allowed to shoot back?

Since this incident ended at night i reckon a policeman with a thermal scope took them out. The TS will show heat coming out of gun when fired and blood splatter when they hit the offenders.Yes there are reports the female was also shooting at police.

Reports are they were ICE junkies people go batshit crazy on that stuff.

They had illegal firearms which they used to kill police and a neighbor they continued to shoot at police when backup arrived.

Shooting the 3 offenders was the best result for us it saves a shitload of legal fees and costs to throw them in jail for the rest of their lives.

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Reply #358 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 6:35am

The plot thickens....."Ménage à Trois"??

keeping it in the family .... it seems that Stacey Train mother of 2 had originally married Nathaniel Train in the 1990's ... but was now in a relationship with Gareth Train(still no photo of him).....

Pastor father Ron Train married them.

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SCHOOLTEACHER and mother-of-two Stacey Train once worked with disadvantaged children but met her end
this week as a cop-killer.
Stacey (left), along with brothers Gareth and Nathaniel Train, was shot dead by police on Monday after they
killed two young officers. Stacey married Nathaniel in the 1990s and the couple had two children but she was
believed to have entered a relationship with Gareth more recently.

I wonder where the 2 children left behind are or were during this maniacal event? Angry

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Reply #359 - Dec 15^th, 2022 at 6:57am

Gnads wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 6:35am:

The plot thickens....."Ménage à Trois"??

keeping it in the family .... it seems that Stacey Train mother of 2 had originally married Nathaniel Train in the 1990's ... but was now in a relationship with Gareth Train(still no photo of him).....

Pastor father Ron Train married them.

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SCHOOLTEACHER and mother-of-two Stacey Train once worked with disadvantaged children but met her end
this week as a cop-killer.
Stacey (left), along with brothers Gareth and Nathaniel Train, was shot dead by police on Monday after they
killed two young officers. Stacey married Nathaniel in the 1990s and the couple had two children but she was
believed to have entered a relationship with Gareth more recently.

I wonder where the 2 children left behind are or were during this maniacal event? Angry

They are in their early 20s, so hopefully nowhere near the joint.
The ice use is only recently, not a long term thing according to locals in the area.

Apparently the house had tunnels, fortified entries, completely off grid which the two brothers worked hard in achieving, caches of ammo and more weapons, stratically placed objects in the yard to act like barriers etc.
Preppers big time.

Oh, and she lost her principle job due to refusing the syrup.

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