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Reply #270 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:57am

Sophia wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:22am:

The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.

The teacher was a female.

The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.

The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.

And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….

Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021. She is the deceased female copper.

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Reply #271 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:59am

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:54am:

The thing I found a bit strange was why were 4 cops sent to chase up a missing persons report.

I would have thought one would have been enough!

Read above why I think the young rookies were sent… it was to be an innocent achievable locating of missing person whose health was a concern.
A extra brownie point in their police status of saying how one missing person located and resolved.

Why 4 of them?

I ask that too about 4 cops that pulled over one speedster on Melbourne Eastlink when a truck ran into all 4 officers and killed them.
Yes… why 4 ?

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Reply #272 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 9:01am

Sophia wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:54am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:22am:

The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.

The teacher was a female.

The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.

The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.

Yeah rodgy.
Just a teacher with an extra stripe.
The headmaster does not look like a typical psycho meth head.

He doesn’t look like a meth head …. In that picture!
It’s an earlier photo whilst he was still okay and actively working before a heart attack?

How did he look recently? Anyone have a picture of him in most recent times?

Yeah, that would help.

Why no pictures of the other two as well?

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Reply #273 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 9:01am

Aussie wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:22am:

The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.

The teacher was a female.

The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.

The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.

And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….

Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021. She is the deceased female copper.

Well who was it then? For 6 weeks? This was on tv last night with all their photos.
The young deceased man was so gorgeous holding puppies… with a sad farewell message from his mum.
Geez my heart is breaking.

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Reply #274 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 9:08am

Sophia wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:50am:

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Years ago, we had public awareness advertisements talking about the dangers of ice addiction. Even educated people can have a severe change in personality whilst on the drug. I could imagine that a "missing person" might well have been on the drug for some time and was caught up in the habit with his brother.

As much as I want to refrain from talking about the deceased neighbour, I could possibly deem him a drug user himself. Perhaps he condoned the drug usage of the suspects. And that invariably lead to him getting killed by the suspects.

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Reply #275 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 9:41am

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 9:08am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:50am:

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Years ago, we had public awareness advertisements talking about the dangers of ice addiction. Even educated people can have a severe change in personality whilst on the drug. I could imagine that a "missing person" might well have been on the drug for some time and was caught up in the habit with his brother.

As much as I want to refrain from talking about the deceased neighbour, I could possibly deem him a drug user himself. Perhaps he condoned the drug usage of the suspects. And that invariably lead to him getting killed by the suspects.

If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.

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Reply #276 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 10:09am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:18am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:12am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 7:57am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 7:55am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 7:40am:

Who the hell is selling guns to psycho groups?

Dunno.
Plenty of criminal enterprises out there.
Plenty of corruption from gov, right through to the wharfs.
Money talks.

My point was more about the laws.
With the current laws there should be no semi auto or NATO/Russian type weapons available in Australia, yet there are.

We've yet to find out exactly what guns they had.

Exactly.
There's a lot of inconsistencies in this story.
If they could keep it quiet, my guess is they would have, hence the little dribbles of info that just do not add up.

The weapons were either illigal semi auto or NATO/Russian type weapons that would scare the crap out of Australians if it was published consistantly and possibly lower confidence in policing even further, or they were just your run of the mill bolt actions.

My guess is the later.
Whitnesses claimed "semi auto" sounding, but it could have been several single shots with magazines.
You can pull a bolt back pretty quickly, and if there are three weapons discharging all at once, emptying the mags, then it would sound like semi auto fire.
Also, if the stolen glocks were discharged then that would be semi auto fire.
There's 17 rounds in one clip. I don't believe the cops would be on the 10 round limit magazine's like the general pop.

This is too big for the Queensland cops to handle.
We need a proper Federal investigation.

Gawd you talk some shyte.

Is that why the NSW Police asked them to make the missing persons enquiry?

I think you should go & see your proctologist

I'm sure his investigation will confirm that you're full of shyte.

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Reply #277 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 10:11am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:22am:

The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.

The teacher was a female.

One brother & his sister in law were teachers ...

read your own links you idiot.

The only one not mentioned as to occupation was the husband of the female, Gareth Train - the known conspiracy theorist.

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Reply #278 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 10:12am

Gnads wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:04am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 7:54am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 7:46am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 7:40am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:19am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 10:30pm:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 12^th, 2022 at 8:29pm:

Mad or desperate, these men are unlikely to be taken into custody.

I don't think it was their decision.

How do you come up with that?

Of course it was their decision.

You don't shoot down coppers, execute them on the ground, take their pistols, try & hunt down, flush out to kill 2 more coppers & not know that special forces are going to turn up and respond with armed force if you're not going to surrender give up.

You, like them are another person with a distrust of Police. Roll Eyes

Hang on! Do you trust the police? I certainly don't trust them. In fact I don't trust anybody these days.

Regarding the police ....the other day our beautiful quiet neighbourhood was traumatised and infected by their presence. Why? They tried to get involved in a situation which included my neighbour and her rebellious daughter! As soon as we saw the police car come down the street I immediately told my older kids to hold the fort while I went down the street to support my neighbour.

Once there I saw 2 tall police officers standing over and threatening this short thin woman who was shaking like a leaf in front of them whilst in her front garden watering her plants. Armed with my IPhone I marched right up to them and asked them for their full names and positions. And their ages. These bozos were merely 24 and 25 years old rookies. I demanded the name of their immediate supervisor on duty and proceeded to call that person whilst standing with my neighbour in front of them.

By the time I got off the phone to their (very nice Aussie born Italian) sergeant who was my age ...these idiots realised they were in deep shyte.

Holding the hand of my frightened neighbour I told these rookies a few hard truths about families and supportive neighbours. And how our children sometimes needed time to rethink THEIR actions before apologising for being so stupid and nasty.

As they quietly left they even asked if I wished to submit a formal complaint about them. I looked at my neighbour and them and said : I think we've had enough needless drama. How about we all just leave it at that.

What these bozos didn't know was this (and I told their sergeant this too) : it was the rebellious daughter who was abusive not her parents! These officers were acting on the say so of the daughter (and her bloody manipulative boyfriend). If only they had bothered to look for some evidence they would have seen the exchange of texts which clearly proved this. And of course I availed myself of the opportunity to inform their sergeant that it was clear to me the officers under his charge could do with more training before being sent out on the field.

So no I don't trust the police. They're bungling buffoons at the best of times. And I arm myself with an IPhone so I can record and take screenshots of THEIR poor behaviour.

There are bad apples in every barrel .... but on the whole yes I give them the benefit of the doubt..

before any strangers .... or people here Grin

Look to be fair...I've got a few cousins who married police officers. Their weddings were interesting. Everyone there was either a police officer or a detective lol. Or married to one.

They have a tough gig. They see a lot of terrible sh1t.

My main pain point is this (and you may have picked up on it by now): it's the level of training and preparedness for being sent out on the field that's wanting.

More experienced officers need to accompany these rookies.

It's not happening here in NSW. And it's clearly not happening in QLD 🥺

That didn't help Senior Constable Brett Forte & his partner(who escaped)Senior Constable Catherine Neilsen in the Lockyer Valley when they were ambushed in 2017.

Both experienced officers.

You don't become experienced unless you do the jobs required.

Fair comment.

Even so, I'm still of the opinion that police induction and training programs may need to be reviewed so that more experienced and better trained officers were involved in field operations. Police rookies need to be partnered/buddied up with older more experienced staff if they're going to learn the gig properly whilst on the job.

With said review I'd be hoping to see a review of PPE policies and procedures. Police should be required to wear protective gear whilst out of the office and that includes when going out to grab their lunch order too.

God I feel for the parents of those 2 police officers (Matthew 🌹 and Rachel 🌹) who lost their lives. These officers were around my (older) kids age. I've not stopped thinking about them or their families to be brutally honest. I'm wondering if these young beautiful Australians would still be alive if they had been wearing these:

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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #279 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 10:16am

Aussie wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:49am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:18am:

This is too big for the Queensland cops to handle.
We need a proper Federal investigation.

You have a real antagonism for the Qld police, have you not?

You don't need antagonism to make a logical comment. Why should Qld Coppers investigate Qld coppers? I agree with Bobby. This is far too serious and should be investigated by some authority having no kinship interest with Coppers.

Why do the QLD coppers need investigating? ...

Booby hasn't been asking logical questions - just wild assumptions & bs finger pointing.

You wouldn't have a beef with QLD coppers would you? Grin

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Reply #280 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 10:21am

Aussie wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:26am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:22am:

The pictures I've seen of the teacher do not indicate he is a meth user.
You can tell.
When they're just starting out, the psychosis isn't really concerning yet.
The more they use, their body deteriorates and the psychosis becomes more prevelent in their actions.
This is just my opinion but I've grown up around hard drugs and that image of the teacher is not one that would indicate he is a heavy meth user.

The teacher was a female.

The bloke with the beard was as well wasn't he?
Sorry, can't remember his name.

The guy with beard was a former headmaster of a school.
He left after a heart attack.

And then was supposed to go missing somehow so it was reported to police as there were concerns about his health.
If he did get in touch with family… perhaps from an undisclosed location so the family may have had contact from him but maybe never actually saw him.
Hence why he may have stayed on missing person list.

I was thinking this morning …. since he was an ex principal…. and on missing person list….
There was no inkling of any reason to indicate danger.
So from a nurturing mummy viewpoint… I could see how the superiors sent the young rookies to do something achievable for their status of locating a missing person.
The young deceased female officer had only been in the force for 6 weeks.
How nice it would have been to say early in her career she and her partner located a missing person.

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Then to have such an obsession with Port Arthur massacre hence the gun control thereafter….and these 3 with so many guns as an indication “you aren’t controlling us about guns” ….

Ya see, this is how the bullshit gets going.

Rachel McCrow joined the Police Force in June 2021. She is the deceased female copper.

The other female Officer there Keely Brough had been in the force about 6 weeks.

They were all relative rookies.

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Reply #281 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 10:22am

Gnads wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 10:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:18am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:12am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 7:57am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 7:55am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 7:40am:

Who the hell is selling guns to psycho groups?

Dunno.
Plenty of criminal enterprises out there.
Plenty of corruption from gov, right through to the wharfs.
Money talks.

My point was more about the laws.
With the current laws there should be no semi auto or NATO/Russian type weapons available in Australia, yet there are.

We've yet to find out exactly what guns they had.

Exactly.
There's a lot of inconsistencies in this story.
If they could keep it quiet, my guess is they would have, hence the little dribbles of info that just do not add up.

The weapons were either illigal semi auto or NATO/Russian type weapons that would scare the crap out of Australians if it was published consistantly and possibly lower confidence in policing even further, or they were just your run of the mill bolt actions.

My guess is the later.
Whitnesses claimed "semi auto" sounding, but it could have been several single shots with magazines.
You can pull a bolt back pretty quickly, and if there are three weapons discharging all at once, emptying the mags, then it would sound like semi auto fire.
Also, if the stolen glocks were discharged then that would be semi auto fire.
There's 17 rounds in one clip. I don't believe the cops would be on the 10 round limit magazine's like the general pop.

This is too big for the Queensland cops to handle.
We need a proper Federal investigation.

Gawd you talk some shyte.

Is that why the NSW Police asked them to make the missing persons enquiry?

I think you should go & see your proctologist

I'm sure his investigation will confirm that you're full of shyte.

Yes I can almost visualise the presser right now. The QLD Police Commissioner standing surrounded by the incessant clicking of media cameras... issuing a sanitized media appropriate summary of the investigation concluding with this remark :

"Given the foregoing investigation results I can categorically confirm that Bobby from the OzPolic online forum is full of shyte."

Roll Eyes

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Reply #282 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 10:22am

Sophia wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 9:41am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 9:08am:

Sophia wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:50am:

I still can’t understand how 3 reasonably educated people that were actively in community become the way they did.
Perhaps that heart attack did something to stop blood flow to the reasoning or empathic part of brain?

Years ago, we had public awareness advertisements talking about the dangers of ice addiction. Even educated people can have a severe change in personality whilst on the drug. I could imagine that a "missing person" might well have been on the drug for some time and was caught up in the habit with his brother.

As much as I want to refrain from talking about the deceased neighbour, I could possibly deem him a drug user himself. Perhaps he condoned the drug usage of the suspects. And that invariably lead to him getting killed by the suspects.

If the neighbour went there to investigate because he heard gunshots… why would anyone do that? If he was known to his neighbours he would phone them to ask “what’s happening? Everything okay?” Then again… maybe he did phone and no answer hence he went to see if they were okay… that is if he knew them.
If he didn’t know them… who in their right mind would go to a strangers property if you hear gunshots?

But then again… if someone is into drugs… it does drop their inhibitions somewhat… so venturing forth without much thought except for curiosity.

Gun shots & smoke from the fires they lit to flush out the other coppers.

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Reply #283 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 10:28am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 10:12am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 8:04am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 7:54am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 7:46am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 7:40am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 6:19am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 10:30pm:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 12^th, 2022 at 8:29pm:

Mad or desperate, these men are unlikely to be taken into custody.

I don't think it was their decision.

How do you come up with that?

Of course it was their decision.

You don't shoot down coppers, execute them on the ground, take their pistols, try & hunt down, flush out to kill 2 more coppers & not know that special forces are going to turn up and respond with armed force if you're not going to surrender give up.

You, like them are another person with a distrust of Police. Roll Eyes

Hang on! Do you trust the police? I certainly don't trust them. In fact I don't trust anybody these days.

Regarding the police ....the other day our beautiful quiet neighbourhood was traumatised and infected by their presence. Why? They tried to get involved in a situation which included my neighbour and her rebellious daughter! As soon as we saw the police car come down the street I immediately told my older kids to hold the fort while I went down the street to support my neighbour.

Once there I saw 2 tall police officers standing over and threatening this short thin woman who was shaking like a leaf in front of them whilst in her front garden watering her plants. Armed with my IPhone I marched right up to them and asked them for their full names and positions. And their ages. These bozos were merely 24 and 25 years old rookies. I demanded the name of their immediate supervisor on duty and proceeded to call that person whilst standing with my neighbour in front of them.

By the time I got off the phone to their (very nice Aussie born Italian) sergeant who was my age ...these idiots realised they were in deep shyte.

Holding the hand of my frightened neighbour I told these rookies a few hard truths about families and supportive neighbours. And how our children sometimes needed time to rethink THEIR actions before apologising for being so stupid and nasty.

As they quietly left they even asked if I wished to submit a formal complaint about them. I looked at my neighbour and them and said : I think we've had enough needless drama. How about we all just leave it at that.

What these bozos didn't know was this (and I told their sergeant this too) : it was the rebellious daughter who was abusive not her parents! These officers were acting on the say so of the daughter (and her bloody manipulative boyfriend). If only they had bothered to look for some evidence they would have seen the exchange of texts which clearly proved this. And of course I availed myself of the opportunity to inform their sergeant that it was clear to me the officers under his charge could do with more training before being sent out on the field.

So no I don't trust the police. They're bungling buffoons at the best of times. And I arm myself with an IPhone so I can record and take screenshots of THEIR poor behaviour.

There are bad apples in every barrel .... but on the whole yes I give them the benefit of the doubt..

before any strangers .... or people here Grin

Look to be fair...I've got a few cousins who married police officers. Their weddings were interesting. Everyone there was either a police officer or a detective lol. Or married to one.

They have a tough gig. They see a lot of terrible sh1t.

My main pain point is this (and you may have picked up on it by now): it's the level of training and preparedness for being sent out on the field that's wanting.

More experienced officers need to accompany these rookies.

It's not happening here in NSW. And it's clearly not happening in QLD 🥺

That didn't help Senior Constable Brett Forte & his partner(who escaped)Senior Constable Catherine Neilsen in the Lockyer Valley when they were ambushed in 2017.

Both experienced officers.

You don't become experienced unless you do the jobs required.

Fair comment.

Even so, I'm still of the opinion that police induction and training programs may need to be reviewed so that more experienced and better trained officers were involved in field operations. Police rookies need to be partnered/buddied up with older more experienced staff if they're going to learn the gig properly whilst on the job.

With said review I'd be hoping to see a review of PPE policies and procedures. Police should be required to wear protective gear whilst out of the office and that includes when going out to grab their lunch order too.

God I feel for the parents of those 2 police officers (Matthew 🌹 and Rachel 🌹) who lost their lives. These officers were around my (older) kids age. I've not stopped thinking about them or their families to be brutally honest. I'm wondering if these young beautiful Australians would still be alive if they had been wearing these:

Refer link 👇

https://www.hardshell.ae/wpcproduct/hi-viz-jacket/

Have you seen the gear a copper has to carry now? My SIL is a copper.

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