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Reply #180 - Dec 13^th, 2022 at 5:52pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 5:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 4:11pm:

why 4 cops?

There needs to be an independent inquiry into the whole tragedy.
Nothing is making any sense.

2-3 of them were inexperienced.... probably getting their bones from a simple check under supervision from a more senior. Obviously, only armed with pistols, they were not prepared for any shootout.

Why were the offenders ready, armed and wearing militia style clothing? That's your question(s).

I would guess that 4 cops went there because they suspected there could be trouble.

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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #181 - Dec 13^th, 2022 at 5:58pm

Anyway - apparently the bull goose loonie was a conspiracy nutter -

. Port Arthur was a conspiracy
. Princess Di was a blood sacrifice
. 9/11 was a blood sacrifice
. Qld special ops cops were a hit squad
. Rail lines ended at 're-education camps'

and so forth....

Question is - why did the other two go along with this to the extent of taking up arms and killing police attending the house?

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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #182 - Dec 13^th, 2022 at 5:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 5:52pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 5:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 4:11pm:

why 4 cops?

There needs to be an independent inquiry into the whole tragedy.
Nothing is making any sense.

2-3 of them were inexperienced.... probably getting their bones from a simple check under supervision from a more senior. Obviously, only armed with pistols, they were not prepared for any shootout.

Why were the offenders ready, armed and wearing militia style clothing? That's your question(s).

I would guess that 4 cops went there because they suspected there could be trouble.

Could be something more 'back home' in Dubbo...

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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #183 - Dec 13^th, 2022 at 6:01pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 4:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:53pm:

Gawd...it is NOT remote and the terrain was flat as a pan cake!

They were looking for a missing person, an innocuous thing, but.....but.....but....there is a question as to why, given such an apparently innocuous thing...why FOUR coppers (likely TWO cop cars) needed to go there for such a banal routine thing. They may have expected some growls, no cups of tea and scones, but obviously not of the kind they were met with.

That’s what I was wondering too… why 4 cops?
Then lucky there was… as 2 would’ve been dead and cops wouldn’t have known for ages…
At least one cop with bullet in leg was able to get to car to immediately alert authorities code… whatever
And to have an extraction team come save the female cop hiding in bush.

It’s a dark sad day the way all this took place.
Sad for those 2 young officers losing their lives.
I read the young female only just joined the force?
We have a cop friend that’s now a court prosecutor… he used to be our neighbour.
He saw how athletic and fit our daughter was and would say she should join the police force.
We did start the process… then I thought… it’s such a negative job.. always facing uncertainty or drop kicks etc.

yeah it would be a tough gig.

you become like the people you spend most of your time with , as a general rule.

people absorb the surrounding emotional state like a sponge.

when you are surrounded by haters and low lifes and liars and thieves and violent thugs, that has to change your personality, unless you are some sort of super human.

most cops i know only hang out with other cops.

i find a lot of them become bitter and resentful and depressed, often turning to alcohol.

if i had a friend in the force (and my daughter was going to apply) i would advice they study stoicism and eastern philosophy so they can turn the choas of the job into the fuel they use to improve rather then resist it and become consumed by it.

meditation, lots of martial arts, lots of mind training, lots of mentoring.

i would say 95 % of people are not cut out to be cops.

and those who think they are are most likely DEFINITELY not cut out to be cops

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Reply #184 - Dec 13^th, 2022 at 6:12pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 6:01pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 4:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:53pm:

Gawd...it is NOT remote and the terrain was flat as a pan cake!

They were looking for a missing person, an innocuous thing, but.....but.....but....there is a question as to why, given such an apparently innocuous thing...why FOUR coppers (likely TWO cop cars) needed to go there for such a banal routine thing. They may have expected some growls, no cups of tea and scones, but obviously not of the kind they were met with.

That’s what I was wondering too… why 4 cops?
Then lucky there was… as 2 would’ve been dead and cops wouldn’t have known for ages…
At least one cop with bullet in leg was able to get to car to immediately alert authorities code… whatever
And to have an extraction team come save the female cop hiding in bush.

It’s a dark sad day the way all this took place.
Sad for those 2 young officers losing their lives.
I read the young female only just joined the force?
We have a cop friend that’s now a court prosecutor… he used to be our neighbour.
He saw how athletic and fit our daughter was and would say she should join the police force.
We did start the process… then I thought… it’s such a negative job.. always facing uncertainty or drop kicks etc.

yeah it would be a tough gig.

you become like the people you spend most of your time with , as a general rule.

people absorb the surrounding emotional state like a sponge.

when you are surrounded by haters and low lifes and liars and thieves and violent thugs, that has to change your personality, unless you are some sort of super human.

most cops i know only hang out with other cops.

i find a lot of them become bitter and resentful and depressed, often turning to alcohol.

if i had a friend in the force (and my daughter was going to apply) i would advice they study stoicism and eastern philosophy so they can turn the choas of the job into the fuel they use to improve rather then resist it and become consumed by it.

meditation, lots of martial arts, lots of mind training, lots of mentoring.

i would say 95 % of people are not cut out to be cops.

and those who think they are are most likely DEFINITELY not cut out to be cops

Indeed. Social workers with guns. And the crims they are policing are the 'victims' of the society that they are supposed to be protecting.

Navigate that as a 20-something idealist, community-minded young person.

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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #185 - Dec 13^th, 2022 at 6:29pm

i would think the stress a soldier faces would be extreme but probably short lived.

most guys in the australian military may never have even been in an environment where they were surrounded by haters.

cops live in that soup 40 hours a week for decades. constantly surrounded and dealing with haters

i seriously cannot understand how they do it.

like the military, maybe we should automate a bit.

send a drone out to do the check on this place ,

my missus tells me they are about to start sending pathology samples from our country hospital to the lab via drone

cant see why drones cant do more police work

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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #186 - Dec 13^th, 2022 at 6:29pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 5:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 5:52pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 5:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 4:11pm:

why 4 cops?

There needs to be an independent inquiry into the whole tragedy.
Nothing is making any sense.

2-3 of them were inexperienced.... probably getting their bones from a simple check under supervision from a more senior. Obviously, only armed with pistols, they were not prepared for any shootout.

Why were the offenders ready, armed and wearing militia style clothing? That's your question(s).

I would guess that 4 cops went there because they suspected there could be trouble.

Could be something more 'back home' in Dubbo...

What does that mean?

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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #187 - Dec 13^th, 2022 at 6:40pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:07pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 2:14pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 2:11pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 2:03pm:

One of the brothers was a retired school principal from Dubbo?

"Indigenous" ancestry? Doesn't look it.

Thought the Port Arthur Massacre was a government hoax?

Was building a kind of "ark" style property to be a "survivalist"?

One weird family. Cheesy

Good riddance to them.

Very sad for those two young Police officers and the other victim of the murderous attack. Sad

He wasn't retired - he was a former school principle at Yorkeys Knob near Cairns & also at Walgett.

Walgett has a large Aboriginal community.

Not looking as if he has Aboriginal ancestry means nothing today.

He quit the education department a year or so ago?

Quit/retired? Or did he just walk out and went off grid… to be deemed as a reported missing person with others being concerned for his mental welfare?

Yeah he quit/ resigned..... that's not retiring....

which means permanently ceasing work.

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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #188 - Dec 13^th, 2022 at 6:44pm

mothra wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 7:52am:

freediver wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 7:40am:

mothra wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Jasin wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 6:47am:

Moslem, Aborigine, Trump, Russian, ????

What does it matter?

What is with the obsession on this forum to hyper-fixate on demographics?

People do bad things. All the time. For a whole bunch of reasons. Some get media attention.

Ever get the feeling one of your nostrils is flaring out? A kind of tugging feeling?

You don't think we should find out why these things happen? We should just pass it off as some unfathomable mystery?

Oh this will be good.

Tell me Fleadriver, how does one's demographic provide us with their intent?

Is Donald Trump really a demographic?

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Reply #189 - Dec 13^th, 2022 at 6:51pm

Nearly 100 per cent of students at Walgett Community College, the senior school to Walgett Community College Primary School, are Indigenous and the school has well documented problems with student violence.

Ms Mitchell said Mr Train had provided “anecdotal information” about surveys being completed with one-on-one assistance from support teachers at the primary school.

“Some students, including those with either lower literacy levels or who present with English as an Additional Language or Dialect (EALD), may need further explanations to better understand some Tell Them From Me questions,” she said.

Mr Latham also asked whether parents had requested the creation of a “suspension room at the school so that ‘they don’t have their kids at home’”.
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One Nation NSW leader Mark Latham said Mr Train left Walgett primary school after suffering a heart attack and said the slain principal’s experience with the education department had left him bitter and bruised.

“He was a passionate school reformer who had to leave for a health reason but was determined for his work [at Walgett Community College Primary School] to go on and was disappointed when it didn’t,” said Mr Latham.

Mr Latham disputed reports that the emails Mr Train sent to the education department indicated a decline in the former principal’s mental health.

“He contacted me as a passionate and concerned former principal whose sole motivation was the best interest of Indigenous kids and he had documentation that supported his complaint,” he said.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/police-shooting-slain-nsw-teacher-nathan...

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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #190 - Dec 13^th, 2022 at 6:53pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 1:41pm:

Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Tra...

Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research. Cry

Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺

Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?

It may not have been the missing person they were going there to locate that had firearms … his brother may have had legal firearms.

The alleged missing person is the ex school principal, who was wearing camo gear and was firing away at the coppers.

That’s correct. But…. The cops didn’t know he would be in camo gear with guns waiting for them as sitting ducks in an ambush.
It’s know after the event.
We are talking about whether the cops knew he had guns… I would say the ex prin may not have been the one with guns. Because no one knew who was really living as off grid hermits in that house.

That old house was owned by the former principal's brother and brother's wife. That much was known.

She also worked at a school.... in Tara I think.

Education QLD said both Nathaniel & Stacey Trian were former employees.

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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #191 - Dec 13^th, 2022 at 6:55pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:35pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 1:41pm:

Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Tra...

Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research. Cry

Actually all your links are pretty damn good Bobby. I've been noticing that for some time too. Good work ✅

Meantime ... unnecessary carnage has taken place in QLD. Just before Christmas too. What a dreadful Christmas (and New Year) for all those affected families and communities. 🥺

Thanks Lisa,
we still don't know if the cops did their proper homework
before going around to that house?
Did they know that the owners had firearms?

It may not have been the missing person they were going there to locate that had firearms … his brother may have had legal firearms.

The alleged missing person is the ex school principal, who was wearing camo gear and was firing away at the coppers.

That’s correct. But…. The cops didn’t know he would be in camo gear with guns waiting for them as sitting ducks in an ambush.
It’s know after the event.
We are talking about whether the cops knew he had guns… I would say the ex prin may not have been the one with guns. Because no one knew who was really living as off grid hermits in that house.

That old house was owned by the former principal's brother and brother's wife. That much was known.

Okay so it’s the brother and his wife that own the place.
I wonder if whomever had the firearms… if it was registered or not?
If registered… the police would know… there are heaps of people I know with registered firearms and gun licence. It means there is a certain amount of responsibility expected from gun owners.
If the police knew there were firearms… there was no reason to suspect any event as they were there to locate a “missing person”.

All good questions.

I'm also wondering if they were wearing bullet proof vests (I don't know their protocols).

Why would they be wearing bullet proof vests?

As Sophia has said they were there to investigate a missing person ..... not expecting a hail of bullets & a fire fight.

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Reply #192 - Dec 13^th, 2022 at 7:03pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 12:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 12:06pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 11:42am:

And that's only a sample of the utter crap this girlie posts here. Angry

Your efforts to admonish Mothra are admirable. How about evening it up a bit? Boris, Graps, Soren, Gnads all need criticism too, you realise? They are just as guilty as Mothra of, "posting utter crap," all the time. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

But not you ey PhukKnuckle?

Ignore the hypocritical multi cyber junkie fwit please ESPECIALLY when he barges in under that id to justify the trolling and derailing caused by his multi cyber junkie buddies ☹️

Larry’s post here is just the outpurings of a brain damaged by drugs and too much time on the computer. Do we really need such in OzPol?

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Re: Police 'executed' in Qld
Reply #193 - Dec 13^th, 2022 at 7:13pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:40pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:35pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Sophia wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 2:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 1:41pm:

Bobby earlier provided THE BEST LINK I've seen.

It's ALL explained here 👇

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531307/Wieambilla-shooting-Gareth-Tra...

Thanks Lisa,
at someone appreciates my research. Cry