Peter Sutton finds it distressing that in north and central Australia, relatives of small children “cruel” them by inflicting pain to make the child angry and violent, even from six months old. He believes this is a tradition dating from earliest times when aggression needed to be instilled in children.

NOWRA WROTE his book “Bad Dreaming” after a spell in Alice Springs hospital in 2005, when he saw numerous Aboriginal women and young girls with severe injuries from domestic violence. He visited outback communities and found them astonishingly brutal:

“Some of the women’s faces ended up looking as though an incompetent butcher had conducted plastic surgery with a hammer and saw. The fear in the women’s eyes reminded me of dogs whipped into cringing submission.”

In contemporary Australia, polygamy and traditions of promised-brides continue in Arnhem Land and other remote areas. Until recently, the judiciary was lenient in such cases involving forced under-age sex. Jarrett writes,

“There are Aboriginal men who still claim these modern young girls as their promised possession, and have cars, guns, outstations and kin to help them secure and punish these resistant girls, well away from public purview. ..A man’s traditional sense of entitlement, and use of violence to enforce it, can still triumph over the emancipation of a young Aboriginal woman’s mind.”

In 2004 at Yarralin near Katherine, a 55-year-old married man physically and sexually assaulted his 14-year-old promised bride for two days while she pleaded she was too young for sex. In August, 2005, in an under-the-tree session, Justice Brian Martin noted the cultural context, and gave the man a one-month sentence suspended. On appeal the sentence was increased to three years and a defence appeal to the High Court was lost. Justice Martin later admitted he had been too lenient.

In 2002 at Maningrida, Jackie Pascoe Jamilmira, a 50-year-old wife killer, had forced sex on a 15-year-old promised bride, for whom he had given presents to the ‘bride’s’ parents. He then fired a shotgun into the air to warn off the girls’ family members. Justice John Gallop of the NT Supreme Court sentenced him to 24 hours gaol for unlawful sex, saying the matter should never have come to court. Pascoe, he said, was exercising his conjugal rights in traditional society and the girl ‘knew what was expected of her. It’s surprising to me [that the defendant] was charged at all’.

The North Australian Aboriginal Legal Aid Service relied on expert anthropological evidence to argue that promised marriages were common and morally correct under Aboriginal law, and supported his application to the High Court.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 8:35pm:


I would gladly put my name to my position in any public venue, just not here because of the level of crazy I've witnessed, and attempts to dox me in the past.

My current stand, in case it needs reiterating, is that I don't support the voice with the information we have at hand, which is very little, which the Government have made clear.

The Referendum is not today, tomorrow or next week.

There needs to be a public forum where the aims and goal of the voice, the details on how it will work, need to be put to the public and understood.  The Government have promised this and I eagerly await it.

At that time, I am happy to weigh in again, informed, and share my opinion and how I'm going to vote.

Until then, when I see racist shgs saying the voice will give Indigenous Australians dominion and control over everyone else in the country or that they're not worthy of representation because they subhuman savages who all, every single one of them rape and murder children and should be shot and killed in the streets, I'm going to speak out against it.

When that vile, horrid hate speech goes unchecked it festers in the echo chambers, such as this place, condoned by the moderation team and site owner, it can lead to offline extremism which costs lives.

If they won't do anything about it, I will at least, for the time I'm willing to waste here, fight back against these insecure little bitch babies trying to improve their own standing in their tiny little pea-brained heads by discriminating against others as if that has any sort of impact on them.

Nah, fu them, and fu you if you defend their ilk.

That last comment is really for anyone, as for Grappler, you are one of them, so you can fu off and die at your leasure.

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2022 at 8:46pm:


I've not had the time to look at their claims, which is why I've not made any comments about them and only those people I mentioned on this forum.

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The problem with your demands of honesty is that they're meaningless coming from someone like you.

I have been honest.

I'm not interested in the debate on the Voice vote yet since the Government has yet to detail it or put forward a date for the Referendum.

What I can't stand by and let slide is racist cu, and racist mods, championing genocide or trying to paint all Indigenous Australians as child rapists and murders as their arguments against the voice, as if they're sub-human savages, or lying that it will give them control over all Australians.

It's lunacy that needs to stop, or at least get pushback.

I never said this was coming from the people you've highlighted.

I've not seen their arguments, but even if they are racist, IF, it would be nothing compared to what is being normalised within this hell hole.

There will be no details until after the referendum

So Australians are asked to vote to change the Constitution when we do not know what we are voting for.

Are we really this stupid?

The lawyers have red it and said Australia will be Governed by the High Court not by Democracy because all laws and legislation concern Aborigines.

They are not our friends and just want to destroy Australia and not make it a better place - and the Voice is step 1 and step 2 and 3 is "Truth Telling" and "Makaratta" or Revenge/ Payback

We are going into this blind deaf and dumb as well as stupid


Voice model to be decided after referendum
The Albanese government will not introduce legislation on a ­proposed model for the Indigenous voice until after Australians go to a referendum in the second half of 2023.

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