freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 8:42am:


No, you continue to be hopelessly ideologically confused.

1. Mao's CCP was not pragmatic, it was still ideological.

2. As to merit, that is an ideal for all governing politicians, whether in a consensus one-party model or adversarial multi-party system.

3. I have already explained Marx did not consider economic reform of subsistence agricultural societies, but of industrialized ones during the Industrial Revolution in europe in the 19th century. 

Only Marx's  POLITICAL theory of "socialist' government had any agency in states like Russia and China in the early 20th century; his ECONOMIC economic theories re industrial workers versus capitalists did not.

Today of course only Marx's  POLITCAL theories  re "socialism" have any relevence anywhere, eg in China and the US - witness supporters of "democratic socialism" in the US, in our post industrial age. 

4. Hence Mao's mistake (ie, "misreading" of Marx), resulting in "50 mlllion deaths".

5. Mao today is only revered for founding socialism in China; pragmatists like Deng and later CCP leaders deserve recognition for their role in the "Chinese miracle 1990-2016, achieving economic growth of 10% per annum, unparalled in history for a huge population.

And if Xi's pragmatic CCP can successfully manage the Chinese economy through the  current geopolitical storm inititated by 'MAGA' Trump, Xi will deserve reward also, unlike the ideologue Mao, who was infected with the (opposite) 'mirror image' of your mental disease, ie blind ideology.   

In fact, Western-trained Neoclassical economists in the PBofC are the greatest threat to China's prosperity today, as are Neoclassical economists to the world in general, which is what Trump is really struggling with - though he doesn't understand it.

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I have taken the time to expose the errors in your blind ideoelogy-based  narrative, in the 5 points above.

Hope it helps.....

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 12:40pm:


Deng: "as long as the cat catches mice, its colour doesn't matter".

freediver wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 6:12pm:


The change was from a wholly command economy, to a part free-enterprise market economy

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No to both questions.  The CCP is aiming to achieve "a prosperous, green socialist society"** by 2049; since Deng's reforms the CCP has overseen "the Chinese miracle" by creating the world largest middle class (over 400 million people) and lifting the remaining c. 700 million Chinese out of absolute poverty at th same time (compared with India which still has 700 million living in absolute poverty.

**which means prosperity for all people, not only some - as in predominantly free-market, capitalist economies.

And even now, there is more housing stress - re accessibility - in Oz than in China, though you are so ideoligically blind you recently denied there was a housing crises in Oz (citing fake arguments about "McMansions" - prefab 'affordable' homes are beng considered in Oz, by necessity). 

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