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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	The UK Dec 2^nd, 2022 at 2:35pm Deep below London's streets, farmers are growing herbs with no soil, in WWII bomb shelter
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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #1 - Apr 23^rd, 2024 at 12:31pm UK police charge two men with spying for China, including a parliamentary researcher
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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #2 - Apr 24^th, 2024 at 8:37pm Escaped army horses bolt through central London, one person injured
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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #3 - Apr 30^th, 2024 at 5:19pm United Kingdom Purchases RCH155 Self-Propelled Howitzer from Germany
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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2782 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: The UK Reply #4 - May 25^th, 2024 at 4:40pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30^th, 2024 at 5:19pm: United Kingdom Purchases RCH155 Self-Propelled Howitzer from Germany Let’s hope that the seller doesn’t have a clause in the contract that lets it dictate where the ammunition can be used as Australia had with the Cari Gustaf.
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Reply #5 - May 25^th, 2024 at 8:30pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 4:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30^th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

United Kingdom Purchases RCH155 Self-Propelled Howitzer from Germany Cool

Let’s hope that the seller doesn’t have a clause in the contract that lets it dictate where the ammunition can be used as Australia had with the Cari Gustaf.

Of course not, both are full members of NATO. That is not how things are done, there. Roll Eyes

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Reply #6 - May 26^th, 2024 at 9:54am

Brian Ross wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 8:30pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 4:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30^th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

United Kingdom Purchases RCH155 Self-Propelled Howitzer from Germany Cool

Let’s hope that the seller doesn’t have a clause in the contract that lets it dictate where the ammunition can be used as Australia had with the Cari Gustaf.

Of course not, both are full members of NATO. That is not how things are done, there. Roll Eyes

Thought so, they would hardly be as stupid as we were ;buying a gun and letting another country dictate our use of the ammunition.

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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #7 - May 26^th, 2024 at 2:21pm British PM Rishi Sunak announces plan to bring back mandatory national service
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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2782 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: The UK Reply #8 - May 26^th, 2024 at 3:40pm Brian Ross wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 2:21pm: British PM Rishi Sunak announces plan to bring back mandatory national service Good idea and one that we could emulate, but restricted to the direct defence of Australia.
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Reply #9 - May 26^th, 2024 at 3:50pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 3:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 2:21pm:

British PM Rishi Sunak announces plan to bring back mandatory national service Shocked

Good idea and one that we could emulate, but restricted to the direct defence of Australia.

Yeah.

Give rebellious teens, who want nothing to do with the military, some basic training and a gun - what could possibly go wrong?

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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #10 - May 26^th, 2024 at 4:14pm
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Reply #11 - May 27^th, 2024 at 9:23am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 3:50pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 3:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 2:21pm:

British PM Rishi Sunak announces plan to bring back mandatory national service Shocked

Good idea and one that we could emulate, but restricted to the direct defence of Australia.

Yeah.

Give rebellious teens, who want nothing to do with the military, some basic training and a gun - what could possibly go wrong?

What indeed?
Probably the turn around in attitudes that we saw in so many before when NS was introduced.
I did it at 18 and saw only positive results and 99% likewise in the Vietnam era conscription
Being trained in its use and the responsibility of having a firearm had only good results.

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Reply #12 - May 27^th, 2024 at 9:48am

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 9:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 3:50pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 3:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 2:21pm:

British PM Rishi Sunak announces plan to bring back mandatory national service Shocked

Good idea and one that we could emulate, but restricted to the direct defence of Australia.

Yeah.

Give rebellious teens, who want nothing to do with the military, some basic training and a gun - what could possibly go wrong?

What indeed?
Probably the turn around in attitudes that we saw in so many before when NS was introduced.
I did it at 18 and saw only positive results and 99% likewise in the Vietnam era conscription
Being trained in its use and the responsibility of having a firearm had only good results.

Killing people is fun?

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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #13 - May 27^th, 2024 at 2:30pm What does British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's proposed national service plan mean?
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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: The UK Reply #14 - May 27^th, 2024 at 2:32pm Brian Ross wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 2:30pm: What does British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's proposed national service plan mean? His diaper is full.
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Reply #15 - May 27^th, 2024 at 4:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

What does British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's proposed national service plan mean? Roll Eyes

Can't see this getting a lot of support. The pros and cons of military conscription have been discussed on here before, and while the community service idea can be argued, the use of unwilling labour for any activity can be more trouble than its worth.

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Reply #16 - May 27^th, 2024 at 4:20pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 9:48am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 9:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 3:50pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 3:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 2:21pm:

British PM Rishi Sunak announces plan to bring back mandatory national service Shocked

Good idea and one that we could emulate, but restricted to the direct defence of Australia.

Yeah.

Give rebellious teens, who want nothing to do with the military, some basic training and a gun - what could possibly go wrong?

What indeed?
Probably the turn around in attitudes that we saw in so many before when NS was introduced.
I did it at 18 and saw only positive results and 99% likewise in the Vietnam era conscription
Being trained in its use and the responsibility of having a firearm had only good results.

Killing people is fun?

Depends on the people.

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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #17 - Jun 7^th, 2024 at 5:57pm British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak apologises after being criticised for ditching D-Day commemorations early
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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #18 - Jul 4^th, 2024 at 1:58pm Watchdog bans daughter of Captain Sir Tom Moore, Hannah Ingram-Moore, from being charity trustee
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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #19 - Jul 30^th, 2024 at 3:27pm British sea lord assures Australian officials troubled warship program 'stabilising'
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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #20 - Oct 1^st, 2024 at 10:01pm Boris Johnson: I planned to invade the Netherlands during Covid
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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #21 - Oct 5^th, 2024 at 1:44am Where are the Chagos Islands, why is Britain giving up sovereignty and what happens to the Diego Garcia military base?
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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #22 - Oct 9^th, 2024 at 8:02pm Britain's MI5 intelligence agency warns of growing attacks from Russia and Iran, as war in the Middle East continues
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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #23 - Feb 24^th, 2025 at 5:01pm In focus: CETUS the Royal Navy’s next XLUUV Up close with HERNE – BAE Systems’ XLUAV concept
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Reply #24 - Feb 24^th, 2025 at 6:01pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

What does British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's proposed national service plan mean? Roll Eyes

This: "Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey described the scheme as "nonsense" and said the armed forces needed "professional soldiers, not people there for one year".

Scottish National Party deputy leader Keith Brown told the BBC the Conservatives were "trying to put a sticking plaster on the future of young people and the future of the armed forces and it's not going to work".

Nigel Farage, the honorary president of the right-wing Reform UK party, called the plan a "joke".

Admiral Alan West, a former chief of naval staff, said the plan was "bonkers".

"I'm delighted if more young people become aware of defence and are involved … but this idea is basically bonkers," he said.

"We need to spend more on defence, and – by doing what he's [Sunak] suggesting – money will be sucked out of defence."

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Reply #25 - Feb 24^th, 2025 at 7:34pm

Belgarion wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 6:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

What does British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's proposed national service plan mean? Roll Eyes

This: "Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey described the scheme as "nonsense" and said the armed forces needed "professional soldiers, not people there for one year".

Scottish National Party deputy leader Keith Brown told the BBC the Conservatives were "trying to put a sticking plaster on the future of young people and the future of the armed forces and it's not going to work".

Nigel Farage, the honorary president of the right-wing Reform UK party, called the plan a "joke".

Admiral Alan West, a former chief of naval staff, said the plan was "bonkers".

"I'm delighted if more young people become aware of defence and are involved … but this idea is basically bonkers," he said.

"We need to spend more on defence, and – by doing what he's [Sunak] suggesting – money will be sucked out of defence."

Rishi Sunak is no longer PM. He got deposed in an election in the 2024 general election.

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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #26 - Feb 25^th, 2025 at 9:59pm One possible idea to pay for increased defence in the UK:
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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #27 - Mar 13^th, 2025 at 9:31pm Prince William will travel to Estonia to meet with UK troops next week
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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #28 - Apr 5^th, 2025 at 12:44pm 'Exploding' Tunnock's teacakes cleared by tests to fly again
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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #29 - Apr 11^th, 2025 at 11:48am Conscription no longer dirty word for some Brits concerned about Vladimir Putin
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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #30 - Apr 17^th, 2025 at 5:24pm King Charles's Easter message focuses on war, 'kindness' and heroism ahead of annual church service
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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44218	Re: The UK Reply #31 - Jun 7^th, 2025 at 2:55pm WW2 air raid shelter found under playground
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