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Re: The UK
Reply #15 - May 27^th, 2024 at 4:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

What does British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's proposed national service plan mean? Roll Eyes

Can't see this getting a lot of support. The pros and cons of military conscription have been discussed on here before, and while the community service idea can be argued, the use of unwilling labour for any activity can be more trouble than its worth.

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Reply #16 - May 27^th, 2024 at 4:20pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 9:48am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 9:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 3:50pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 3:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 2:21pm:

British PM Rishi Sunak announces plan to bring back mandatory national service Shocked

Good idea and one that we could emulate, but restricted to the direct defence of Australia.

Yeah.

Give rebellious teens, who want nothing to do with the military, some basic training and a gun - what could possibly go wrong?

What indeed?
Probably the turn around in attitudes that we saw in so many before when NS was introduced.
I did it at 18 and saw only positive results and 99% likewise in the Vietnam era conscription
Being trained in its use and the responsibility of having a firearm had only good results.

Killing people is fun?

Depends on the people.

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Re: The UK
Reply #24 - Feb 24^th, 2025 at 6:01pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

What does British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's proposed national service plan mean? Roll Eyes

This: "Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey described the scheme as "nonsense" and said the armed forces needed "professional soldiers, not people there for one year".

Scottish National Party deputy leader Keith Brown told the BBC the Conservatives were "trying to put a sticking plaster on the future of young people and the future of the armed forces and it's not going to work".

Nigel Farage, the honorary president of the right-wing Reform UK party, called the plan a "joke".

Admiral Alan West, a former chief of naval staff, said the plan was "bonkers".

"I'm delighted if more young people become aware of defence and are involved … but this idea is basically bonkers," he said.

"We need to spend more on defence, and – by doing what he's [Sunak] suggesting – money will be sucked out of defence."

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Reply #25 - Feb 24^th, 2025 at 7:34pm

Belgarion wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 6:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

What does British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's proposed national service plan mean? Roll Eyes

This: "Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey described the scheme as "nonsense" and said the armed forces needed "professional soldiers, not people there for one year".

Scottish National Party deputy leader Keith Brown told the BBC the Conservatives were "trying to put a sticking plaster on the future of young people and the future of the armed forces and it's not going to work".

Nigel Farage, the honorary president of the right-wing Reform UK party, called the plan a "joke".

Admiral Alan West, a former chief of naval staff, said the plan was "bonkers".

"I'm delighted if more young people become aware of defence and are involved … but this idea is basically bonkers," he said.

"We need to spend more on defence, and – by doing what he's [Sunak] suggesting – money will be sucked out of defence."

Rishi Sunak is no longer PM. He got deposed in an election in the 2024 general election.

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