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Re: Americans Support their Second Amendment
Reply #90 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:21pm
 
If it is paranoid fantasy why are biden appointees openly discussing it?
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Re: Americans Support their Second Amendment
Reply #91 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:24pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:21pm:
If it is paranoid fantasy why are biden appointees openly discussing it?


Because the threat comes from the Right, the Trumpites which have demonstrated their contempt for the Constitution and everything it pretends to hold dear, Mort.  Tsk, tsk, tsk, do you really need this explained to you?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Americans Support their Second Amendment
Reply #92 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:39pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 8:16pm:
man the barricades bwian.

getting rid of guns in america can be your lifes mission.

personally, i think you'd do more good going and cooking meals for the homeless but obsessing on the internet about an issue in another country is way easier.

and we do know the leftie likes the easy path


I think Brian said he was a kitchen hand in the army.

Brian has as much chance of influencing Americas gun laws as Little Pecca has to become the Queen of NZ.
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Re: Americans Support their Second Amendment
Reply #93 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:55pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 9:58pm:
Our fiends here only feel safe when their government has its boot on the neck of their neighbors. They think big government is the answer rather than understanding it is the problem! Members of the brandon administration are openly talking about their personal plans after the breakup of the United States. It sounds like we are instore for some really bad times, we just might need to be able to protect ourselves from the coming unpleasantness. It is the intention of the current administration and its puppet masters to destroy America as a country!



You come up with this twaddle when the Republicans really did try to destroy the country. What a joke.
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Re: Americans Support their Second Amendment
Reply #94 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 11:00pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 8:16pm:
man the barricades bwian.

getting rid of guns in america can be your lifes mission.

personally, i think you'd do more good going and cooking meals for the homeless but obsessing on the internet about an issue in another country is way easier.

and we do know the leftie likes the easy path


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getting rid of guns in america can be your lifes mission.


Nobody is even suggesting to get rid of guns. Sensible control of the most dangerous guns is allowed under any accurate reading / interpretation of the second amendment.

At the same time law abiding citizens can have all the guns they want with very few exceptions.
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Americans Will Always Support the 2nd. Amendment
Reply #95 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 10:16am
 
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NEW McLAUGHLIN POLL SHOWS
A MAJORITY SUPPORT FOR THE SECOND AMENDMENT.


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BELLEVUE, WA – A new survey by McLaughlin & Associates, a nationally-recognized polling firm based in Blauvelt, N.Y., shows overwhelming public support for the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, and a clear majority belief that more gun control laws would not have prevented recent mass shootings in Georgia and Colorado.

According to Alan Gottlieb, founder and executive vice president of the Second Amendment Foundation, the new McLaughlin data shows how out-of-touch extremist gun control proponents are with public sentiment on gun rights and how to address violent crime.
The survey may be read here.


“Based on these survey results, anti-gunners, including Joe Biden, should cool their zeal for passing new legislation,” Gottlieb observed. “Over 72 percent of Americans support the right to keep and bear arms. Over 73 percent agree the Second Amendment is one of our most important and cherished rights protected by the U.S. Constitution. And more than 58 percent say they are likely to support a candidate for Congress who supports the right to keep and bear arms.”

The McLaughlin survey revealed that 52.2 percent of the public thinks better enforcement of existing gun laws is the right approach to reducing violent crime, and 55.5 percent want politicians to focus on current laws rather than enact more laws (36.1%). Importantly, 58.1 percent of Americans believe any proposed firearm policies should be debated and enacted through a democratic process, while only 31 percent think the president should enact policy by executive order.

They also believe by a margin of 44.9 percent to 37.6 percent that more gun control laws would not have stopped recent mass shooting tragedies, while 17.5 percent aren’t sure.

SAF commissioned the survey. McLaughlin & Associates conducted the poll among 1,000 likely voters across the country April 8-13. It has a +/- 3.1 percentage point sampling error with a 95% level of confidence, according to Jim McLaughlin.

McLaughlin told SAF, “This survey shows clearly that Americans cherish their Second Amendment right. It’s obvious. Anybody who tells you Americans don’t believe in the Second Amendment doesn’t know what they’re talking about. It’s also clear they do not want Joe Biden deciding gun policy on his own, but instead want this issue debated through the democratic process.”

“As we’ve been saying for years,” Gottlieb observed, “gun control extremists have been completely wrong in their desire erase the Second Amendment and turn a right to bear arms into a heavily-regulated privilege. That notion doesn’t even square with non-gun owners, as the McLaughlin survey results confirm.

“Americans are protective of their constitutional rights,” Gottlieb said, “and we will use these poll results to fight the attacks on gun owners happening right now on Capitol Hill and in the Oval Office.”






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Re: Americans Support their Second Amendment
Reply #96 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 10:19am
 
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Americans Support their Second Amendment


They were not protecting it in 2008 when the court gutted it.
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Reply #97 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 10:19am
 
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Reply #98 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 10:57am
 
Panther wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 10:16am:
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NEW McLAUGHLIN POLL SHOWS
A MAJORITY SUPPORT FOR THE SECOND AMENDMENT.


https://imgur.com/ay4GYqv.gif


Source:      
SAF
       Quote:
BELLEVUE, WA – A new survey by McLaughlin & Associates, a nationally-recognized polling firm based in Blauvelt, N.Y., shows overwhelming public support for the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, and a clear majority belief that more gun control laws would not have prevented recent mass shootings in Georgia and Colorado.

According to Alan Gottlieb, founder and executive vice president of the Second Amendment Foundation, the new McLaughlin data shows how out-of-touch extremist gun control proponents are with public sentiment on gun rights and how to address violent crime.
The survey may be read here.


“Based on these survey results, anti-gunners, including Joe Biden, should cool their zeal for passing new legislation,” Gottlieb observed. “Over 72 percent of Americans support the right to keep and bear arms. Over 73 percent agree the Second Amendment is one of our most important and cherished rights protected by the U.S. Constitution. And more than 58 percent say they are likely to support a candidate for Congress who supports the right to keep and bear arms.”

The McLaughlin survey revealed that 52.2 percent of the public thinks better enforcement of existing gun laws is the right approach to reducing violent crime, and 55.5 percent want politicians to focus on current laws rather than enact more laws (36.1%). Importantly, 58.1 percent of Americans believe any proposed firearm policies should be debated and enacted through a democratic process, while only 31 percent think the president should enact policy by executive order.

They also believe by a margin of 44.9 percent to 37.6 percent that more gun control laws would not have stopped recent mass shooting tragedies, while 17.5 percent aren’t sure.

SAF commissioned the survey. McLaughlin & Associates conducted the poll among 1,000 likely voters across the country April 8-13. It has a +/- 3.1 percentage point sampling error with a 95% level of confidence, according to Jim McLaughlin.

McLaughlin told SAF, “This survey shows clearly that Americans cherish their Second Amendment right. It’s obvious. Anybody who tells you Americans don’t believe in the Second Amendment doesn’t know what they’re talking about. It’s also clear they do not want Joe Biden deciding gun policy on his own, but instead want this issue debated through the democratic process.”

“As we’ve been saying for years,” Gottlieb observed, “gun control extremists have been completely wrong in their desire erase the Second Amendment and turn a right to bear arms into a heavily-regulated privilege. That notion doesn’t even square with non-gun owners, as the McLaughlin survey results confirm.

“Americans are protective of their constitutional rights,” Gottlieb said, “and we will use these poll results to fight the attacks on gun owners happening right now on Capitol Hill and in the Oval Office.”





The article builds and shoots down straw men. It is disingenuous in nature - lacks basic honesty. 

The statistics look manufactured, they do not agree with any of the polls that consistently say there is vast support for sensible gun laws. People / the nation is well and truly over school shootings.
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Reply #99 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 11:26am
 
The 'Right of the People' as affirmed in the Second Amendment:

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God Bless
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God Bless
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The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
The United States Constitution
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The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
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God Bless
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Reply #100 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 1:49pm
 
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Reply #101 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 2:33pm
 
Panther wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 11:26am:
The 'Right of the People' as affirmed in the Second Amendment:

https://imgur.com/ay4GYqv.gif


God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
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God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
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God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
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God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
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Absolute BS as shown by the Court changing it by interpretation in 2008.

The Second Amendment had one defined meaning from 1791 to to 2008 and then a completely different (bogus) interpretation from 2008 to today. Previously the 2nd amendment was interpreted in terms of the words that make up the amendment. Today that isn't the case.
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Re: Americans Support their Second Amendment
Reply #102 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 3:23pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 2:33pm:
Panther wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 11:26am:
The 'Right of the People' as affirmed in the Second Amendment:

https://imgur.com/ay4GYqv.gif


God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
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God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
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Absolute BS as shown by the Court changing it by interpretation in 2008.

The Second Amendment had one defined meaning from 1791 to to 2008 and then a completely different (bogus) interpretation from 2008 to today. Previously the 2nd amendment was interpreted in terms of the words that make up the amendment. Today that isn't the case.


FANTASTIC!!!.....that means it will stay meaning exactly what me & my fellow Law-Abiding American Gun Owning Citizens like it to mean, & YOU Duckboy, YOU still can't do jack shidt about it Duckboy 'cuz yer still just an Australian havin' ta deal with American Law!!  Oh, your eternal frustration!! Grin Grin Grin Grin


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God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
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God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
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Re: Americans Support their Second Amendment
Reply #103 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 4:06pm
 
Panther wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 3:23pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 2:33pm:
Panther wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 11:26am:
The 'Right of the People' as affirmed in the Second Amendment:

https://imgur.com/ay4GYqv.gif


God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
............





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Absolute BS as shown by the Court changing it by interpretation in 2008.

The Second Amendment had one defined meaning from 1791 to to 2008 and then a completely different (bogus) interpretation from 2008 to today. Previously the 2nd amendment was interpreted in terms of the words that make up the amendment. Today that isn't the case.


FANTASTIC!!!.....that means it will stay meaning exactly what me & my fellow Law-Abiding American Gun Owning Citizens like it to mean, & YOU Duckboy, YOU still can't do jack shidt about it Duckboy 'cuz yer still just an Australian havin' ta deal with American Law!!  Oh, your eternal frustration!! Grin Grin Grin Grin


https://imgur.com/LfHC5l3.png


God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
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God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
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Yes, Panther, but you've left the US for a country with gun laws. You're safe from mass shooters. You have no gun in your holster or under your bed. Not only that, but you support a politician who publicly supports terminating your fine constitution.

Ducky's lucky you get to vote, no? I, for one, hope he's kept safe from any stray bullets.

You?
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Reply #104 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 5:12pm
 
Panther wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 3:23pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 2:33pm:
Panther wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 11:26am:
The 'Right of the People' as affirmed in the Second Amendment:

https://imgur.com/ay4GYqv.gif


God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
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God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
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God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
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God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
............





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Absolute BS as shown by the Court changing it by interpretation in 2008.

The Second Amendment had one defined meaning from 1791 to to 2008 and then a completely different (bogus) interpretation from 2008 to today. Previously the 2nd amendment was interpreted in terms of the words that make up the amendment. Today that isn't the case.


FANTASTIC!!!.....that means it will stay meaning exactly what me & my fellow Law-Abiding American Gun Owning Citizens like it to mean, & YOU Duckboy, YOU still can't do jack shidt about it Duckboy 'cuz yer still just an Australian havin' ta deal with American Law!!  Oh, your eternal frustration!! Grin Grin Grin Grin


https://imgur.com/LfHC5l3.png


God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
............
God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
............
God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
............
God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
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God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
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God Bless
The United States Constitution
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God Bless
The United States Supreme Court
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God Bless
AMERICA
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The 2008 decision was done under the influence of the gun lobby being in control of both political party's and influential over the court. This decision for the gun lobby was an attack on the rights and safety of the people and the integrity of the constitution.
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