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Reply #90 - Jul 2nd, 2023 at 5:49pm
 
Sophia wrote on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 11:44am:
Sophia wrote on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 3:54am:
Has there been mention or discussion of how…..

“IgG4 Antibodies Induced by Repeated Vaccination May Generate Immune Tolerance to the SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein” yet?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37243095/


Worth a discussion?  Undecided

Abstract

Less than a year after the global emergence of the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, a novel vaccine platform based on mRNA technology was introduced to the market. Globally, around 13.38 billion COVID-19 vaccine doses of diverse platforms have been administered. To date, 72.3% of the total population has been injected at least once with a COVID-19 vaccine. As the immunity provided by these vaccines rapidly wanes, their ability to prevent hospitalization and severe disease in individuals with comorbidities has recently been questioned, and increasing evidence has shown that, as with many other vaccines, they do not produce sterilizing immunity, allowing people to suffer frequent re-infections. Additionally, recent investigations have found abnormally high levels of IgG4 in people who were administered two or more injections of the mRNA vaccines. HIV, Malaria, and Pertussis vaccines have also been reported to induce higher-than-normal IgG4 synthesis. Overall, there are three critical factors determining the class switch to IgG4 antibodies: excessive antigen concentration, repeated vaccination, and the type of vaccine used. It has been suggested that an increase in IgG4 levels could have a protecting role by preventing immune over-activation, similar to that occurring during successful allergen-specific immunotherapy by inhibiting IgE-induced effects. However, emerging evidence suggests that the reported increase in IgG4 levels detected after repeated vaccination with the mRNA vaccines may not be a protective mechanism; rather, it constitutes an immune tolerance mechanism to the spike protein that could promote unopposed SARS-CoV2 infection and replication by suppressing natural antiviral responses. Increased IgG4 synthesis due to repeated mRNA vaccination with high antigen concentrations may also cause autoimmune diseases, and promote cancer growth and autoimmune myocarditis in susceptible individuals.


Geert Vandebossche predicted the vaccine would overpower innate immunity leaving you vulnerable looks like he was right.

There has been an increase with cancers the pro vaxxers will say people missed treatment during lockdowns those with open minds will consider all possibilities.
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Reply #91 - Jul 5th, 2023 at 11:45am
 
A district court in Louisiana ordered the FBI, the White House, the department of health, and a slew of other agencies to cease all communication with social media companies for “the purpose of urging, encouraging, pressuring, or inducing in any manner the removal, deletion, suppression, or reduction of content containing protected free speech.”

“If the allegations made by Plaintiffs are true, the present case arguably involves the most massive attack against free speech in United States’ history,” wrote Judge Terry Doughty in a 155 page judgement that observers expect the Biden administration to appeal.

A group of public health academics and the states of Missouri and Louisiana brought the case last year, claiming various arms of the US government had pressured Facebook and Twitter to censor or shadow ban posts about Covid19.

Posts of the plaintiffs that were removed included claims Covid19 came from a lab in Wuhan, that masks were ineffective, that lockdowns were excessively costly, that vaccine mandates were wrong, that Covid19 vaccines didn’t stop transmission and led to health risks for young people.

“The right to free speech is not a member of any political party and does not hold any political ideology. It is the purpose of the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment to preserve an uninhibited marketplace of ideas in which truth will ultimately prevail, rather than to countenance monopolisation of the market, whether it be by government itself or private licensee,” the judge wrote.

He said the plaintiffs “have presented substantial evidence in support of their claims that they were the victims of a far-reaching and widespread censorship campaign.”

“[T]he evidence produced thus far depicts an almost dystopian scenario … During the COVID-19 pandemic, a period perhaps best characterised by widespread doubt and uncertainty, the United States Government seems to have assumed a role similar to an Orwellian ‘Ministry of Truth.’”
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/judge-rules-joe-biden-administration-tram...


The verdict comes as governments in Australia and the UK introduce legislation to boost government’s power to compel social media companies to censor viewpoints deemed misinformation and disinformation.
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Reply #92 - Jul 5th, 2023 at 4:40pm
 
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A district court in Louisiana ordered the FBI, the White House, the department of health, and a slew of other agencies to cease all communication with social media companies for “the purpose of urging, encouraging, pressuring, or inducing in any manner the removal, deletion, suppression, or reduction of content containing protected free speech.”


Amazing hypocrisy isn’t it?  Roll Eyes

So many gag orders and deletion in the media world of what didn’t suit the narrative yet at the same time pushed their own agenda so freely and hindered! Using famous people to do the urging also!

Once I found this out… I totally did not trust anything  the convid jab pushers were doing.
All I saw was evil.

It was BS saying it’s free choice but it’s “no jab no job” otherwise. Herding and backing people into a corner.

All I saw was divisional tactics when they blatantly said “it’s a pandemic of the unvaccinated”
So who is filling hospitals with corona now?????

Oh but that’s not openly admitted about is it now? !!!

Funny how they shut their mouths and it’s all hush hush.
No more blaming/accusing unvaxxed then?
What’s changed that you think?
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Reply #93 - Jul 16th, 2023 at 1:52pm
 
Well now it’s gone too far! This is lunacy.
Next trick ….they will only attend house fires of the vaxxed and ignore the unvaxxed?  Roll Eyes
This divisive BS has grown tiresome.



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Reply #94 - Jul 31st, 2023 at 12:08pm
 
The only silver lining of the Covid-19 pandemic was to show in real time how hopelessly wrong the so-called “scientific consensus” can be, whether it’s about the effectiveness of lockdowns, vaccines, masks or even the origin and nature of the virus itself.

Adam Creighton



This something to be put on large banners and display at every parliament house and media outlet as a kind of memento mori of stupidity and hyperbole by politicians and their media keepers.

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Reply #95 - May 8th, 2024 at 8:24pm
 
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AstraZeneca vaccine withdrawn after fatal blood clot revelation


AstraZeneca’s Vaxzevria Covid vaccine has been withdrawn globally, a year after it was discontinued in Australia.

May 8, 2024

AstraZeneca’s Covid vaccine has been withdrawn globally after admitting it causes adverse side effects.

As reported by the UK’s Telegraph, the Anglo-Swedish pharmaceutical producer withdrew the vaccine globally on Tuesday, UK time.

It comes after Australia’s Therapeutic Goods Authority discontinued use of the AstraZeneca vaccine in April 2023.

On April 30, AstraZeneca conceded that the vaccine, sold under the name Vaxzevria, can cause fatal blood clots and low platelet counts. The admission came through court documents in a UK class action lawsuit that sought £100 million for almost 50 victims of AstraZeneca vaccine side effects.

The application to withdraw the vaccine was made on March 5 and came into effect on May 7.


In June 2021 the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation recommended that Australians over the age of 60 avoid taking Vaxzevria.

The last batch in Australia reportedly expired on March 21, 2023.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/astrazeneca-vaccine-wit...




The last batch we had was thrown out people didn't want to get another clot shot.

People were forced to take this clot shot or be fired from jobs locked out of society they had to show vax papers to go  shopping.

3 years after it was approved the manufacturer withdrew it because of risks.

Another win for the conspiracy theorists.  Wink

Politicians who didn't toe the party line were excommunicated
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Reply #96 - May 8th, 2024 at 10:56pm
 
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CNN lefty-luvy Chris Cuomo admits he is taking IVERMECTIN for long Covid

"Ivermectin was a bogey man early on in Covid, that was wrong, we were given bad information about Ivermectin",  Cuomo  said.   

Cuomo also stated that his doctor was using Ivermectin to treat her patients during Covid and it was working and that "Joe Rogan was right"

https://twitter.com/CraigKellyPHON/status/1788179962333417669



Another win for conspiracy theorists those who got it right.
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Reply #97 - May 9th, 2024 at 7:12am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 31st, 2023 at 12:08pm:

The only silver lining of the Covid-19 pandemic was to show in real time
how hopelessly wrong the so-called “scientific consensus” can be,
whether it’s about the effectiveness of lockdowns, vaccines, masks or even the origin and nature of the virus itself.

Adam Creighton



This something to be put on large banners and display at every parliament house and media outlet as a kind of memento mori of stupidity and hyperbole by politicians and their media keepers.




frank,

Despite Adam Creighton's good intent, he still used the   wrong   word, imo.


The only silver lining of the Covid-19 pandemic was to show in real time
how hopelessly   FRAUDULENT   the so-called “scientific consensus” can be,
whether it’s about the effectiveness of lockdowns, vaccines, masks or even the origin and nature of the virus itself.


FIXED.


fraudulent = = done by or involving fraud.      deceitful or dishonest.



critical thinking = = is an agent of true scientific method


QUOTE;       "Science isn't 'science', if people can no longer question it!"

i.e.
'Science' [human knowledge] 'evolves', and has always increased, ONLY, when people have been permitted to questioned 'todays' scientific status quo.





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Reply #98 - Jun 7th, 2024 at 8:17pm
 
Robert Redfield, the former head of the US Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, said mandating Covid-19 vaccine was a “terrible decision” and lockdowns and school closures were a “big mistake”.

Dr Redfield, an esteemed virologist who led the CDC from 2018 to 2021, said the pharmaceutical giants had a “huge influence” on convincing governments that everyone including children should be coerced into being vaccinated and boosted during the pandemic.

“We absolutely never should have mandated vaccines, it was a terrible decision … the rationale for mandating vaccines for healthy firefighters and policemen, those in the military, hospital workers, teachers, was emotional, It wasn’t and it shouldn’t have happened,” he said in an interview with Chris Cuomo published on Wednesday (Thursday AEST).

Dr Redfield, 72, said the Covid-19 vaccines, which the Biden administration worked to prevent serious illness and death for vulnerable, older patients “over 65” but weren’t suitable for health young people, didn’t prevent transmission and wore off after six months at most.
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Reply #99 - Jun 7th, 2024 at 8:39pm
 
Over 7,000,000 died from covid
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Reply #100 - Jun 7th, 2024 at 9:10pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 7th, 2024 at 8:39pm:
Over 7,000,000 died from covid

And how does relate or relevant, in any way, to what Redfield said?

You can be spiritual all you like, sprinty, but that is no free pass to being stupid all you like.


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Reply #101 - Jun 7th, 2024 at 9:33pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 7th, 2024 at 8:39pm:
Over 7,000,000 died from covid


700,000,000 recovered from covid, too. Right now, there is a bit of an outbreak around town here of covid and influenza. With the agricultural Show coming up in a few days, we will be seeing a severe 'flu epidemic in CQ. But just about 100% of us will recover.
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Reply #102 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 6:20pm
 
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Deceased COVID-19 vaccine recipient payments and funeral costs


In cases involving death you may be eligible for payment and support for funeral costs. We’ll make this payment to the deceased’s estate.

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/deceased-covid-19-vaccine-recipient-payment...




Nice of the Government to pay funeral costs when they forced people to take the vax.

Is this an admission the vax can kill you?
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Reply #103 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 6:35pm
 
I wonder if the government has been paying the funeral costs for the more than 24,000 (and counting) people who have died from Covid in Australia so far? Including the 6,600 (and counting) aged care deaths?

No, I didn't think so.
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Reply #104 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 2:56pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 8th, 2024 at 6:35pm:
I wonder if the government has been paying the funeral costs for the more than 24,000 (and counting) people who have died from Covid in Australia so far? Including the 6,600 (and counting) aged care deaths?

No, I didn't think so.


Are you trying to say that these people would not have died from the common cold? I worked with a girl who had a compromised immune system. When she got covid, she was out of work for at least 2 weeks.
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