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Reply #15 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:19am
 
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The death rate for fully vaccinated individuals was 0.636 percent, which was 6.6 times higher than the unvaccinated death rate of 0.0957 percent. 26 deaths were reported among the fully vaccinated individuals, compared to 34 deaths in the unvaccinated.


What is the biggest class in the UK, the vaccinated or the unvaccinated?
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Re: Are you ready for your 5th booster ??
Reply #16 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:21am
 
Well, all I can say is:

If you do want to take the Covid vaccines, fine.
If you don't want to take the Covid vaccines, fine.

"You do you" as New York City's MTA said about masks.

"Let's respect each other's choices".

Just need to get that message through to our seemingly rabid antivaxxers who are intent on using misinformation to prevent others from making their own informed choice (and by "informed choice" I mean by getting advice from real doctors and other medical professionals).

Not "advice" from quacks and memes shared on social media.
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Reply #17 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:21am
 
Sir Loose Nail is hilarious. Larry.
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Re: Are you ready for your 5th booster ??
Reply #18 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:29am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:15am:
Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:52am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:48am:
because it is simply not true that's why you keep repeating it. You lot just keep making it up as you go.


Please - just stop it! My sides are aching here.

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Do you think this topic is funny? It's not pal!


Sorry Lisa but it is.

It really is.

Sir Nail talking about others making things up.

I almost fell off the chair there, lucky I wasn't drinking anything or it would have been sprayed all over my PC monitor.
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Reply #19 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:32am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:10am:
Higher Death, Hospitalization Rates Among Vaccinated Individuals: UK COVID-19 Data

The UK is one of the most vaccinated countries in the world against Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19). Out of the nation’s 68 million people, more than 45 million have received at least a single dose, and over 33 million have been fully vaccinated. However, a new report released by Public Health England (PHE) highlighted the fact that in the past few months, more fully vaccinated people have died from the Delta variant compared to unvaccinated people.

The report, titled “SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England, Technical briefing 16,” examined 60,624 Delta infections between February 1 and June 14, of which 35,521 cases were observed in unvaccinated individuals and 4,087 cases were seen in fully vaccinated individuals who got infected at least 14 days after their second dose.

The death rate for fully vaccinated individuals was 0.636 percent, which was 6.6 times higher than the unvaccinated death rate of 0.0957 percent. 26 deaths were reported among the fully vaccinated individuals, compared to 34 deaths in the unvaccinated. The death rates among fully vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals were both below one percent.

Fully vaccinated individuals were also found to be more prone to hospitalization than their unvaccinated counterparts. Out of the 4,087 fully vaccinated people, 2.05 percent (84 people) ended up in a hospital. Among the 35,521 unvaccinated people, only 1.48 percent (527 people) were hospitalized.


Only someone seriously insane would think this data and this topic was funny. It's not! We should ALL be concerned and angry!


Hi Lisa,
I don't know if that is true:
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-britain-idUSL2N2VK15E
VERDICT

Misleading. COVID-19 vaccines do not make people more likely to die from the virus. The manual death rate estimates misrepresent UKHSA data and miss context about the high level of vaccine coverage in England.



Original story here:
https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/07/04/deaths-hospital-vaccinated-uk.html


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Reply #20 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:34am
 
The story is crap.
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Reply #21 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:43am
 
The story has this problem in it:

that when much of a population has been vaccinated,

“most infections and deaths are expected to be among those vaccinated”

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Reply #22 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:50am
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:43am:
The story has this problem in it:

that when much of a population has been vaccinated,

“most infections and deaths are expected to be among those vaccinated”



Well, yes. Of course.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1658995045/372#372

"It's just basic maths".

(Thanks, Greg).  Smiley
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Reply #23 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:55am
 
Trouble is there was a growing antivax movement precovid. Measles epidemics came back as did deaths of children “from this harmless childhood disease.”

So covid came and antivaxxers would have swung into action. Fear of the needle then pretend-fear of a RDNA vaxx saw lots of people choose not to be vaccinated. Many of these died of the disease.

I was arguing with a couple antivaxxers for a while—they were vaxxed but they were not letting their kids be vaxxed—they claimed the vaxxed caused autism. Garbage of course—autism is identified at about the time the children are vaxxinated. The parents got vicarious exitement and their little children took the risk. Scum.
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Re: Are you ready for your 5th booster ??
Reply #24 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:56am
 
Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:50am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:43am:
The story has this problem in it:

that when much of a population has been vaccinated,

“most infections and deaths are expected to be among those vaccinated”



Well, yes. Of course.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1658995045/372#372

"It's just basic maths".

(Thanks, Greg).  Smiley


Such a basic concept that so many people seem unable to grasp.

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Reply #25 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 12:28pm
 
Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:52am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:48am:
because it is simply not true that's why you keep repeating it. You lot just keep making it up as you go.


Please - just stop it! My sides are aching here.

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In case you have trouble reading the dictionary definition of a vaccine. No need for your fact checkers as this didn't come from bitchute.

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vaccine
/ˈvaksiːn,ˈvaksɪn/
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noun
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

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Reply #26 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 12:29pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:56am:
Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:50am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 10:43am:
The story has this problem in it:

that when much of a population has been vaccinated,

“most infections and deaths are expected to be among those vaccinated”



Well, yes. Of course.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1658995045/372#372

"It's just basic maths".

(Thanks, Greg).  Smiley


Such a basic concept that so many people seem unable to grasp.



The concept is quite simple and you don't have a vaccine. Wink

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/ˈvaksiːn,ˈvaksɪn/
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noun
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.



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Re: Are you ready for your 5th booster ??
Reply #27 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 12:36pm
 
Dan sums things up nicely.

https://twitter.com/dj1au/status/1589531172010614784

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It never ceases to amaze me how anti-vaxxers constantly say they refuse to take a vaccine with no long-term studies but are happy to take their chances with a novel virus with unknown long-term effects.


Yes indeed.
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Reply #28 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 12:41pm
 
Carl D wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 12:36pm:
Dan sums things up nicely.

https://twitter.com/dj1au/status/1589531172010614784

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It never ceases to amaze me how anti-vaxxers constantly say they refuse to take a vaccine with no long-term studies but are happy to take their chances with a novel virus with unknown long-term effects.


Yes indeed.


But it is not a vaccine according to the definition of the word.

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/ˈvaksiːn,ˈvaksɪn/
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a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

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Reply #29 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 12:47pm
 
Who cares about definitions?

The important thing is that these vaccines (and, yes - I will still call them that, thank you very much) were developed in a very short period of time and so far have saved millions of lives worldwide.

As for Australia, while 15,792 Covid deaths so far is still a terrible tragedy it would have been a lot worse without the vaccines - some say we could have had up to 50,000 deaths by now.
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