thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2022 at 10:09am:

The Chinese Communist Party's Politburo Standing Committee agree and refuse to have any opinions. Xi's tea cup reveals the will of Confucius who had no freedom and used inscribed goat bones which he tossed head-or-tails.

chimera wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2022 at 11:12am:


That's right. Xi is aiming for common prosperity, while maximising sustainable growth.

chimera wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2022 at 11:24am:


He's not, he has a goal of common prosperity.

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to achieve common prosperity, in contrast to the entrenched evasive generational poverty in the US.

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Wrong...and waffle.

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2022 at 10:24am:

Feel free to sell all you have and give it to the poor.

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2022 at 10:24am:

Yes the Philippines fishermen ruined by Chinese greed, the Vietnam oil-rig workers, the Himalayan herdsmen, the loan-shark victims in Sri Lanka. Bombing Taiwan is good for Taiwan.

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2022 at 10:24am:


As we were talking about China in this thread … that’s what my respond was …
If it’s about all countries you wish to discuss re: poverty etc.
Then yes… it exists in many places.
I’ve seen how poor the Fijians are… at that time unemployment was 25%
Bali is another country … depending so much on tourism… a friend we have over there struggling during lockdowns… my son’s mil and I sent money to help them.
My daughter and I we sponsor young children in poorer countries via Child fund for 3 decades now..
Plus we donate to save animals and certain environmental orgs.
Since you’re busy calling me a turd?
Wash your filthy mouth out. Lowering yourself to name calling does not strengthen your viewpoints.

Oh I’ve been to see family in USA and the majority of people in USA are doing okay… lots of nice cars, in fact a mammoth amount of cars!) ….freedom, unlike the poor Chinese with clagged out motor scooters held together with duct tape. Family of 3 riding one bike… and baby in arm with no safety harness.
Yep I can compare because I’ve seen both countries.
How much freedom do Americans have… exercising their right to bear arms? Are Chinese people allowed to do that?
In the USA they can have their own homes… not in China… except for wealthy tea, rice growers etc. the rest are on 70 year government lease in apartments.
And the amount of one and two story houses being destroyed to build high rise apartments in its place is astounding! How do you think the people that owned them feel? Like when the Beijing Olympics were to be held… farmers were forced out…dragged and whipped or went MIA so their farm houses could be pulled to build the Olympic stadium etc.

Besides …. This isn’t a pissing contest which country has more poor people …. We will all descend there with rising costs and interest rates … that’s the elites plan. I already see the struggles my adult kids and their gen are going through here in Oz.
You must be in that gen age group?

Yes I’m older and have been frugal all my life! No holidays… no new furniture… never a new car… bombs more like it…. Lucky hubby is a mechanic, blessings there.
We never went out to eat as it was expensive. No alcohol except for special occasions.
We had no wedding reception as it was an expense we could do without, and I made my own wedding dress.
So don’t you dare come at me as if we are some well to do lazy lugs that never worked hard and scrimped and saved and did without.
And if there are problems with certain poorer or homeless groups, as my friend is about to think of living in her car…. Apart from many of us generous donating Aussies that we are…. that’s right… it’s us mere peons… people helping people… while our grubberments help themselves and then drive our country into spiralling debt.
But we all know that is happening already… it’s getting worse… not better…

Sophia wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2022 at 11:58am:


Correct.

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The comfortable  RW are turds, for acquiescing in poverty wherever it occurs.  Like the RW radio announcers who insisted poverty cannot be eliminated. Turds.

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You acquiesce in poverty, and assuage your greed with charity which does nothing to eliminate the causes of systemic poverty; and you rave about democracy in HK, where some live in the streets and sleep in rented boxes the size of coffins.   

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Ah...that favoured majority, forget the near 50% living paycheck to paycheck or worse ….

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China now has the largest car market in the world, with NEVs the biggest share in the world.

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No, and China is MUCH safer to live in than the US.

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...where like in all the West, home ownership rates are falling. 

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a home lease is much better than homelessness or unaffordable rents.

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Sometimes the state needs to acquire private property in any nation, compensation is key.

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Indeed it's not, it's a contest between which system can eliminate poverty. 

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That's the current state of neoliberal economics in the West. China is reversing the 'housing as private investment' rent-seeking for personal greed.

"Houses are for living in", as Xi has recently re-affirmed.

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Good for you; but you have no knowledge of macroeconomics and the current economic orthodoxy responsible for entrenched poverty.   

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It's your ignorance of the egregious effects of  'democratic' neoliberal economics resulting in entrenched poverty which is reprehensible - poverty seen all around the world, and which the CCP is determined to overcome, to achieve common prosperity. 

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Unfortunately, you don't know anything about the causes; the greed-based private sector is the prime villain.