thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 21^st, 2022 at 2:44pm:

The CCP's PLA has no capacity to threaten any nation at all. The fake aircraft carrier it launched to great fanfare some months back gave the US military a good laugh.

The big-balls talk is cha bu duo for the Chinese in China.

Even the Chinese quietly mock CCP's fake military prowess.

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 21^st, 2022 at 2:58pm:

It's not up to the CCP to keep its cool. That's up to the US to decide.

If the CCP behaves itself as it returns China to third-world status in fact, all will be fine.

Otherwise, well... game over for the CCP.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 21^st, 2022 at 1:07pm:


I'm sure that both countries are keenly aware of each others military capabilities. China has 350 Nukes. If it is losing in a conventional war, it will eventually use its Nukes. Whether it is Russia, China, or N. Korea, these countries will use every weapon they have to protect themselves. And, of course the US will respond with every weapon it has. Do you think that Hitler would not have used Nukes, if he had any? We are just mutually assuring our own destruction.

Remember, the People's Republic of China signed a vow of non-interference, in Taiwan's internal affairs. And, would  respect Taiwan's sovereignty and territorial integrity. This was the  primary condition for normalizing China's relations with the United States in 1972. But also, that both countries would accept that Taiwan was a part of China.

But as usual, the US has repeatedly broken its promises by grossly interfering in Hong Kong, Tibet, Xinjiang, and now Taiwan. So, why is the US deliberately provoking China? They were warned that Pelosi was not to set foot on Taiwanese soil.

Are they trying to show the world that they are not afraid of any nuclear arms country? That they can do anything, or go anywhere in the world they want? Now the US has the N. Korean missile testing in its sights. Claiming that their testing is a threat to the world. Because Japan and S. Korea feel threatened.

The US is not the moral or the policeman of the world. What it approves or disapproves of is totally irrelevant. It's national sovereignty does not extend beyond its borders.

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 21^st, 2022 at 3:20pm:

Until you understand cha bu duo, you're not going to understand that the Chinese people are well aware of the pigsty the country's in.

The CCP is on target to be ended. The problem for the US is not that it can't easily be achieved, but that it would be achieved too quickly for the Asian continent to manage the power vacuum.

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 21^st, 2022 at 3:27pm:

Gawd, where to start!

The sudden collapse of the CCP

1. The Chinese people will turn on CCP officials who robbed, raped, and murdered them. There will be slaughter as those victims seek revenge.

2. The Chinese superstate would be wracked by violent independence movements firstly in Hong Kong, Tibet, East Turkestan and Inner Mongolia.

3. Southern China may seek separation from the north. They even speak a separate language in the south.

4. All the 'stans will be destabilised, threatening Chinese territory as CCP influence collapses.

5. South East Asian nations will be wracked by internal wars as CCP influence collapses in those aligned to the CCP.

There's 5 things that would happen within a year.

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 21^st, 2022 at 3:56pm:

you need to talk to people who have lived in China and can trust you; and don't say you have. Your ignorance of Chinese culture and Asia is through the roof.

The resentment the ordinary Chinese bear against CCP officials is extreme, which is why the CCP hires organised crime gang members to help 'police' the local populace.

The southern Chinese treat northerners with complete contempt; there'd be no love lost between them.

East Turkestan, Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyztan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan are all Muslim countries - anything there, you think, that might cause militants, including those from west Asia, to 'seize the day'?

Destabilisation of this kind is greater than that of 1939.

Tap wrote on Oct 21^st, 2022 at 3:23pm:



Cool or what?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 21^st, 2022 at 4:08pm:


No I don't, I need to expose your "law of the jungle"/ "individual freedom" ideological filth for what it is.

People are well aware the US, paranoid and determined to maintain US global  hegemony, is forcing the world back to the Cold War days, dividing the world into two...at a time of impending climate and ecological catastrophe. Cheered on by human "freedom"/'law of the jungle' garbage like you.   

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Harvard poll a few years back shows support for central CCP government c. 95%.

Cf current hearings into the US Captitol riots hearings exposing massive political division in the US.

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large minorities in Repub states want to secede from the US.

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China (like Israel)  is making friends with Muslim states in the ME.

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The political instability in the US has no parallel since the civil war.