Melanias purse wrote on Apr 20
th, 2025 at 2:33pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 19
th, 2025 at 6:09pm:
chimera wrote on Apr 19
th, 2025 at 5:48pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 19
th, 2025 at 5:38pm:
the CCP was determined to avoid the fate of the USSR, learnt its lesson from the TS protests, and "opened up" the economy,
Indeed, TS had the statue of liberty lady holding a welding torch. This led to liberty welding for freedom welders for free welding, the torch of welds and profits of double talk welding.
And you accused me of writing non-English non-sense......oh dear....
Plainly, the CCP changed economic policy as a result of the TS protests, initiating the "Chinese miracle".
Now the Chinese government enjoys the support of the vast majority of Chinese people, while the democracies are imploding.
Well, they would say that,
wouldn't they?Polsters take names. If they're anonymous, the IP address is recorded. In China, all Internet use is monitored. Physical movements are monitored by street cameras. Financial transactions are monitored through payment data.
I'm sorry, dear, there's simply no way out. They record your Internet use, your movements and your consumption. There's a big computer in Beijing with all your data in it, name and number. Your government probably knows what you're thinking and feeling before you do.
From this Harvard-associated poll conducted in China:
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-...“We thought it would be helpful to know how satisfied citizens were with different levels of government, and in particular how satisfied they were with different kinds of government services,” said Saich.
The work began in 2003, and together with a leading private research and polling company in China, the team developed a series of questionnaires for in-person interviews. The surveys were conducted in eight waves from 2003 through 2016, and captured opinion data from 32,000 individual respondents.
“There’s nothing comparable done on this scale, over such a long period of time, and over a large geographic area,” said Jesse Turiel, a China public policy postdoctoral fellow and co-author who worked closely with Saich and Cunningham on the project’s analysis and subsequent publications."
The survey team found that compared to public opinion patterns in the U.S., in China there was very high satisfaction with the central government. In 2016, the last year the survey was conducted, 95.5 percent of respondents were either “relatively satisfied” or “highly satisfied” with Beijing. In contrast to these findings, Gallup reported in January of this year that their latest polling on U.S. citizen satisfaction with the American federal government revealed only 38% Quote:If anyone answered negatively in one of those surveys, it could have a serious impact on their employment, their study options, even their permission to move or
travel.
You know this. You're probably posting here in an attempt to favour the government in some way yourself, but do you know?
No, I've an open mind on different forms of government; I know the CCP has eradicated absolute poverty at the fastest rate in history during the last 4 decades, aka the 'Chinese miracle', acknowledged by the World Bank which measure global statistics on global poverty.
Quote:We don't want this here. Overly-controlling governments seriously freak us out. You may have observed the damage to democracy caused by a simple emergency lockdown. Conspiracy freaks, fake news and a shift in public opinion that saw democratic governments turfed out globally.
The CCP was faced with managing the pandemic for a huge population, with still existing poor medical standards in the rural hinterlands. Vic. too employed its own methods, hated by sovereign citizen ideologues. Who wa right? The death toll in many countries was alarming.
Quote:There must have been a similar backlash in China - your lockdowns were far more restrictive.
Not mine; do you think an Australian can't despise the West's "freedom values" ideology, for the war and poverty it entrenches around the world?
Quote: If you think people are fine with having the gates to their apartment blocks welded shut, you mustn't have learned anything from a discussion board where people can say what they think.
Like I said above, the stakes were much higher regarding transmission of the virus in vast populations with lower medical standards/ capacities than Oz.
Quote:Sure, Chinese citizens may tick all the right boxes in an opinion poll, but if you think they're not feeling dissatisfied, you've been farmed.
Ever get the feeling?
Don't answer that.
Already did, above.
“We tend to forget that for many in China, and in their lived experience of the past four decades, each day was better than the (previous).”
Tony Saich, Daewoo Professor of International Affairs and director of the Ash Center
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